I mean, can't we return to 2016 circa T_D? Basically, 4Chan lite? That is, when the chans weren't actively brigading. heh. There were daily themes (totally irrelevant to politics, btw, but FUN) and contests and people had fun.
Where is all that energy? It's been drained from the movement.
Slowly.
Over the course of years.
And, will take time to build back up. BUT, we need to get that energy back up before November. We need that youthful irreverence. IMO. That devil-may-care craziness. Otherwise, we look more and more like every other website with too many rules. More like the 80s and 90s GOP, if you ask me. And, I guess, you are asking me, so...
"Come for the excess and shitposts, stay for the theory and politics."
Heard that line on an Intellectual Dark Web thing with JP, Rubin and Shapiro. Makes sense as every single successful rally I've been two had two things...good food and good music. The politics is almost secondary. If they walk away having had a good time...and under the banner, at least, of WHATEVER YOUR MOVEMENT IS ABOUT...then it's a success. The positive feeling is their when people think of you.
This and that PBS Bannon thing. Could watch them every single day for a year and still find new insights.
My basic point is people want to feel that they matter. To have a say in the movement and not just be repositories for memes someone else created. If you get them into it, with meme workshops and contests for flairs and etc, the energy takes off. Won't happen overnight and needs to be worked up tom, now that we've fallen so low. But...
The problem with Voat is that people gave up and let the Nazis win. It's the problem with every totally 'free speech' site and the Leftist trolls know it and flood with asinine WS stuff to chance regular people off. Hell, I have a Gab account I still pay for on the off chance reasonable people want to eventually post over there!
DailyStoic:
The line from Confucius was that “Virtue is never solitary; it always has neighbors.” What he meant by that was that good behavior and good thinking is contagious. In a way, virtue is like the homeowner who moves into a rundown neighborhood and through that investment and the cheerful improvements they make to their own home and the friends and family that follow, the block begins to turn around.
It’s become a point of virtue-signaling these days to criticize this as “gentrification,” but of course that’s silly. We should want people to be doing this--not just in housing but in all walks of life. If politics is a snake pit of corruption and avarice, then good people should enter it and improve it, not simply denounce it. If capitalism is too selfish, then the caring should start businesses with better cultures (which, when successful, will steal market share from the bad actors). If a group has extreme or offensive views, it shouldn’t be cut off and isolated for fear of “normalizing it.” It should be normalized--by encouraging normal people to interact with it, correct it and prod these misguided people towards the right path.
The silliness of Ayn Rand’s book Atlas Shrugged is the premise that the talented, brilliant people leave society to create their own utopia...because they weren’t appreciated enough by everyone else. What childish nonsense. Since Plato’s allegory of the cave, the duty of the philosopher and of the virtuous person is clear: To come back to the group and share one’s knowledge. To resist the urge to be the solitary wiseman and to instead be a good neighbor.
Remember that today as you work on your studies. That the point of all this is to make the world--not just yourself--a better place.
Rude jokes about newly deceased people have not one thing to do with support of DJT, high energy, or any other worthwhile thing. They will, however show up in the news. Don't be dumb.
This post is a long-winded excuse to act foolishly in print.
One of the big reasons TD isn't as 'edgy' and YOLO as you seem to think it used to be is that the absurd, and 'Impossibly Insane Candidate Trump' is now President Trump and the 'fuck you, establishment' vote that was cast in order to watch the world burn has resulted in...phenomenally successful policies by a businessman outsider who kept his promises to the American people.
You're hooked on the adrenaline of revolution-making and that 'high' you felt 4 years ago is a very dangerous addiction. We already won the Revolution. We're now at a different point in this revolution. Trump's is no longer the 'unthinkable presidency'. We're now at the point of ensuring that Trump's becomes the 'unsinkable presidency'. Now is the terrible and unrewarding grind of making it stick into the fabric of society.
Will extremist, 'exhilaration addicts' like you turn bitter and barnburner if you can't stampede your fellow Trump supporters into maintaining the emotional high for you? That's one of the things that destroyed the Reagan Revolution in 1992. We all naively thought that: 1) Reagan's policies would stick; and, 2) all of us who voted for him would stick together through the long haul. We naively failed to factor in how much the establishment resented us and how desperate they were to restore the 'ancien regime'.
Enter the spoiler: George H. W. Bush. He killed our gains with his advocacy of globalism, and paved the way for something horrific--Clinton and his wife. They've been a blight on our country for 30 years. We, hopefully, aren't as stupid as to trust establishment Republicans and RINOs as we were back then. So, instead of haranguing follow-pedes for perpetual Revolution, put your energy into ensuring that fucksticks like Romney are NEVER allowed to succeed Trump in the future,
It's one thing when Dems undo our gains; but, it's quite another when one of our supposed 'own' does it. It'll take us another 30+ years to recover from it and we don't have that kind of time left.
Here's Pol mocking CISwhitemaelstrom for being too high energy and saying we were going to build an empire. Remember that energy? Right after the election when anything felt possible? When this actually felt like a movement?
I'm not saying side with the White nationalists or even let them spread their memes too much. I'm saying, we're not on Reddit anymore and yet it feels like we are.
Yeah I wish there weren’t any mods at all. Fuck it. Let people talk. And if the leftists think we’re nazis... it doesn’t matter because no matter what they’ll think we’re nazis.
I'm almost positive this site (and T_D for a long time) are both run by professional Leftists. Sounds crazy, huh? But anyone who was there in 2016 can see the difference like night and day.
The Chans are sorta shit, but they have their place. Were you on T_D before the election? Am I the only one who was actually there. lol. wtf?
Well, let me remember it for you since you weren't there and didn't have anything to do with getting Trump into the WH, just showed up afterwards to tell us how it should be and what we should do now.
KEK
There was a theme for every single day.
There were weekly contests for unique flairs.
For instance, a contest to write a Dr Seuss style poem that was pro-Trump (bth, I won that shit fair and square and am still waiting for my flair!kek) and whoever got the most upvotes and also whoever the mods chose, would get the thing.
Stuff like that.
New was a madhouse and pretty much anything went.
Ugly and obvious racism and just illegal or disgusting things were banned still but if it was funny hey, ok. And that was either way, btw. It was like awesome and I've not been a part of anything like it online, ever!
Guys would go there to report, "Hey this lady came in and was complaining about 'Dixie flag' fkn door mats at our store! Here a video! We need support for anyone in the Portland area!" And sure enough, that person had 'backup' the next day.
"Hey, I just got punched in the face from someone trying to steal my car!"
Shit like that. It was a community. And, due to PMs and DMs, you could have long convos on the side and get together in RL. of course, after checking to see that they supported DJT through years of shitposts! :P
All that further built that 'community atmosphere' where the mods had a light touch and sided with letting things go too far over clamping down and killing the energy when someone was having fun on a Saturday night or whatever.
I'm not even sure it matters at this point the energy has been lost.
Just something to consider. It was once great scene and a total blast.
Now, it's like any other forum online with ego and rules and dummies trying to deport and censor anyone they don't personally like. All that shit drains energy and costs us support.
AtariArtist and Gobberwarts (to name just two) are the most obvious trolls here. They consistently deport and show up to insult anything fun and anyone acting high-energy and wild.
They're either Leftists or the sort of Rightwing that show up at a party and the whole fucking place empties out because they're just egocentric assholes who have to be at the center of every conversation but have nothing positive and worthwhile to say.
What do you propose?
I mean, can't we return to 2016 circa T_D? Basically, 4Chan lite? That is, when the chans weren't actively brigading. heh. There were daily themes (totally irrelevant to politics, btw, but FUN) and contests and people had fun.
Where is all that energy? It's been drained from the movement.
Slowly.
Over the course of years.
And, will take time to build back up. BUT, we need to get that energy back up before November. We need that youthful irreverence. IMO. That devil-may-care craziness. Otherwise, we look more and more like every other website with too many rules. More like the 80s and 90s GOP, if you ask me. And, I guess, you are asking me, so...
"Come for the excess and shitposts, stay for the theory and politics."
Heard that line on an Intellectual Dark Web thing with JP, Rubin and Shapiro. Makes sense as every single successful rally I've been two had two things...good food and good music. The politics is almost secondary. If they walk away having had a good time...and under the banner, at least, of WHATEVER YOUR MOVEMENT IS ABOUT...then it's a success. The positive feeling is their when people think of you.
This and that PBS Bannon thing. Could watch them every single day for a year and still find new insights.
Frontline of Free Speech (LIVE) | Jordan Peterson & Ben Shapiro | POLITICS | Rubin Report
My basic point is people want to feel that they matter. To have a say in the movement and not just be repositories for memes someone else created. If you get them into it, with meme workshops and contests for flairs and etc, the energy takes off. Won't happen overnight and needs to be worked up tom, now that we've fallen so low. But...
We don't need another VOAT.
The problem with Voat is that people gave up and let the Nazis win. It's the problem with every totally 'free speech' site and the Leftist trolls know it and flood with asinine WS stuff to chance regular people off. Hell, I have a Gab account I still pay for on the off chance reasonable people want to eventually post over there!
DailyStoic:
Rude jokes about newly deceased people have not one thing to do with support of DJT, high energy, or any other worthwhile thing. They will, however show up in the news. Don't be dumb.
This post is a long-winded excuse to act foolishly in print.
One of the big reasons TD isn't as 'edgy' and YOLO as you seem to think it used to be is that the absurd, and 'Impossibly Insane Candidate Trump' is now President Trump and the 'fuck you, establishment' vote that was cast in order to watch the world burn has resulted in...phenomenally successful policies by a businessman outsider who kept his promises to the American people.
You're hooked on the adrenaline of revolution-making and that 'high' you felt 4 years ago is a very dangerous addiction. We already won the Revolution. We're now at a different point in this revolution. Trump's is no longer the 'unthinkable presidency'. We're now at the point of ensuring that Trump's becomes the 'unsinkable presidency'. Now is the terrible and unrewarding grind of making it stick into the fabric of society.
Will extremist, 'exhilaration addicts' like you turn bitter and barnburner if you can't stampede your fellow Trump supporters into maintaining the emotional high for you? That's one of the things that destroyed the Reagan Revolution in 1992. We all naively thought that: 1) Reagan's policies would stick; and, 2) all of us who voted for him would stick together through the long haul. We naively failed to factor in how much the establishment resented us and how desperate they were to restore the 'ancien regime'.
Enter the spoiler: George H. W. Bush. He killed our gains with his advocacy of globalism, and paved the way for something horrific--Clinton and his wife. They've been a blight on our country for 30 years. We, hopefully, aren't as stupid as to trust establishment Republicans and RINOs as we were back then. So, instead of haranguing follow-pedes for perpetual Revolution, put your energy into ensuring that fucksticks like Romney are NEVER allowed to succeed Trump in the future,
It's one thing when Dems undo our gains; but, it's quite another when one of our supposed 'own' does it. It'll take us another 30+ years to recover from it and we don't have that kind of time left.
DEPORTED. BANNED. /s
They should take a page from the OG mods that put T_D on the map:
https://www.reddit.com/user/hennny/
https://archive.is/pNlIx
https://www.reddit.com/r/OhSnapYouGotServed/
Here's Pol mocking CISwhitemaelstrom for being too high energy and saying we were going to build an empire. Remember that energy? Right after the election when anything felt possible? When this actually felt like a movement?
I'm not saying side with the White nationalists or even let them spread their memes too much. I'm saying, we're not on Reddit anymore and yet it feels like we are.
We're not fully here yet. We're in the middle.
Wouldn't doubt it.
Yeah I wish there weren’t any mods at all. Fuck it. Let people talk. And if the leftists think we’re nazis... it doesn’t matter because no matter what they’ll think we’re nazis.
Get rid of votes altogether.
But whatever. That already exists. It’s 4chan.
I'm almost positive this site (and T_D for a long time) are both run by professional Leftists. Sounds crazy, huh? But anyone who was there in 2016 can see the difference like night and day.
The Chans are sorta shit, but they have their place. Were you on T_D before the election? Am I the only one who was actually there. lol. wtf?
Well, let me remember it for you since you weren't there and didn't have anything to do with getting Trump into the WH, just showed up afterwards to tell us how it should be and what we should do now.
KEK
There was a theme for every single day.
There were weekly contests for unique flairs.
For instance, a contest to write a Dr Seuss style poem that was pro-Trump (bth, I won that shit fair and square and am still waiting for my flair!kek) and whoever got the most upvotes and also whoever the mods chose, would get the thing.
Stuff like that.
New was a madhouse and pretty much anything went.
Ugly and obvious racism and just illegal or disgusting things were banned still but if it was funny hey, ok. And that was either way, btw. It was like awesome and I've not been a part of anything like it online, ever!
Guys would go there to report, "Hey this lady came in and was complaining about 'Dixie flag' fkn door mats at our store! Here a video! We need support for anyone in the Portland area!" And sure enough, that person had 'backup' the next day.
"Hey, I just got punched in the face from someone trying to steal my car!"
Shit like that. It was a community. And, due to PMs and DMs, you could have long convos on the side and get together in RL. of course, after checking to see that they supported DJT through years of shitposts! :P
All that further built that 'community atmosphere' where the mods had a light touch and sided with letting things go too far over clamping down and killing the energy when someone was having fun on a Saturday night or whatever.
I'm not even sure it matters at this point the energy has been lost.
Just something to consider. It was once great scene and a total blast.
Now, it's like any other forum online with ego and rules and dummies trying to deport and censor anyone they don't personally like. All that shit drains energy and costs us support.
AtariArtist and Gobberwarts (to name just two) are the most obvious trolls here. They consistently deport and show up to insult anything fun and anyone acting high-energy and wild.
They're either Leftists or the sort of Rightwing that show up at a party and the whole fucking place empties out because they're just egocentric assholes who have to be at the center of every conversation but have nothing positive and worthwhile to say.
Spotted the progressive.