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Hail_wuzzle 11 points ago +13 / -2

This is sad. You can be a healthy vegan though but it is much more complicated and requires a good understanding of what your body needs and what food is and how it works in metabolism, perhaps regular checkups at the dr.

It's always sad to hear about these idiots killing their kids because they read a pinterest article and now think they an expert nutritionist and dietitian. Veganism is hard, inconvenient, and inefficient, also requires tons of planning. Imagine the counter where you feed a kid only pork.. that kid is going to be malnourished and die because your body needs a ton of things and you have to try hard to get them in plants, you can you can't just say "this is a plant, so it is all I need" no more than you can say "this is wheat bread and all I need" or "this is a steak and all I need".

These people should be arrested.

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stoic_troll 9 points ago +9 / -0

No, not in the long run you can't. Vegetarianism is a bit different because you can get a lot of the nutritional value of meat from butter, eggs, milk and cheese. There are essential nutrients like B12 and K2-MK4 that are ONLY found in meat. Depending on your genetics, you may not be able to process beta carotene AT ALL, which is the only vegan version of Vitamin A. It's also well documented that vegan foods are low in iron and calcium, which are absolutely essential for bone density and healthy blood. Finally, the DHA Omega-3 fatty acids are only found in meat and are essential for brain health. As an adult you can live on a vegan diet but you will suffer deficiencies in the long run as your fat stores run out of vitamins to supplement your terrible diet with. This can come in the form of anxiety, anemia, brain fog, bone density loss, etc. There is nothing healthy about veganism. It is a starvation diet and like fasting, if done for too long it just becomes anorexia. Your genetic mileage may vary, but the healthiest diet for humans is a more ketogenic one with plenty of fats and low carbs.

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Hail_wuzzle -1 points ago +3 / -4

I think marijuana, as well as nuts, seeds and algae contain omega 3s. Look at a breakdown of what is in spirulina for example. The reason meat contains so many of the things we need though is because they eat the plants that contain them. Also vegetables when not cleaned of soil (cows dont wash their veggies) they consume the bacteria that you need which is one of the things whole foods (store not diet) vegans need supplements.

Anyway, I'm not a dietitian nor a vegan but I think humanity eventually goes this route to support the population due to the space it take to have cattle vs plants in say vertical gardens or on spaceships. That or lab meat, you can't have tons of food to feed the output of hundreds of lbs of meat in a confined space, the numbers dont really work.

I'd say to check out the things the world health organization says referencing the Marshall islands (dr brenda davis) and the long term study on the standard American diet vs plant based (dr esselstyn) or China study (dr campbell).

Theres probably something also to the 100+ yrs old on that board (world health org) that are vegans/vegetarians and are experts in this field and look like they are 60. Idk, I like burgers and tried vegan for a bit before quitting bc I can't carry pounds of veggies around and literally eat all day to get the calories I need, maybe if i like the act of eating more i could or cared about living as long as possible.