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CovfefeNegro 2 points ago +2 / -0

Snowden is a traitor.

Huh, map lists him as traitor but when you link it the link changes to someone else.

I suppose that all could be a very deep deep operation to trigger certain events but that is a stretch.

He never initiated the whistleblower regimen, he acted outside it all, treason/espionage.

Same as Ciaramella.

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Lurker32 [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

Some would say that, but he also exposed the depths of spying that was taking place !

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CovfefeNegro 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not really, we knew that all along. When I was a kid dodging riots in my high school caused by Federal busing, we would mention in our phone calls even back then something like 'Fook J.Edgar', or 'not really J.Edgar just teasing'.

Because spying you see, back then we had 'party' lines so even neighbors heard you, you didn't know who was listening but knew they were.

No he's a straight up traitor, his motives were not to be a whistleblower, that was just gonna be his cover.

Are you going to claim you did not know the government/bad actors were spying on you, hacking you?