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Pepehands 7 points ago +7 / -0

False. A nation of pioneers and skilled settlers. Useless immigrant leeches are completely different.

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OGpsywar 3 points ago +3 / -0

No, they were right. With respects to your family, Grumman, and the moon, the United States wasn't built in the 1960s. (I was going to write the following already, it's not aimed at you .. just uncannily germane to the point)

The linked article needed just one more increase in granularity.. to add Pioneers.

  1. PIONEERS
  2. SETTLERS
  3. IMMIGRANTS

Pioneers are the element who carve and lay the foundations. They arrive to nothing, start with that, and succeed anyway.

Settlers come a bit later and help to flesh out the nascent systems.

Immigrants come even later, still - to either help or harm. Typically they come based upon the acclaimed success created before they had even had a thought about Nation X. That is, the desirable things there were Already Forged.

If a place has (in escalation) settlements, peace agreements, townships, farms, systems of laws, trails, roads, navies, armies, railways, cities, malls, flags on other planets, internet, etc etc, whenever someone arrives -- guess what? The immigrants built (Built) increments of two things: fvcking jack, and fvcking squat.

The USA isn't a "nation of immigrants", there are Hundreds of those and most are third-world shitholes .. not the Shining City on the Hill. The USA is a nation of cold-climate Protestant Whites with Giant Brass Balls and a drive to Not Be Ruled, set up by Genius Founders the likes of which the Earth has known no second time.

It's a Unique formula for success, not in even one erg due to every shoeless piece of flotsam barging in late and delusionally thinking they have some 'equal say'. If Your ways worked .. your Own nations wouldn't be shitholes, and you Wouldn't be trying to Come Here in the First Place.

If anyone goes to another nation and it already has air conditioning and space stations, .. they are Not equal in 'its creation'.

They're unpronounceable foreign name-come latelys, essentially just Glom-Ons, here to suck the teats of greatness, and God bless us if they're capable at all of not, Each, being a net-parasite making the place worse

The US's legal immigration levels are 1 Million per year. 5x higher than all reason and the largest in all the world. It's never been proven that a nation can survive such a thing. And then there's another 1 Million per year of illegal aliens.

When Any 'immigrant' helps the US, it isn't 'the norm', .. it's a Miracle. Thank You! But the other (since, say 1988) 62 Million immigrant and aliens aren't doing that. And increasingly they're being Pumped in here as unwashed armies, displaced by America's enemies, trained to hate the American system by America's enemies, and then aimed square at our cultural and fiscal solvencies like a gun.

Ugh, I can't rant in this tiny box. Merry Christmas ??????

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ProudAmerican 1 point ago +1 / -0

It’s not the state of ones immigration that makes the difference. The numbers of immigrants wasn’t high enough to have built this country by themselves. That’s the basis for saying America was not built by immigrants. They helped, yes, but the colonization wasn’t because of them.