I have a friend who is a retired army lieutenant colonel asked why I needed an AR15 and what would an AR15 do against his military and their equipment. My response to him was "who's going to be driving and flying that equipment when 80+% of the military is on my side"? He looked at me like he never even considered that option.
Hmm! I may be wrong, some one check for me, but did we not use tanks at Waco, or some such place? And I recall tanks being used during the Anti War Protests of the 1960's Nothing got united.
We never even needed boots on the ground to win any war in the middle east, but we follow some bullshit rules of engagement coupled with 'hearts and minds' campaigns that it hamstrings our full war footing potential.
Smartest, quickest, cheapest, safest way for our troops is: to totally demolish the enemy with no concern whatsoever for "collateral damage" or any of that bullshit. You show the enemy that you are crazy, you mean business, and all niceties and caring and humanity and love for the innocent are safely hidden away under lock and key right now.
If they think you CARE, they will be emboldened and take advantage. Once they know you don't give a fuck and will wantonly erase them with fire, once you show them unambiguously who is boss, that's when they get scared and start listening to the boss.
Then, once unconditional surrender is achieved among those still living (say, in about two weeks), we use a tiny fraction of the money we would have spent on playing footsie for 20 years to rebuild them a little and help them see the light of not fucking with us ever again, or they'll get fucking annihilated again.
NEVER ENGAGE IN A FAIR FIGHT.
INSTEAD GO IN WITH OVERWHELMING, TOTALLY UNFAIR ADVANTAGE, AND USE IT TO COMPLETELY MELT THE ENEMY AND THEIR HARDWARE AND INFRASTRUCTURE, AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. JUST OBLITERATE AND GET THE FUCK OUT.
Yup. I'm all for dropping absurd amounts of leaflets informing the population of EXACTLY what is going to happen if they do not redress their government.
When they don't, start vaporizing one city per week and dropping more leaflets on the next cities telling them of what's happening and which city was just vaporized. It won't take long till their military realizes if they don't turn on their government then all their loved ones are next.
When they realize they will be vaporized and there is literally nothing they can do about it to save their lives and the lives of their loved ones other then turn on their government it turns into a great motivator to turn on their government.
It would cost far fewer lives overall to vaporize a medium city or two then to start a long drawn out ground war that's going to see those cities shelled into husks with mass deaths anyway. At least being vaporized by a nuke is far faster a death then being firebombed and burning to death or starved to death.
If the military is forced into using armoured vehicles, the battle's already lost. Guns and stuff are meant to force the establishments' hand into a lose/lose. Even if the military is called in, it's a Pyrrhic victory at best. Either the people get their victory, or all isburnt until all there's left to claim is a kingdom of ash.
Former army, I have envisioned exactly how the conversation would go with my first line leaders. Mostly, a lot of us like minded people giving each other the “fuck this shit” look, then a private conversation on how to make “fuck this shit” a reality.
Problem is, not everyone thinks like us and order would break down quick
I have a friend who is a retired army lieutenant colonel asked why I needed an AR15 and what would an AR15 do against his military and their equipment. My response to him was "who's going to be driving and flying that equipment when 80+% of the military is on my side"? He looked at me like he never even considered that option.
I would also point out that no American on either side is going to stand for an AMERICAN Abrams tank just strolling down an American street.
You wanna unite the country do some stupid thing like try to use the armed forces on American soil.
Hmm! I may be wrong, some one check for me, but did we not use tanks at Waco, or some such place? And I recall tanks being used during the Anti War Protests of the 1960's Nothing got united.
Tanks vs. Killdozers would be pretty fun to watch tho
The 'fighting' is not mean to win, its meant to increase business for the military suppliers.
Lol yeah that was one of my points as well
We never even needed boots on the ground to win any war in the middle east, but we follow some bullshit rules of engagement coupled with 'hearts and minds' campaigns that it hamstrings our full war footing potential.
No shit.
Smartest, quickest, cheapest, safest way for our troops is: to totally demolish the enemy with no concern whatsoever for "collateral damage" or any of that bullshit. You show the enemy that you are crazy, you mean business, and all niceties and caring and humanity and love for the innocent are safely hidden away under lock and key right now.
If they think you CARE, they will be emboldened and take advantage. Once they know you don't give a fuck and will wantonly erase them with fire, once you show them unambiguously who is boss, that's when they get scared and start listening to the boss.
Then, once unconditional surrender is achieved among those still living (say, in about two weeks), we use a tiny fraction of the money we would have spent on playing footsie for 20 years to rebuild them a little and help them see the light of not fucking with us ever again, or they'll get fucking annihilated again.
NEVER ENGAGE IN A FAIR FIGHT.
INSTEAD GO IN WITH OVERWHELMING, TOTALLY UNFAIR ADVANTAGE, AND USE IT TO COMPLETELY MELT THE ENEMY AND THEIR HARDWARE AND INFRASTRUCTURE, AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. JUST OBLITERATE AND GET THE FUCK OUT.
Yup. I'm all for dropping absurd amounts of leaflets informing the population of EXACTLY what is going to happen if they do not redress their government.
When they don't, start vaporizing one city per week and dropping more leaflets on the next cities telling them of what's happening and which city was just vaporized. It won't take long till their military realizes if they don't turn on their government then all their loved ones are next.
When they realize they will be vaporized and there is literally nothing they can do about it to save their lives and the lives of their loved ones other then turn on their government it turns into a great motivator to turn on their government.
It would cost far fewer lives overall to vaporize a medium city or two then to start a long drawn out ground war that's going to see those cities shelled into husks with mass deaths anyway. At least being vaporized by a nuke is far faster a death then being firebombed and burning to death or starved to death.
Carpet bombing diplomacy
And a war we could win, IF we had the political leadership. "Nuke them all, Let God sort them out" That worked for Japan circa 1945
Japan was well on it's way to losing even before the bombs were dropped. We burnt Tokyo to the ground with simple incendiary munitions.
Helps that Trump just gave them all raises! They know who butters the bread!
No question
He knows very well what it is. He's probably been fighting AKs in Iraq and Afghanistan for 20 years
If the military is forced into using armoured vehicles, the battle's already lost. Guns and stuff are meant to force the establishments' hand into a lose/lose. Even if the military is called in, it's a Pyrrhic victory at best. Either the people get their victory, or all isburnt until all there's left to claim is a kingdom of ash.
LIke that's a bad thing :)
Exactly.
Former army, I have envisioned exactly how the conversation would go with my first line leaders. Mostly, a lot of us like minded people giving each other the “fuck this shit” look, then a private conversation on how to make “fuck this shit” a reality.
Problem is, not everyone thinks like us and order would break down quick