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ConservativeCrusader 5 points ago +7 / -2

We cannot and will not start this fight. If we pull the trigger first, optics go against us. If things are to get heated, the leftists will have to start it by trying to take our guns by force. We hope it doesn't come to that point, but Virginia is looking stupid enough to try.

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Bluestorm83 7 points ago +7 / -0

They could gun down thousands of us, and the story will be buried. The day one Conservative shoots a man trying to rape his daughter, they'll spin that into "Right Wing Extremist executes visitor to home for breaking one house rule!" and that's that.

I'm not saying that we should start any fight. I'm just saying that we could LITERALLY be making our last stand in a mass grave full of the family members they already murdered, and they will revise history as it happens to suit their narrative. It's what they do.

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ConservativeCrusader 3 points ago +4 / -1

Certainly true, but we are able to slightly overpass the fake news. Any sign that we were the aggressors and even those avenues close off. It's better to wait for the moment we are attacked to strike back and try to spread the word despite resistance from the Left over striking first and not being able to defend our position as easily. They attacked us is an easier argument than we thought they were going to attack us. Any control on optics we can get will be vital should/when the time for arms arrives since it'll help our cause gain support in the short/long term. In the meantime, we need to strengthen our means of getting the word out as much as humanly possible.

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Yawnz13 0 points ago +4 / -4

That's a mighty big stretch there. With everyone toting around a camera today, such a story wouldn't be "buried".

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BillionsAndBillions 6 points ago +7 / -1

They will dress someone up like us and have them shoot first. Have you seen the nuts on the left? Recruitment would be easy. It'll be "us" no matter what. The moment these tyrants vote these "laws" onto the books, they should be arrested. It would be the safest thing for all involved. This may get very ugly

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ConservativeCrusader 4 points ago +4 / -0

Also very true. That is a tactic the left seems to love, and I wouldn't put it past the leftists to sacrifice some of their own for victory. I agree that the laws that ban guns should lead to arresting the people who pass it. The moment these laws are passed, we should be ready for action, as they'll start coming after us. That is when shots are fired. A gun ban means that the government is coming for everyone's weapons and will take them without any consideration for innocents. Rather than start a conflict before those laws are passed, I suggest waiting until after. Beforehand, we need to focus on more organization. When the time comes, we need to be prepared. As you said, this may get very ugly.

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BillionsAndBillions 1 point ago +2 / -1

Exactly. Well said.

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Proud_Nationalist 2 points ago +2 / -0

That first shot is all they need to implement martial law. One of US will have to take one for the team, first.

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CQVFEFE 2 points ago +3 / -1

Yeah, just keep turning the other cheek

That's not what he said. He said:

We cannot and will not start this fight. If we pull the trigger first, optics go against us. If things are to get heated, the leftists will have to start it by trying to take our guns by force. We hope it doesn't come to that point,

Quit with the Fake News. We get enough of that already.

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CQVFEFE 0 points ago +1 / -1

LOL I quoted you directly; and then another person, showing that you had misquoted them. Then I called for an end to Fake News.

And that's something you think a liberal would do? Ha ha ha? You might be stupid.

I said might. Prove me wrong. Go.

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ConservativeCrusader 2 points ago +3 / -1

Not turning the other cheek, it's a matter of determining when to switch tactics. Optics can help turn the tide of war in terms of support just as much as victories and losses. Our current tactics should be getting as many people to understand the dangers of the deep state and establishing means of communicating our message, along with preparing for any physical conflict. If we can push back through nonviolent means first, it will do us well should the deep state do something more physical.

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Yawnz13 -1 points ago +3 / -4

So when are you gonna go make a citizen's arrest then? Please be sure to take a video while you're doing it, since everything apparently has to conform to your particular schedule.

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Yawnz13 0 points ago +4 / -4

Imaging being so ignorant as to think that's what "turn the other cheek" means. The point of that saying is to advise against turning minor offenses into major confrontations, i.e. shooting someone because he stepped on your new shoes.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/crime-and-courts/2019/12/30/police-man-shot-stepping-someones-shoes-suspect-large/2775274001/

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