I guess they afraid of getting their butts sued off if they get classified as a publisher. Imagine the lawsuits if you could sue them for defamation every time you get call a [email protected] Their market cap would evaporate in seconds.
"Facebook reported its slowest-ever revenue growth for the fourth quarter, at 25 per cent."
I'm sure that has nothing to do with it either. Even with these statements I don't expect them to back down on stuff like WHO telling them to crack down on Coronovirus 'misinformation'.
IF, and it's a big fat IF, FB actually tries to tone down on censorship, we will still see governments and government agencies threatening them over anything they can to keep the populations uninformed.
Believe me I am skeptical, I actually rolled my eyes at the original headline and went in expecting a bunch of duplicitous "we're just trying to save society from the evil right wingers!"
I was rather surprised to find the actual statements that he did make: "It kind of feels like the list of things that you're not allowed to say socially keeps on growing, and I'm not really okay with that."
Zuckerberg is a leftist but not an SJW as far as I know. He comes across as dependent on lawyers and he does what they tell him. It's the FB managers who do all this SJW nonsense.
Zuckerburg really isn't a leftist, just a self centered asshole. He was pushing the left's agenda to cozy up to them. Then the left started attacking Facebook and its userbase was shifting to the right. So he swapped sides.
He pushes whatever he thinks benefits him and his company at the immediate moment and will turn the second it is convenient.
Hey, if Facebook actually stops censorship, I'd be willing to actually make an account. Gotta show them that turning away from the far left=increased profit.
There have also been leaks showing that they have "Black Pages" which are collections of information on people who DON'T use facebook.
A facebook user mentions you and their server can't find you? It makes a a data entry. Someone uploads a photo of you and the facial recognition can't find your page? It makes a data entry. Someone mentions your name on one of those photos? It puts two and two together and makes a page dedicated to figuring out who you are, and why you aren't using facebook.
It is also a deepstate link analysis tool which they do little work to gather your data because it is nearly 100 percent voluntary. When we participate we give them a very powerful tool which they are likely using against us. This move is to lure people back. Remember. Facebook founded by DARPA originally known as My Life and renamed facebook. Facebooks birthdate and my life's end date are the same day. Then they gave it to Zuckerberg and pretended he invented it. He is run like a puppet
Facebook will not end "censorship." As soon as the word gets out that Facebook is loosening up, people unclear on the concept of free speech will start stinking up the place, other users will complain, and there will be new rules.
Not even a tiny little bit. Zuck hates free expression, and people in general. If he claims to want to loosen censorship, it means he's going to double down and increase censorship.Just hopes he'll convince people he's really a nice guy after all, while stomping on their faces.
If any company on earth has a window into what is really going on in society, it's Facebook. They can see the true number of people who support Trump, and although they would never publicly admit it, they know its staggering, and is growing and not gonna stop.
And they can see that censorship not only is backfiring, but soon will be impossible with the advent of decentralized applications. If somebody gets censored, they just need to move to another social media platform who won't censor them and all their fans will follow them there. Facebook know that this is a major problem for them and censoring has becoming a liability, especially since Trump is gonna win 2020. They are betting on the winner.
And their primary income is selling peoples information.
Turns out it's really hard to scan peoples conversations for juicy info when you don't allow them to speak.
If you pay attention the leftist SJW types have been attacking Zuckerberg for quite a while. I watched Soros(at Davos) claiming that Facebook swung 2016 in Trump's favor. He's been under attack from all sides for a while for now. I've seen numerous examples of Facebook SJW bias in the past but apparently it wasn't enough. If he genuinely wants to create a place for free expression then he is on the right path because there is nothing you can do to please the SJW idiots.
However, my opinion as of right now is, "I'll believe it when I see it."
They get caught all the time "leaking" people's information. Always promise that it will never happen again. Then they do it again. Anything they say you have to question.
They want to catalogue you as you post. You will be classified by your words and possibly labeled something you are not but usbconvenient for them. Ditch facebook.
They may also collect info to red flag some folks. Be wary of a fraud like Zuckerberg who suddenly becomes benevolent.
Billionaires like Zuckerberg have massive egos and thin skins. If someone like Soros, or one of his goons, "disrespected" Zuckerberg, he'd probably just go into full on vindictive mode as payback.
Right now, FB & others use technology that requires central-controlled servers. Except for their brand, they can be replaced with platforms that have no centralized servers or control. A person can choose their app/skin and share with others who purchased some other app/skin — without fear of big brother censorship.
FB, from a technology-commercial sense, is a dead man walking.
Social media today is like the black model T or the black dial telephone. In practically no time, the social media world will be a variety of colors and models.
Frankly, Trump could have the US government roll out a common carrier style universal protocol and a thousand startups will replace FB, Reddit, Twitter, etc.
Zuck knows it & his only hope is to save the brand.
(Yes, 39 years ago I created an html language and worked the internet in the 1980’s. What we are using now is really Flintstones stuff.)
" Except for their brand, they can be replaced with platforms that have no centralized servers or control."
I'm working on one myself, but I'm not sure if anything is really a genuine threat to them yet. Like you said all they have is brand recognition right now, but that's the most powerful tool they have. An open source tool that anyone can use, anyone can rename or rewrite however they want will never be able to compete with an established brand. Simply because brand recognition is ingrained into the psyche of the normies.
Fortunately, just about everyone hates facebook in some way or another, even it's userbase. Far too many people feel trapped there because it's what everyone else uses. There is an opening right now to exploit that weakness, but nothing is really ready to tackle the central problem, which is the actual network of friends. What we need is a social network that can still communicate with people, even if they don't use the app.
I have a feeling, after Zuck met with Trump, he may really mean this,,, to some extent. He seems a bit reserved these days.. Now wait! Before y'all go crazy, I say this because in my morning new brief, on my cell, there was an article titled "Soros says Zuckerberg should not be in charge of FaceBook". When the big money goes after someone, big money is pissed someone isn't following orders.
We did the something these disgusting vipers cannot (yet) stop:
(1) made our own, American, social media platforms ( i.e. not cucked Euro SJW and not organ transplanted Chinese prison planet platforms)
(2) re-engaged in our lives as CITIZENS and looked to our laws, the constitution, reason, and open debate for guidance. We skipped out on lispy communist professors and the zombie mainstream media.
Uhh guys, when you type Facebook into google news they don’t even list this article.
But 3rd on the list is Soros saying zuck shouldn’t control Facebook.
I think zuck is going full fuck you to the establishment.
I guess they afraid of getting their butts sued off if they get classified as a publisher. Imagine the lawsuits if you could sue them for defamation every time you get call a [email protected] Their market cap would evaporate in seconds.
"Facebook reported its slowest-ever revenue growth for the fourth quarter, at 25 per cent."
I'm sure that has nothing to do with it either. Even with these statements I don't expect them to back down on stuff like WHO telling them to crack down on Coronovirus 'misinformation'.
IF, and it's a big fat IF, FB actually tries to tone down on censorship, we will still see governments and government agencies threatening them over anything they can to keep the populations uninformed.
They are afraid of being MySpaced.
Believe me I am skeptical, I actually rolled my eyes at the original headline and went in expecting a bunch of duplicitous "we're just trying to save society from the evil right wingers!"
I was rather surprised to find the actual statements that he did make: "It kind of feels like the list of things that you're not allowed to say socially keeps on growing, and I'm not really okay with that."
Zuckerberg is a leftist but not an SJW as far as I know. He comes across as dependent on lawyers and he does what they tell him. It's the FB managers who do all this SJW nonsense.
Zuckerburg really isn't a leftist, just a self centered asshole. He was pushing the left's agenda to cozy up to them. Then the left started attacking Facebook and its userbase was shifting to the right. So he swapped sides.
He pushes whatever he thinks benefits him and his company at the immediate moment and will turn the second it is convenient.
Hey, if Facebook actually stops censorship, I'd be willing to actually make an account. Gotta show them that turning away from the far left=increased profit.
Edit: IF they actually stop censorship
The censorship is bad but the tracking and spying they do, which they will never stop, is a reason to never go there.
They just settled a lawsuit for over half a billion dollars for secretly collecting biometric data from users.
There have also been leaks showing that they have "Black Pages" which are collections of information on people who DON'T use facebook.
A facebook user mentions you and their server can't find you? It makes a a data entry. Someone uploads a photo of you and the facial recognition can't find your page? It makes a data entry. Someone mentions your name on one of those photos? It puts two and two together and makes a page dedicated to figuring out who you are, and why you aren't using facebook.
It is also a deepstate link analysis tool which they do little work to gather your data because it is nearly 100 percent voluntary. When we participate we give them a very powerful tool which they are likely using against us. This move is to lure people back. Remember. Facebook founded by DARPA originally known as My Life and renamed facebook. Facebooks birthdate and my life's end date are the same day. Then they gave it to Zuckerberg and pretended he invented it. He is run like a puppet
All this fucker cares about is money. He makes money if enough chumps use all the "free" shit he produces.
Stop logging in, stop uploading, delete the app, and his empireis gone. We could do it in week if enough of us got on board.
So did Soros. Really gets the almonds roasting.
? never heard that phrase before ??
I think this us an OP with a nefarious purpose
Facebook will not end "censorship." As soon as the word gets out that Facebook is loosening up, people unclear on the concept of free speech will start stinking up the place, other users will complain, and there will be new rules.
Anyone believing this ?
Nope. Not for a second
Not until I see it, but I certainly wasn't expecting those statements.
absolutely not, but it's nice to think about.
When I see it, maybe.
Not even a tiny little bit. Zuck hates free expression, and people in general. If he claims to want to loosen censorship, it means he's going to double down and increase censorship.Just hopes he'll convince people he's really a nice guy after all, while stomping on their faces.
Doesnt matter to me, facebook lost me forever.
They see the writing on the wall. If they interfere with the election, they will be screwed.
If any company on earth has a window into what is really going on in society, it's Facebook. They can see the true number of people who support Trump, and although they would never publicly admit it, they know its staggering, and is growing and not gonna stop.
And they can see that censorship not only is backfiring, but soon will be impossible with the advent of decentralized applications. If somebody gets censored, they just need to move to another social media platform who won't censor them and all their fans will follow them there. Facebook know that this is a major problem for them and censoring has becoming a liability, especially since Trump is gonna win 2020. They are betting on the winner.
And their primary income is selling peoples information.
Turns out it's really hard to scan peoples conversations for juicy info when you don't allow them to speak.
Yes and daTa collection on the link is down. They need data. No user no data...ditch facebook
He's speaking Orwellian. Don't trust a word from that forked tongue.
Snake has forked tongue ya know
Are you implying that FB gets its revenue from government funding? Heavens no, tell me it isn't so.
If you pay attention the leftist SJW types have been attacking Zuckerberg for quite a while. I watched Soros(at Davos) claiming that Facebook swung 2016 in Trump's favor. He's been under attack from all sides for a while for now. I've seen numerous examples of Facebook SJW bias in the past but apparently it wasn't enough. If he genuinely wants to create a place for free expression then he is on the right path because there is nothing you can do to please the SJW idiots.
However, my opinion as of right now is, "I'll believe it when I see it."
Zuck isn't exactly the most truthful person. The Winklevoss twins can attest to that.
He outsmarted a couple billionaire faggots, I can dig that.
If you ask me Zuckerberg is nothing but trouble and he deserves what he gets for siding with democrats...
Here's hoping that Facebook will one day fades into history...
No wonder Soros is mad.
I will believe it when I see it.
They get caught all the time "leaking" people's information. Always promise that it will never happen again. Then they do it again. Anything they say you have to question.
I'll believe it when they unban Alex Jones and everyone else they fucked over.
They want to catalogue you as you post. You will be classified by your words and possibly labeled something you are not but usbconvenient for them. Ditch facebook.
They may also collect info to red flag some folks. Be wary of a fraud like Zuckerberg who suddenly becomes benevolent.
Beware Androids bearing electric gifts
Wow, he finally listened to that cricket. He’s on his way to becoming a real boy!
Billionaires like Zuckerberg have massive egos and thin skins. If someone like Soros, or one of his goons, "disrespected" Zuckerberg, he'd probably just go into full on vindictive mode as payback.
He might be full of shit, but we'll see.
He’s got to save the brand as fast as possible.
Right now, FB & others use technology that requires central-controlled servers. Except for their brand, they can be replaced with platforms that have no centralized servers or control. A person can choose their app/skin and share with others who purchased some other app/skin — without fear of big brother censorship.
FB, from a technology-commercial sense, is a dead man walking.
Social media today is like the black model T or the black dial telephone. In practically no time, the social media world will be a variety of colors and models.
Frankly, Trump could have the US government roll out a common carrier style universal protocol and a thousand startups will replace FB, Reddit, Twitter, etc.
Zuck knows it & his only hope is to save the brand.
(Yes, 39 years ago I created an html language and worked the internet in the 1980’s. What we are using now is really Flintstones stuff.)
Best move: get the fuck off these social network sites ASAP and double down on time w family or people you find fun and interesting.
" Except for their brand, they can be replaced with platforms that have no centralized servers or control."
I'm working on one myself, but I'm not sure if anything is really a genuine threat to them yet. Like you said all they have is brand recognition right now, but that's the most powerful tool they have. An open source tool that anyone can use, anyone can rename or rewrite however they want will never be able to compete with an established brand. Simply because brand recognition is ingrained into the psyche of the normies.
Fortunately, just about everyone hates facebook in some way or another, even it's userbase. Far too many people feel trapped there because it's what everyone else uses. There is an opening right now to exploit that weakness, but nothing is really ready to tackle the central problem, which is the actual network of friends. What we need is a social network that can still communicate with people, even if they don't use the app.
Say anything you want if you're a liberal parasite
I have a feeling, after Zuck met with Trump, he may really mean this,,, to some extent. He seems a bit reserved these days.. Now wait! Before y'all go crazy, I say this because in my morning new brief, on my cell, there was an article titled "Soros says Zuckerberg should not be in charge of FaceBook". When the big money goes after someone, big money is pissed someone isn't following orders.
Could it be ? the uncuckening ?
If he does allow its only to shit on Soros.
I’m actually believing him, particularly since both Clinton and Soros decided to attack him recently.
Hey, credit where it's due, good Zuck.
I for one see the sh** they push on instagram. I don’t believe him, he’s going out of his way to lie and misinform
free speech just means they will now offer recording and selling your unfiltered self.
I am still not getting back on facebook
Ha ha, get fucked Zuck!
We did the something these disgusting vipers cannot (yet) stop:
(1) made our own, American, social media platforms ( i.e. not cucked Euro SJW and not organ transplanted Chinese prison planet platforms)
(2) re-engaged in our lives as CITIZENS and looked to our laws, the constitution, reason, and open debate for guidance. We skipped out on lispy communist professors and the zombie mainstream media.
I wonder if infowars will be ok to post again.
Uhh guys, when you type Facebook into google news they don’t even list this article. But 3rd on the list is Soros saying zuck shouldn’t control Facebook.
I think zuck is going full fuck you to the establishment.
did trump reprogram zuckerborg at that meeting?
Unban and I'll stop hating Facebook. I still won't use it, but at least I won't hate it.
Fuck you zucbook just shut up and go bankrupt already fucking thieve