Something's wrong. There's too much buzz going on around the internet about crisis actors, bussing in Antifa dressed in MAGA hats, bringing in sniper towers. The left has a plan to manage the Monday rally to their benefit. So you need to outfox and outmaneuver them. Change your plan!
I know some VA organizers, or people who can reach the organizers, must read here, so please do something like this:
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Cancel the rally, loudly and publicly, citing concerns about the threat to public safety from government use of force and Antifa. Get that narrative out there. Announce that anyone in Richmond on Monday does not represent you.
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Instead change to something else like simultaneous county-level rallies, another city, perhaps a different day. Move your key speakers there so it's clear that's where the rally is.
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Use your organizing structure to circulate private messages among your members and use that to do things like:
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Have everyone show up in jackets or suits. Everyone. Have members bring extras and set up fitting areas, get everyone suited up. It's hard to sell the message that a mob of people in dress clothes are a public threat.
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Enforce credentialing. Don't allow public attendance, just attendance of your members. Make out-of-state visitors show an NRA or other gun group membership to be permitted in, or pass a quick interview about gun culture, etc. Weed out plants.
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Decide on a credentialing symbol, like a specific flag sticker, and have everyone who has passed through credentialing given the prearranged symbol to wear.
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Live post to the internet to show your numbers on a wide variety of platforms.
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Do something to be countable. Have all attendees make a donation to something your opponents hate, like a gun group or (even better) Trump 2020, so the President can talk about how much money the VA dems raised for him and thus amplify your message. Try to get as many individual donations as possible, even if it's just for $1.
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Pass out lots of signs like "Hands off guns! Voting Republican in 2020" to connect the numbers to upcoming election results and tell VA leadership they are living on borrowed time and have to move carefully if they want to keep any power in the future.
Turn their plotting into an opportunity and suck the oxygen out of whatever nefarious scheme the left has cooked up.
Some other post thread up above just now and I agree:
President Trump should go to this rally and be the keynote speaker.
I like the spirit of it. But I don't think it's a good idea.
There are apparently a lot of people willing to go to Virginia and protest publicly for their rights. This is a good thing.
Northam is making a big deal out of this, call in the national guard etcetera. CNN in the press is going to be all over this.
This is a good thing.
We want massive massive crowds of Patriots on camera. They must be peaceful, they must be disciplined. Do not let them intimidate you into staying home, so that only left-wing activists and racist groups are the ones that show up on camera for this rally. We need lots and lots of normal Americans.
Bring lots of cameras, document everything, every bus that goes in and out take its license plates. Take video of the people going in and out, make sure that any false flaggers are traceable, so that 4chan can do their work.
Again be peaceful!
If the government guns down a bunch of peaceful protesters with snipers, it doesn't matter how CNN sells it. It will be the spark that blows up the left forever.
But again we must be peaceful. Don't go there dressed as Nazis and start firing at random soldiers. Don't let anyone in who is dressed as a Nazi or racist.
Remember the point is not to take over some Capitol building or some silly thing like that. This is a battle for the hearts and minds of 400 million people.
I pray for peace, that all America sees is a bunch of patriots who love their rights standing up for their rights, and for America to see that they are not alone.
But if violence does occur let the government be the one that starts it! And yes, this means taking copious footage to catch any potential false flaggers.
If violence does explode the press will make it look bad at first, which is why it's essential to get video out, and be ready to fight the information war afterwards. The organisers need to organize a systematic the surveillance of the entire protest. A complete picture must be available to document the events, you cannot rely on CNN Fox news or random citizens. Be disciplined be smart and God be with you!
May God watch over Virginia in the coming days.
Just you watch. If AntiFa initiates violence and innocent people die, you know how we’ll react. We’ve been waiting for these sons of bitches to go too far, and I think we’re about to see it. The President will feel great anguish, and a great righteous fury. We all will.
More than anything, we need cameras there. We need to capture anything and everything that may happen.
Antifa dresses like demons and acts like demons. What a contrast to see a bunch of godly men and women standing up for their rights, compared against them.
Just one video of an innocent, peaceful protester being gunned down by Northam and his thugs will cause a wave in this country.
Do not bring your guns, this will justify it. Be unarmed be peaceful, bring your cameras, and your faith in God.
And you were right to remember that the president of the United States is on our side. Let our side to be as gentle as lambs during this confrontation. That way Trump can come down hard in the wake of it.
Let's make the Democrats fear God again.
Remember the President can nationalize the National Guard. Pull the rug right out from under the guv.
http://www.americaslibrary.gov/aa/eisenhower/aa_eisenhower_littlerock_1.html
This is what should happen. It's legal for Trump to declare an emergency. He could even say that on MLK day, all demonstrators should be safe.
If Northam can fucking do it, Trump can do it.
This is the Comment to up vote. I am in VA. Nought another gun today, the store was PACKED and they are running out of stock. They have organized a bus and busses are filling fast. This is going to be a MASSIVE peaceful protest. Get there if you can.
remember the Tea Party crowds... that put the fear of God into the politicians looking over that sea of people. And then the powers that be come to crush it. Targeting from IRS being prominent. Hang tough. Be respectful. I like the "wear a suit" comment and might do that except its so damn cold. WWG1WGA
I love your positive outlook but be careful! The democrats are starting to get dangurerus and they don't care about your safety Pede...
I'm glad you people of VA are fighting back! Do you know the election for Ralph Northam was rigged right? You need to recall him ASAP! From what I hear there are petitions going around in Virgina...
Get these petitions signed and force that loser to step down!
https://www.americanpartisan.org/2020/01/richmond-the-mother-of-all-buffalo-jumps/
Ask the proud boys, especially the ones in jail, how well your idea worked.
Don't just bring lots of cameras, bring extra batteries.
I vote for OP's plan. It's better thought out, more positive, less violent.
The government set it up in Charlottesville and blamed it all on the conservatives. This is Terry McAuliffe 2.
I was gonna say all they need is a scared kid like Charlottesville. Then it's all the sudden a white supremacist gathering
Exactly. And this is Richmond FFS, not little ole' C'Ville.
Same here. This is obviously a divisive issue, and I'm a bit torn between sides. I even find myself upvoting both! But I was really impressed by a former SEAL's smart, well-thought warning against going.
https://www.americanpartisan.org/2020/01/richmond-the-mother-of-all-buffalo-jumps/
He's a guy of proven courage--but also smarts.
Edit: He also has good advice for those he knows are going anyway, similar to what people are proposing here, cameras, keeping your cool, scouting out the surroundings, rooftops, windows, etc.
I saw someone on American Thinker in the comments section suggest that the rally be called off, and do a GENERAL STRIKE instead. Stay home. Buy nothing, go nowhere.
This is the answer. One or two months of not buying, using, watching, and doing will put these companies who buy our laws and control us with structured narratives on full blast panic mode. Six months of continued effort will effectively put them all out of business. One year of it and we can wipe the current crop of behemoths out, and shut the invasive internet platforms down.
And after approximately 21 days, all the strikers will discover they have developed brand new habits and lifestyles, which is a very good thing for us as individuals, families, and as a nation! We'll wonder what the hell we ever bought, used or watched X for in the first place. Oh boy -- will THAT ever panic them! And it will help bring a spiritual/cultural revival! Seriously! We should do this!
You can do both.
Not working and consuming doesn't mean you have to sit down and shut up.
" . . . do a GENERAL STRIKE instead. Stay home. Buy nothing, go nowhere." IOW, have one of my typical days?
Most people and kids are off on Monday anyway.
Trump needs to stay out of Virginia. It is not safe for him to go, since the government became completely controlled by Socialist Democrats. It is lost for now.
Rooftops are a great vantage point...
I'd like to go to that tea party in the harbor tonight but I heard there might be trouble.
This.
Of course it's a trap. That is why we must go. The trap is triggering either way, the only difference is how our side presents ourselves.
Yeah, "calling it off" may as well mean "send in only a few gung-ho well armed people straight into a violent counter-protest." If you've ever held leadership outside of a chain of command, you'd know about the realities of herding cats.
thats the best argument i've heard so far that it might be better to go than not... If everybody suddenly doesnt go, then it will just be 500 of our craziest and angriest and most determined cats in a pen, defenseless, with 250 LEO's and 7 busloads of pantyfa, and a media army all trying to provoke them.
Or the organizers could move it a few miles down the road. ::taps forehead:: Tactics are a thing and there are other options than walking into the trap. Like walking around the trap.
https://virginiaconservatives.net/ may be the main organizers.
I was in touch with a worker by email who told me they were avoiding the secure area.
[email protected]
I follow American Joe (YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrUkx0UAxgybbbMvWphd62Q/featured His website: https://www.americanfreedomsupply.com/ He's posting videos - on the road now.
It's like talking to a wall, OP. You did your best.
Some people can't resist obliging when some a-hole picks a fight.
This ain’t 1773 my friends. Be wise. Our opponents are using different weapons, the internet and video are a whole different ball game. Propaganda goes out instantly and we don’t want to be set up for it.
But we ARE set up for it. That's the reality.
The only way to stymie the left wing extremists is to not walk into their trap.
Amen bro
Wait until Tuesday when CNN is crying buckets of crocodile tears about the violent thugs in MAGA caps like you who went to the rally and started all the trouble.
Reluctantly, I must agree. As much as I'd love to see a show of numbers in opposition to Adolf Northam's unconstitutional and illegal pronunciamentos, it's becoming clear that the loyal Americans who attend this rally will be walking into a trap. Don't fall for it, fellow patriots!
Adolf's Glazedham? For Easter dinner.
I’d like to go to downtown Hong Kong tonight to protest Chinese tyranny but I heard there might be trouble.
But here you are not protesting.
Think the post is making a sarcastic point. How people want to protest but are too scared to act against tyranny for fear of safety
It's too late at this stage to implement a perfectly crafted plan. So you abort the mission and come back when you do have a plan. You don't just let the enemy dictate the terms of engagement.
My respect for anyone trying to stand up against this bullshit in VA.
But man 75% of the people there are going to be government letter fags.
We know the FBI/CIA/ATF/etc. hate the right.
Be careful out there boys.
Or you can allow ANTIFA and the media to not hold you hostage.
Optics? Newsflash, the media hates you. They will not stop hating you because of a change in plans. They will spin it however they want.
Responding to the left is ceeding control to them. They want you to stand down. They always have and will.
EXACTLY!!!! They control all the optics. They will never perceive guns in a positive light.
God what bullshit. They want a war. They want bloodshed. And they want to pin it on naive patriots who showed up to wave their flags. If you stand down, they can't do that.
You remind me of Trudeau, "If you kill your enemies, they win."
Let's all just stand down, just like in Europe because if they protest against the Islamic invasion it'll make them look like racists! REEEE
GTFO!
Go get suited up then
Next thing you'll know they'll try to fabricate something to impeach the President.
Who the fuck cares? They will say what they want. So I don't. That's the nice thing about having nothing to lose. You have everything to gain.
No matter what, they will blame it on Trump.
if we abandon the plans or change venues that just ensures false flag with maximum casualties, and won't change the optics. as many patriots as possible.
as far as vetting: who watches the watchers? who validates? can actors play a role? false sense of security and provides validation that the shooter will be labeled as 'one of us.'
Both issues were already addressed in:
Point #1: You need to not be in the capitol and loudly have told the world in advance that you're not going to be. A false flag only works if they can connect it with you and if that's not where you are, it doesn't work. Suck the wind out of their sales. As many patriots as possible - but not where they're having their false flag.
Point #3: There already is an existing structure capable of vetting its own membership. There are organizers and those all belong to existing pro-gun groups which all have existing memberships lists. Turn the rallies into closed events. If you don't belong to at least pro-gun group, shame on you and no you can't attend.
I agree with your other points, but not these two.
1: watch me shift the narrative.
or just makes it easier to pass off a false flag with actors somewhere with no patriots to protect as legit.
3 - closed rally means less patriots. we need as many as possible. anyone can join nra just by donating. even if it could work, false flag will just move to perimeter. again, needs to be as many patriots in one place as possible, united against evil.
Your reply formatting is a big confusing. I'll do my best:
"last-minute change confusing people": Well, you have to be competent at organizing and that includes communicating (note my post is to the organizers, not the the general public). The easiest thing to do is loudly and publicly reschedule for another date, that disassociates the movement from any false flag.
"we need as many as possible" - no, you need as many non-plants as possible, a bit different. 1000 patriots plus 1 plant who can create bad media is much worse than 600 solid patriots. It's a media battle, imagery counts for a lot.
"as many patriots in one place as possible, united against evil." - Allow me to suggest that in 2020 we could be substitute "as many COUNTABLE patriots". If, for example, 1M people make coordinated donations to President Trump and the NRA (even if it's $1 each) and the next day they are both out in the media talking about getting 1M new donations yesterday because of Virginia, that's a big number. Or photos from a pro-gun rally with 100,000 people that happens to be in a city other than Richmond work just as well as photos taken in Richmond. It's the numbers that matter, not the location.
apologies for formatting.
number one was meant to illustrate what the media will say. they lie. free thinkers already know - we are trying to awaken the rest.
I agree with two and three in the sense that we need as many non plants as possible. one location ensures this. new location fractures and then bad actors will start announcing their own with only plants present.
That's why I said "loudly cancel" not reschedule. But then you actually reschedule. Here's why, look at the news cycle:
End result perception-wise: Gun owners appear responsible, numerous, stand against tyranny, although maybe with some internal disagreement about organization. VA state government appears tyrannical and/or irresponsible and linked to Antifa, which appears as thugs. That's a pretty good outcome.
okay, that is a pretty great plan to capture optics.
on the flip side... cancelling shows you can be intimidated and charges pantifa as well, wouldn't you agree? then what happens when antifa starts threatening trump rallies? what about the rescheduled rally? these fools are immune to facts and driven by Soros etc. i think the best bet is to have a strong showing and put down the traitors quickly. that will send the message we are not going to bow to them; they must change or it will be them on the ground.
if we can turn this to federal jurisdiction, we can activate the reserves to ensure nationwide protection and move forward with other plans. bussing in antifa for violence already is reason enough for martial law and military activation.
I like the way you think.
".....cancelling shows you can be intimidated and charges pantifa as well, wouldn't you agree? then what happens when antifa starts threatening trump rallies?....." There's a difference. This looks like a setup. Trump rallies do not.
It does somewhat, in the short term. But I'm trying to learn from our President that when you have the real force, you can choose timing/venue to your advantage. When Iran attacked our drone, we had an attack being spun up, but he didn't like the feel of the response and instead cancelled it, loudly and publicly. In the short term maybe Iran felt empowered but most observers thought "That's good restraint" and he reserved the right to respond at a later time in a way he though best. Some time later, when Iran launched attacks on our embassies, he vaporized the general responsible and his henchmen, only. So like him we know we can respond, but we can be smart about the manner and type or response. What we really want to do is something they don't expect. So if they have a plan for dealing with a huge rally on Monday in Richmond, let's not do that, and instead figure out what they least expect and want us to do and do that instead.
Anyway, the main point isn't to do it exactly this way, it's to change the plan to something that isn't what the left is planning for. The details are up to the organizers.
Virginians should change their venue to D.C. This should be made into a U.S. vs Virginia civil rights issue, because that is what it really is. Just as the governor of Arkansas, years ago, tried to use state police and threatened to use the National Guard, to deny Arkansas minorities the right to attend desegregated public schools, another state governor is in defiance of the authority of the federal government and it's duty to defend the civil rights of its citizens.
The President should, again, use federal law enforcement, or even federal troops, to secure the rights of the people against the government of a state that is in rebellion. A state government actively denying, or threatening to deny, civil rights is also rebelling against the supremacy of the federal government and the Constitution of the United States.
The citizens of Virginia, by protesting only inside virginia, are acting as if this was just a local government trying to vote higher property taxes in the middle of the night after promising not to. This is a state with police officers, prosecutors, prisons, and even a military, denying their civil rights. It is the duty of the Federal Government to intervene and defend the rights of the people of Virginia against the tyranny of the Virginia government. It is also the duty of the Federal Government to defend the Constitution of the United States against the domestic enemy that the government of Virginia has made itself to be. It would better serve the people of Virginia to spend their time and energy reminding the federal government of that fact.
Every argument, petition, demonstration, march, or campaign by the people of Virginia to their government has been and will always be ignored by the current state government. Their time, energy, and money would be better used to petition the federal government to take action in Virginia to defend their civil rights against a rogue state government that is rebelling against the federal government and the Constitution. For a state government to deny its citizens any of their civil rights, is to deny the supremacy of the Constitution and the Federal government as its defender.
Neither Governors, nor state legislators are immune to federal laws. Many Governors and state legislators have gone to federal prison for violating federal law. It is punishable by fine, imprisonment, ,or even death, to deny or conspire to deny people of their civil rights. This is what the governor of Virginia and his legislators are guilty of. The federal government must be made aware of this, and must be pressured into investigating and prosecuting them.
EDITED several times for spelling/grammar. I just woke up. Fuck it, I'm leaving it alone now.
This is a false flag operation if I ever saw one. The Coonman is praying for blood so he can justify his bolshevik ways to take away our rights. Steer clear pedes!
If he does get his blood people will finally have to make some hard choices.
If there's bloodshed, he justifies his reasons to take away guns "See! They're violent terrorists! We need to confiscate guns!"
If no-one shows up, or there is a really weak showing, he justifies his reasons to take away guns "See! The resistance to this idea is just internet hype, people are reasonable and don't have a problem with this. We need to confiscate guns!"
A big rally, not in his staged area is best. The rally goers can tell the cameras they refuse to be set up like at Charlottesville.
Hmm, if only there were some other dimension other than 2-dimensional thinking. If only...
Appeasement never works.
Will this be your advice, attitude and approach toward ANY public future meeting or rally of American patriots? Because of speculation? Are we men or mice?
You can be men without dumbly doing what your opponents want. Did I say to reduce the crowds or slacken the pressure in any way? NO. I said don't do it where they expect you to.
I respectfully disagree. I wish all of America could be in Richmond, Virginia on 01/20/20. This is a "storm the beaches" moment. A public stand against these traitors must be made. If the traitors chose to false flag the event, Americans will see through that.
Your point is taken. But think about this: Richmond is an armed camp on lockdown, with police, sniper towers, barricades, 9 busses of confused-looking Antifa, and nobody else. Ghost town. The dem reps look fearfully out the windows trying to figure out what's going on. Someone runs in yelling "Turn on the TV!" They turn it on and there's a massive rally, streets filled, thousands of people carrying "DEMS MUST GO" signs - and it's in Norfolk.
That would be both effective and funny as hell.
At the Pentagon? In NoVA, where the problem is, supports the military, etc.
I think it is a bit short sighted to assume that the government hasn't anticipated this move. Maybe not at this event, but in the future, they will have busloads of people to supply both sides of the protest, and just run the narrative any way they wish.
In real life nobody has infinite resources and your adversaries are never omnipotent. If Monday AM the organizers announce "Oh, BTW, we're not going to the State House, we're going over here" it takes time for adversaries to adapt and adjust their responses. That's a thing called tactics and it's surprisingly effective when actually used.
Some sort of tactical feint like that would be brilliant but hard to excecute--doing a U-turn at 80 mph.
The masses never see through false flag events. I'm surprised everyone knows Epstein didn't kill himself.
I'm surprised everyone knows Epstein didn't kill himself.
It a start!
This. An Epstein look-alike but with the wrong ears died. In photoshop to the wrong scale. All the jail camera feeds failed, because swapping Epstein out and the other guy in (probably already dead) took a lot of people walking in and out of the cell.
There are no DemComs that believe Charlottesville was a setup.
Why. Go a mile down the street to a park. Same difference but no traps.
The demonstrators in C'Ville gathered in a park and were pushed out with shields by helmeted state police, into the street where an AntiFa welcoming party was waiting for them.
Except Antifa will just walk a mile down the street too...
I hate to say it, but peaceful demonstrations are not realistic anymore, in that if there is advanced notice of a gathering, the leftists will appear to cause trouble on the ground and official trouble via government and local authorities.
The right to assemble has been revoked. Prove me wrong.
They haven't tried massive demonstrations by those bearing arms. I really don't believe Antifa has the ca hones to attack anyone that could fight back.
Mass demonstrations of armed citizens is, of course, an easy thing to turn into "they shot first" crisis. However, it is also a true threat to the limited means the state has to control the population. The aim of the mass armed demonstration has to be crystal clear to all sides. Whoever dares to lead or financially support it will face all kinds of trouble as well.
If fuckery ensues it will make it easier for anti-gun police-state supporters to rush through anti-gun laws and make outlaws out of everyone in the country (the way our current "anti-terror" laws do).
The feds would love nothing more than an excuse for their SS to open fire on people at a 2A rally.
Peaceful demonstrations are impossible at this point because if it's a hot topic, the globalists will use their vast lake of money (taken from the US middle class taxes) to pay animals to show up and guarantee violence to happen.
At this point I'm afraid it may be too late to make any significant strategic changes. There is too much momentum and too little time. At best, maybe arrange to hand out flyers at the rally with recommendations on how to avoid problems, and how to react if things go bad.
FYI, VCDL (Virginia Citizens Defense League - vcdl.org) is one of the lead organizers and has organized buses from most of the Virginia counties.
Pray for all attendees and hope that everything goes smoothly.
OP iz a figgit
Actual Richmonder here, as of two hours ago I have changed my plans because I do not believe that my rights to assemble peacefully will be protected. Two separate groups of people will be allowed to mix with some on the left posing as those on the right in order to incite mass violence. Thanks for posting this OP. I agree to change the date and location or spread out the days. I may go on Tuesday. The legislation won’t even be there on Monday, the state is shut down. God bless you all and feel free to flame me. I’m a father of two young boys and there may be a time to go to war with my government but this is not it. I will work the phones and let the legislature know that this is their fault and anything that happens is such as well as my rights being violated.
There are a few reasons one of the most glaring is the RNC just took it laying down. All I have to vote for is a dem 10 year incumbent and a dope smoking libertarian.
Also, there are R legislators that back these bills.
Regarding point 3 - please take note of Amanda Chase's FB message:
If people show up wearing any kind of uniform, patch or other symbol on their clothing signifying they belong to a militia and something goes wrong, you could/will be held as a domestic terrorist.
https://www.facebook.com/Chase4Senate/posts/2840596102672514
Or just try and hand all traitors to the constitution, legally
Fuck yourself right off you fucking faggot. Turncoat plant posting shill
Fuck you right back; outmaneuvering your opponents isn't shilling and you get 0 points in politics for being stupid and predictable. You can see from my post history I'm no shill, so fuck your stupid manipulatable self right off .
I read your old posts, I apologize, I jumped the gun and thought you came off as a brigade from the other side trying to throw wrenches into spokes. My bad, I'm sorry.
Ok, we're cool, patriot. MAGA!
Well that escalated and de-escalated quickly. LOL
Thanks brother :)
Thank you for the apology. I was lurking on this post and thought that your earlier response was a bit overboard. I wish more people on this site would go back and review their comments after cooling down.
Yeah I felt bad afterwards and I should have checked post history first. It's a habit I will be making myself do.
Who's a shill now, account with 6 posts, 4 of them on this thread? Get lost.
Oops, my bad. 7 posts now! So sorry.
Didn't they? Maybe you should re-read my shit advice more carefully.
I like this, it is a bit a Guerilla Tactic and is good idea
Trump, Pence, and Eastwood need to go to the rally
That would be so awesome. Eastwood is based!
Yes I tried to post something like this myself last night... But you out-posted me! Which is fine, well done Pede...
Here's what I posted last night / (Not much but I was tired...)
Ok folks from VA don’t know if this is true or not, but, if you are going to the Pro-Gun Rally you need to be aware and careful...
https://twitter.com/Rosemar06585176/status/1218399219448340485/photo/1
Democrats want to use this as a plant for a call to VIOLENCE making us all look bad! And a good reason to declare the NRA a terrorist group and grab guns!
Post on Twitter, Facebook, Gab, etc whatever it take's but we need to get the word out ASAP!
But if you must rally? Virgina is handing out/ signing petitions for recalling Ralph Northam, join in this fight and don't stop until he's recalled...
Virgina is a beta test to see what democrats can and can't get away WITH
Get these petitions signed and force that loser to step down!
God speed Pedes!
The people who are against this post, and are insisting that it will be sufficient for the attendees to show up and be peaceful: OF COURSE THEY'LL BE PEACEFUL! SO WHAT? The enemy plan is to infiltrate and pull off a FF setup! It doesn't matter if not one true 2A supporter is there; all they need are masquerading infiltrators and a bunch of MSM cameras and voila'! Just like that, the nation will see a bunch of violent gun nuts, courtesy of the MSM, glazedham and his treasonous minions.
It's about optics, and that is ALL it will take to get that final push to get the guns: optics to convince all the people paying no attention that people like all of us are a terrible threat (Why, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!)
OTOH, dressing in suits and ties, skirts, blouses and heels; having to make a donation to POTUS; switching to another venue last minute; having POTUS speak if at all possible; showing some type of 2A ID or knowledge; etc -- all done very loudly and publicly -- will certainly put a damper on their plans. Showing up when, where, and how they want you to? Not so much. If you're going to be pro militia, them learn to think like militiamen, ie, strategically.
So when everyone stays away, the news will be that no one in Virginia cares enough to complain about the proposed laws, so the laws are GTG. How much coverage do you think 91 separate rallies will generate?
Learn from the President. If on rally day a million donations for $17.76 to President Trump showed up, how much press do you think that would generate? 0 until he tweeted about it, then a boatload. In a battle for the news cycle, don't forget you're in a battle for the news cycle.
Absolutely. 'outsmart them. ?Great post and Ihope people will be level headed enough to follow it.
100% ghost them to leave egg on their face.
I am no longer going, Northam has suppressed my 1st with his clear threats to me. I am instead spending this weekend calling my local reps and senators at all levels and letting them know. Monday I will be calling and emailing as many democrats as possible to let them know that I will be supporting pro 2nd amendment candidates across the state with my time and money.
Obama killed the 1st iteration and rise of the Tea Party, it is time to reclaim the republican party and push down the globalists.
No on will be there. The government shuts down for MLK day.
This is likely the largest problem with your plan: Name a method of communication that isn't monitored by the tyranny. Our society is so monitored and scrutinized, that making such changes are nearly impossible without notifying the govt. that it is being done.
The first thing that citizens loyal to the 1776 Constitution need to do is establish means of communication that cannot be monitored.
True but note my point is that the organizers should change their plan.This is not the plan here, this is the thread where we suggest the organizers change their plan (to one they make in secret and announce as necessary) and suggest proposals. The decision making is still in private communication.
Don't assume the demonstrators are morons that can't handle their own deal. They are full of ex-military. This isn't like Charlottesville where the government effed over the citizens.
Good luck but we still need to show up in some capacity. How else is the gun control going to stop?
It can. Depends how it's phrased.
ElderPede here: I have no physical dog in this race because I can't attend so this is just my opinion.
I have to say that I'm torn over this. On one hand we patriots cannot allow this government, or any government to take away the rights we were born with. On the other hand any violence will be seen as bad for us. No matter how many cameras we have, they still have to be seen by the majority of Americans to be useful. We know msm will paint anything as our fault. As far as 1776.2 anyone with 3 working brain cells know that would be bad for the whole country. That would give the deep state all it needs to bring in reinforcements. I believe it would destabilize the whole world. It's a tough call either way! ...KAG!
Where did this gun rally even come from? The only thing I heard a out it is when that dude went in front of camera straight up crying people were coming to his state. All of a sudden it's the biggest story in town. Seems like a way for people to forget about the impeachment hearings.
IGNORE THIS POST. IT GLOWS IN THE DARK. DONT LET THE GUN GRABBERS SCARE YOU INTO NOT SHOWING UP. THE TIME FOR REAL PATRIOTS TO STAND TALL IS NOW! GO TO VIRGINIA ON 1/20
Thank you, pede-o-saurus, I have been thinking this all morning. We have to out-smart them.
I like the idea of not going to Richmond at all and picking a new place or places.
I believe this is a demonstration of raw Government Power that is meant not only for gun-owners, It is also a
"Sit Down and Shut Up, or Elsie"
message for all Americans who think they will resisit the Unconstitutional Impeachment of our President
Appeasement never works.
You keep posting this to everyone's threads that are not about appeasement. Shifting the rally down the road to mess with your opponents is not 'appeasement', it's 'being smarter than your adversary'. So open dictionary.com and type in appeasement and learn something.
Factoid: tactics existed during the Revolutionary War and we won because ours were better, so maybe you want to go a little bit further down that rabbit hole. If you think we won my doing what the British expected, I'd like to redirect you to Washington crossing the Delaware. Strike somewhere but don't be stupid and do what your enemy expects.
Yes... something definitely fishing going on with this one. I assume we have undercover people that signed up for the ‘crisis actors’ ad that has been circulated. Be safe and God Bless!
"Important - VIRGINIA PEDES - GIVE UP YOUR RIGHTS AND SUBMIT TO BIG GOVERNMENT" is how this reads
You come on down here then.
It's interesting that you see "CHANGE YOUR PLAN" and think it means "GIVE UP YOUR RIGHTS AND SUBMIT TO BIG GOVERNMENT". Flexibility isn't submission, it's the art of war.
It's a trap. They're looking to create an incident. Being that Monday is MLK Day, they will make it about race (it isn't).
You nailed it. Think timing like that is a 'coincidence?' Hah...Fed setup. But we do have to show the globalists we mean business. Pedes--film everything and never make the 1st move.
Backing down is for pussies and leftards
https://www.americanpartisan.org/2020/01/richmond-the-mother-of-all-buffalo-jumps/
Yeah? Is there some thread somewhere you're reading that advocates backing down? Because it's not this one. This one advocates CHANGING THE PLAN to do something they don't expect. Art of war, 'pede.
Impeachment TV doesn't start again until Tuesday.
Agree with all of this. Do not have one centralized location. It would be so much easier on everyone to just go to their mayor's office parking area and upload videos. Don't let them organize violence again.
this seems very see eye aye orchestrated to me. if noone but antifirst and antisecond people show up and start fighting they look really stupid. if we show up and they show up and theres trouble, its literally what everyone expects, because its engineered that way
Strangely, the local Antifa says they agree with the 2A people and want the Governor to back off. They plan to march in support of the 2A, not start fights. There might be agitators from elsewhere, though.
I'm glad that a lot of Patriots saw the state gov requests for crisis actors, put on their best Democrat/Antifa disguises, and signed up. Having plants inside the plants will make for some truly wondrous Veritas clips. Having 'crisis actors' who then make depositions to honest law enforcement regarding what Northam's goons instructed them and others to do, even better.
Just remember, both sides will have infiltrators, not to mention that all electronic communication, cell phones, etc are compromised by deep state elements. Don't rely on planning secrecy, because there isn't any. Also don't rely on cell phones for organizational command and video recording on the day. If things get even slightly iffy, the State will shut down the cell phone system in that area.
Most importantly "No plan of action ever survives first contact with the enemy." Otoh the Left can't meme - because they are morons & NPCs lacking in intelligence and imagination. Most on Northam's side will be like that, so their ability to pivot and respond creatively to sudden developments will be poor.
Patriot's aim must be to run a huge, peaceful demonstration of pro-gun public support. Left's aim is to turn it into a bloodbath, making Patriots look like violent, gun-toting nutters (and potentially, kill as many Patriots as possible.) Left expects to create a box, with the Patriot demonstration inside, to be manipulated and crushed at will. Patriots need to think outside that box. Several possibilities: bigger box, walk around the box, be elsewhere entirely, etc. Considering that Leftist gun confiscation is unconstitutional and effectively an insurrection against Federal law, ideally the army would show up to crush and recycle the entire nest of boxes. Too bad that's very unlikely.
Don't forget, the MSM are not your friends. They are knowing agents of the Deep State Globalist Left. They are much more your enemy than any state trooper or ignorant riot cop. If things go completely tits-up, choose your targets wisely. Also have your own people assigned to truthful event recording, a job the MSM will not do. For each camera crew, have others assigned to be continually doing backups and replication of camera memory cards in real time, then ensuring that copies make it out of any state-imposed boxes. Football tactics. Everything still inside a box at the end of the day, will be confiscated and never seen again. Just like the 911 videos.
I think Trump will have the US Marshalls and FBI all over this thing.
Have armed excorts right outside the rally
Trump should claim control of the VA Gusrd and send in USMarshalls. This whoke thing is a Soros and Bloomberg agitprop. Trump can shut them down and do it legally.
Not practical and enhances the heckler's veto.
I guess the Deep State has now infiltrated theDonald.win.
it is time for the fed to put its foot down. the VA legislating body has been infiltrated by tyrannical activists that are working to undermine the US constitution which the state has agreed to abide. declare a national emergency and send in the guard to arrest Northam and his tyrant assembly and try them for treason.