They are trying to avoid civil war. The longer this takes, the more people wake up, especially as each battle gets worse and worse. At this point, people aren't being slapped awake, they're being punched. As more and more people awaken, the Marxist base gets smaller and smaller. By the time public, legal accusations of treason, sedition and mass murder (9/11, anyone?) are made, there won't be enough of the damned Communists left to disrupt a small town, let alone start a continent-wide civil war.
But, by all means, let's do it your way and get masses of people killed. You can drink beer and watch, I suppose?
It's the first I've heard of outside groups being investigated as well, not just our own departments. It's not just more "tick tock", which is a euphemism for time... which means patience.
Which is exactly what people who think something will happen want to hear. Keep dragging them along so they don’t face reality. How about an arrest? Nope, not even one!
–] Supernova (1 point) 15 days ago
This isn’t reddit, there are no snowflakes here!
I looked at your comment history so I would know who you are. You should have looked at mine before immediately turning to cliches. I’ll say it gently for you because we’re both ‘pedes in the same fight. We will not see justice in the fashion we would like. It’s not an easy pill to swallow, but time and objectivity is not in our side. If you’d like to have a debate on the matter, I implore you to raise facts and evidence of why you believe Barr, who already let Strzok and Comey off the hook, is going to help us this time. He’s old school CIA for cryin’ out loud.
I’m pressed for time so this is all you get for now. Going after Strzok and Comey for leaks was a loser before it started, especially in the case of Comey because he’d just say what he leaked wasn’t classified at the time he leaked it which is true. You aren’t seeing the “justice” you want right this second because you are not looking at this strategically. We can’t know the real strategy because we can’t see all the cards. What we can do is speculate on the strategy based on what we know, if you aren’t already then start watching Bongino’s podcast and start with last Monday’s episode and watch them all through today’s. We know that Durham has uncovered absolutely devastating evidence and most likely ensnares current Democrats. When would be the most optimal time to release all of this information and issue indictments? The day after the house unconstitutionally impeached the President or at the height of the Presidential race?
To rebut, both of us are arguing that we don’t know all the information which means we only have conjecture. To use your word, speculation, means we can only make an educated guess otherwise known as an hypothesis. To do this well means addressing the facts as we’ve seen them. Thus far there has been plenty of low level actors hemmed up and prosecuted in a timely manner including Flynn, Manafort and Papadopoulos. At the same time we have seen upper tier actors skate from justice, namely, Clinton, Ohr, Page, Comey, Strzok and Awan’s. This is the evidence I’m using to create my hypothesis that the swamp is protecting itself within a two tiered justice system. Furthermore, the crimes and abuses have been exposed and noted by our IG and AG, but both have used the word intent to dismiss them as something not worth taking to task. This is why Session turned the case over to the IG. He knew the IG has no prosecutorial powers and would be able to run out a lot of the clock in the process of creating a report. In 3 years we haven’t seen one single arrest which would allow me to hang my hat on justice coming for anyone within the swamp. Now we have Barr, a former CIA agent responsible for pardoning 5 criminals from the Iran Contra fiasco and are hoping he has our best interests at heart. Be aware, the timetable he has given can in no way be enforced by Trump. Summer could turn to Fall and then Winter. President Trump has just 12 months guaranteed in his term and he will be campaigning full speed while continuing his tireless work all awhile having to defend himself. He doesn’t need justice to come at a specific time in order to produce maximum impact. These are the facts I’m using to base my opinion. The swamp is running out the clock to protect its own. I’m not going to touch on Bongino or any other on-screen personality, even though he doesn’t rub me wrong. That being said, I hope that these men are forced to bring someone to justice, but it doesn’t seem to be in the cards. My final point is a question for you. What’s the date? What date has to pass before you are no longer able to say patience and timing were correct assumptions for your position?
This thread takes all of, what 10 minutes at most to read. I am not a lawyer. With that said, how in the hell does it take 8+ months to file perjury charges against Brennan?
Seems pretty cut and dried to me.
Brennan testified in front of Congress he had no knowledge of the Steeler Dossier in 2017. Next, according to Gowdy, there are emails from Brennan to Gowdy requesting to use the crown materials (Steele Dossier) in the FBI intelligence assessment.
This is perjury. Why is Brennan not yet facing perjury charges? The only answers that pass the smell test are 1) They are working on it, along with a host of other shit Durham is investigating, and it takes time, or 2) Barr and Durham are talking a tough game, but in reality white washing the crimes.
We'll find out the answer soon enough. In my mind, if we don't see some indictments within 1 year of Durham taking this job, that's a big red flag. The Mueller team was shredding through Trump's organization for far less offenses in (what seemed to me) no time at all.
There’s an old saying, the gift of patience is patience. Unfortunately for us, we have been able to use reasonability and patience to lull us into thinking anyone inside the swamp will help Trump and the American people. Being patient beyond reasonability won’t bring arrests, but only more patience.
I can follow your thinking, but if 1776 ensues it starts with Balkanization not bullets. We tell the coastal progressive strongholds that their politics no longer govern the fly over states. Our tax dollars are withheld and their influence drops to nothing. Next is a full tax revolt where the populace stops paying for the governments ability to overthrow the people. The military will side with the Republic. Police and the NG will not turn on the people. Then we deport as many illegals there are within the new boundary and then deport some more.
I hear you, but understand Trump has no ability to hold Barr to any timeline. It will be dragged out as long as possible. There’s no need for justice to help Trump as he will win with campaigning and his record so expecting the wheels to turn faster isn’t an issue with me. We haven’t seen even one arrest of higher ups and that suggests we won’t see any in Trump’s guaranteed term.
Good. I hope he takes all of them Down.
This is the real show. Impeachment is a wake up call and distraction.
All the negging comes out when one of our allies does something worthwhile. Odd pattern, that.
So scapegoating. The FBI could never do anything intentionally wrong, if anything happened it was inadvertent and can be fixed with a process review.
Get them Barr, you ballsy motherfucker. Goddamned right it was illicit spying.
They are trying to avoid civil war. The longer this takes, the more people wake up, especially as each battle gets worse and worse. At this point, people aren't being slapped awake, they're being punched. As more and more people awaken, the Marxist base gets smaller and smaller. By the time public, legal accusations of treason, sedition and mass murder (9/11, anyone?) are made, there won't be enough of the damned Communists left to disrupt a small town, let alone start a continent-wide civil war.
But, by all means, let's do it your way and get masses of people killed. You can drink beer and watch, I suppose?
It's the first I've heard of outside groups being investigated as well, not just our own departments. It's not just more "tick tock", which is a euphemism for time... which means patience.
I don't think Barr is a "tick-tock" type of guy!
"If it doesn't happen according to MY time table, it won't happen at all!"
"Private Actors" like F'n L'l dick 'Robert De Niro' ??!! KEK
BUT..not one indictment yet.. It's too bad Barr isnt running on Deep State speed..
If looks could kill.
Which is exactly what people who think something will happen want to hear. Keep dragging them along so they don’t face reality. How about an arrest? Nope, not even one!
Get out of here you low IQ shill. Real investigations take time. Contrary to your employer's beliefs this is still a Reupublic and not a police state.
–] Supernova (1 point) 15 days ago This isn’t reddit, there are no snowflakes here!
I looked at your comment history so I would know who you are. You should have looked at mine before immediately turning to cliches. I’ll say it gently for you because we’re both ‘pedes in the same fight. We will not see justice in the fashion we would like. It’s not an easy pill to swallow, but time and objectivity is not in our side. If you’d like to have a debate on the matter, I implore you to raise facts and evidence of why you believe Barr, who already let Strzok and Comey off the hook, is going to help us this time. He’s old school CIA for cryin’ out loud.
I’m pressed for time so this is all you get for now. Going after Strzok and Comey for leaks was a loser before it started, especially in the case of Comey because he’d just say what he leaked wasn’t classified at the time he leaked it which is true. You aren’t seeing the “justice” you want right this second because you are not looking at this strategically. We can’t know the real strategy because we can’t see all the cards. What we can do is speculate on the strategy based on what we know, if you aren’t already then start watching Bongino’s podcast and start with last Monday’s episode and watch them all through today’s. We know that Durham has uncovered absolutely devastating evidence and most likely ensnares current Democrats. When would be the most optimal time to release all of this information and issue indictments? The day after the house unconstitutionally impeached the President or at the height of the Presidential race?
To rebut, both of us are arguing that we don’t know all the information which means we only have conjecture. To use your word, speculation, means we can only make an educated guess otherwise known as an hypothesis. To do this well means addressing the facts as we’ve seen them. Thus far there has been plenty of low level actors hemmed up and prosecuted in a timely manner including Flynn, Manafort and Papadopoulos. At the same time we have seen upper tier actors skate from justice, namely, Clinton, Ohr, Page, Comey, Strzok and Awan’s. This is the evidence I’m using to create my hypothesis that the swamp is protecting itself within a two tiered justice system. Furthermore, the crimes and abuses have been exposed and noted by our IG and AG, but both have used the word intent to dismiss them as something not worth taking to task. This is why Session turned the case over to the IG. He knew the IG has no prosecutorial powers and would be able to run out a lot of the clock in the process of creating a report. In 3 years we haven’t seen one single arrest which would allow me to hang my hat on justice coming for anyone within the swamp. Now we have Barr, a former CIA agent responsible for pardoning 5 criminals from the Iran Contra fiasco and are hoping he has our best interests at heart. Be aware, the timetable he has given can in no way be enforced by Trump. Summer could turn to Fall and then Winter. President Trump has just 12 months guaranteed in his term and he will be campaigning full speed while continuing his tireless work all awhile having to defend himself. He doesn’t need justice to come at a specific time in order to produce maximum impact. These are the facts I’m using to base my opinion. The swamp is running out the clock to protect its own. I’m not going to touch on Bongino or any other on-screen personality, even though he doesn’t rub me wrong. That being said, I hope that these men are forced to bring someone to justice, but it doesn’t seem to be in the cards. My final point is a question for you. What’s the date? What date has to pass before you are no longer able to say patience and timing were correct assumptions for your position?
This is unquestionably a good post. Read this Twitter thread on Brennan and perjury charges he should be facing: https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1207847825792536576
This thread takes all of, what 10 minutes at most to read. I am not a lawyer. With that said, how in the hell does it take 8+ months to file perjury charges against Brennan? Seems pretty cut and dried to me. Brennan testified in front of Congress he had no knowledge of the Steeler Dossier in 2017. Next, according to Gowdy, there are emails from Brennan to Gowdy requesting to use the crown materials (Steele Dossier) in the FBI intelligence assessment.
This is perjury. Why is Brennan not yet facing perjury charges? The only answers that pass the smell test are 1) They are working on it, along with a host of other shit Durham is investigating, and it takes time, or 2) Barr and Durham are talking a tough game, but in reality white washing the crimes.
We'll find out the answer soon enough. In my mind, if we don't see some indictments within 1 year of Durham taking this job, that's a big red flag. The Mueller team was shredding through Trump's organization for far less offenses in (what seemed to me) no time at all.
There’s an old saying, the gift of patience is patience. Unfortunately for us, we have been able to use reasonability and patience to lull us into thinking anyone inside the swamp will help Trump and the American people. Being patient beyond reasonability won’t bring arrests, but only more patience.
I can follow your thinking, but if 1776 ensues it starts with Balkanization not bullets. We tell the coastal progressive strongholds that their politics no longer govern the fly over states. Our tax dollars are withheld and their influence drops to nothing. Next is a full tax revolt where the populace stops paying for the governments ability to overthrow the people. The military will side with the Republic. Police and the NG will not turn on the people. Then we deport as many illegals there are within the new boundary and then deport some more.
I hear you, but understand Trump has no ability to hold Barr to any timeline. It will be dragged out as long as possible. There’s no need for justice to help Trump as he will win with campaigning and his record so expecting the wheels to turn faster isn’t an issue with me. We haven’t seen even one arrest of higher ups and that suggests we won’t see any in Trump’s guaranteed term.