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Fleeltord_Atvar 0 points ago +1 / -1

Great news, so far, no proof or evidence that it is or created by humans.

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Gobberwarts 2 points ago +5 / -3

China has never had a problem removing unwanted people in a manner that doesn't put desirables at risk.

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muslimporn 2 points ago +2 / -0

I've taken a preliminary look at the genome. Mathematically speaking it's not possible to rule out natural mutation.

If those three sequences do however match gp120 as claimed and the gp120 sequence is short then that does raise suspicions.

Experiments gone wrong are a real possibility. Animals can escape or be improperly disposed off (even ending up at the food market).

I haven't looked at the gp120 sequence closely. There's another question of if all the inserts are functional. The genome is tiny, little room for junk so probably.

Just because it can be natural doesn't mean it's not artificial.

In fact I am now certain its artificial due the massive censorship of it. If it weren't artificial you wouldn't do that. Instead you'd show your working out.

The only reason to have to suppress all evidence of it is that it's true.

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buco 1 point ago +1 / -0

I believe president Pooh had other ideas on who to use the virus on, and it isn't his own people.

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utfanx2 1 point ago +1 / -0

Scary thought. Save up for retirement, only for the government to decide you are expendable, and take your money with a death tax.

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nothingberg [S] 6 points ago +7 / -1

The usual suspects have joined us to discredit this,

discredit mike adams

oh look he's like infowars trying to sell supplements. Yeah, that's what some news sites have to do you dicks because they either don't have ads, don't charge subscription...they sell merchandise

Anyway, I love the "yeah already been debunked" crowd. No part of it was debunked and the underlying citations are scientific papers

But you know gobblerwarts is a very well published virulogist and immunologist and that's why he's here trying to shut down this narrative

lol

you've become so very predictable gobblerwarts

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Gobberwarts -3 points ago +3 / -6

Gaetan Burgio found that these 4 insertions mentioned in the preprint are real. However he also found over 100 hits each for every single one of these 4 insertions. They are also found in other coronaviruses, plants, parasites, and bacteria.

Silvana Konermann pointed out that 2 are already found in bat coronavirus. Of the remaining two, only one is most similar to HIV, and is so short (6 AA) that the similarity is not higher than chance.

Not to mention the fact that the authors of your study have been so embarrassed by the comments in response to it, that they have withdrawn it.

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muslimporn 1 point ago +1 / -0

What the fuck is AA? I've never heard of that unit of measurement.

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Gobberwarts -4 points ago +2 / -6

You have no idea how amusing is it to watch you try to turn "Gobberwarts" into a sexually based insult, you dumbass gobberwart.

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Larka 6 points ago +6 / -0

At this point, I'd be willing to wager that it escaped from the biosciences lab in Wuhan and had a degree of human tinkering to it. Beyond that, the information has been so heavily contradictory and preliminary at best, that we might be waiting for the retrospective to get the truth.

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muslimporn 1 point ago +1 / -0

It looks like the kind of inserts you might anticipate if trying to make a vaccine or similar research such as just to see what those pieces do at a very vague glance. Vaccines do naturally occur though.

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TrumpLovesYou 2 points ago +2 / -0

There has been so many different reports from different sources that appear reputable I don't know what to think, A very recent study said that although it was very different from the bat Corona virus - which would imply tinkering - it is only 10 sections different from a civet corona virus. That could be natural. Whenever you say it has been tinkered with, you have to be sure what baseline you are starting from. I'm never eating civet again!

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flashersenpai 1 point ago +3 / -2

Yes, breaking from "naturalnews" and not any other well known organization with hands-on experience and resources.

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Isolated_Patriot 3 points ago +3 / -0

You would prefer CNN?

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Gobberwarts -5 points ago +1 / -6

Honestly? Yes..

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1776er 2 points ago +4 / -2

Then you, sir, are a buffoon of the highest caliber

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Gobberwarts -2 points ago +1 / -3

I don't trust either one. But CNN has an agenda that can be figured out. Natural News just sells itself to the highest bidder.

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1776er -1 points ago +1 / -2

Fair enough but nothing CNN prints can be taken at face value. Their agenda, while clear, colors their articles so vividly that the truth is entirely obscured. They've been pushing a narrative instead for a long time. I really don't know anything about natural news it was more of a fuck CNN thing

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Gobberwarts -2 points ago +1 / -3

.... i want to say so much to you right now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_News

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muslimporn 0 points ago +1 / -1

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/AY862402

https://patents.google.com/patent/CN1276777C/en

Mirror these before they're taken down and anything resembling it.

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Gobberwarts 0 points ago +5 / -5

If a lie is only printed often enough, it becomes a quasi-truth, and if such a truth is repeated often enough, it becomes an article of belief, a dogma, and men will die for it. - The Crown of a Life (1869) by Isa Blagden.

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BidenSmellsKids 0 points ago +3 / -3

Yeah pedes, be sure to pick up some of the "immunes system supplements" they're selling on this site.

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thewild1one 0 points ago +4 / -4

Still on this kick, eh?

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Isolated_Patriot 6 points ago +6 / -0

They were supplementing the rice with PLASTIC PELLETS to save on costs.

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Strike08 1 point ago +1 / -0

1800 wasn't all that better. The shit we did with food for just profit was terrible (heavy metals in flour was quite common).

However this corona virus just seems to me a normal mutation due to extremely bad hygiene (there is a reason that we keep cooked/raw meat and live animals seperate in the west). The Chinese government has tried to cover this up due to the damage it will cause to their economy especially with the US being strict on trade and a Hong Kong creating one hell of a riot. There are more interesting viruses for use in biological warfare and Corona isn't one of those.

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Strike08 3 points ago +3 / -0

Or someone with more biological knowledge to know what a real bio-weapon outbreak looks like. If you really want to make a bio-weapon you would take something truly lethal, infectious and difficult to treat. Smallpox would be a prime candidate. Extremely difficult to treat, spreads like the plague and due to it being labeled exterminated no country would expect it.

Corona is just a bad case of the flu (in terms of lethality) and most deaths are due to people with a weakened immune system or an opportunistic infection from another disease (MRSA is still a bitch).

All in all it is quite fun to see China trying to sweep the outbreak under the rug which causes it to spread even more. It also makes a lot of countries reconsidering placing manufactoring back into the western world (no backwater culture that insists on eating bat soup should be responsible for production)

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Gobberwarts -3 points ago +6 / -9

So tell me.. Assuming this isn't another piece of total bullshit..What nefarious intentions are behind the act of trying to produce a vaccine?

Oh never mind. I see the article mentions the entirely debunked hiv inserts theory.

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FancyBeerCoozyBeer 4 points ago +5 / -1

Well I don't think you make a bioweapon without a vaccine.

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PinochetIsMyHero 1 point ago +1 / -0

Umm, you kind of have to. You can't make a vaccine without making the virus first.

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Shades 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hey retard. There are literally dozens of them in every fucking country experimenting with Level 4 Diseases, to turn them into more dangerous bio-weapons. To the point of turning them into airborne diseases, in bullshit claims of trying to understand how they work, to make a vaccine that doesn't, and wont exist for another few years.

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Ballind 3 points ago +4 / -1

Hiv insert study wasn't debunked. All of the science was confirmed. The publicized argument against their conclusions was that any one of the four strings show up in many other places, while ignoring the fact that all four show up nowhere else. If it was such a likely occurrence, why is there no other match in any other organism or virus? In fact, the only close match was a viral strain published by the same wuhan lab a couple days ago, after the initial study was released.

The only argument I've seen with merit is that, while the probably is approaching 0, one in a billion things do happen once in a billion, so it's possible that's the case here.

Edit: if you hit the disagree button because I'm wrong, go ahead and link a credible debunk that passes a cursory sniff test. Deliberately misrepresenting the circumstances does not pass, fyi