Not saying ignore someone who is obviously a criminal. Your right that their is no excuse and it saddens me to see that this is what some become when Martin Luther king fought so hard for equality and non-violence. But your statistic is only New York. I dont think it is equal to the whole nation. But my main issue with your argument is that your making it seem like they are raised to be that way. There are plenty who don't commit crimes. Even if we go by your statistic that's 40% who don't. They shouldnt be demonized for the other 60%. But I agree that it is a issue, locking them all up isn't a solution. We need to find the root of the problem and fix it. How do we get the stat down and rehabilitate those that do commit crimes. My thing wasn't making excuses but how do we reach these people.
Even if we go by your statistic that's 40% who don't. They shouldnt be demonized for the other 60%.
Wrong again.
When 6% of the population is committing 40% (or more) of the crime and murders, the entire subculture should search their soul to discover how they could possibly have fucked up so badly as to become more savage than wild beasts...
...they shouldn't be winning awards for rap music glorifying rape and murdering Law Enforcement Officers.
From my experience, and I mean no personal disrespect for my insights and experience, however I can guarantee one thing: your argument is based on at least one of three things: apathy, the lust for getting a pat on the head for being politically correct or cowardliness at being accused of racism.
You should show more respect for the broken victims and less fear of disrespecting the rapists and murderers.
I hope you never hear the bestial sounds a mother make when they discover their daughter has been raped to death - it's unnaturally deep and it's unnaturally loud and it just doesn't stop. That's one thankful thing the TV crime shows neglect to show... but I guarantee it would cure you and gift you with new, pragmatic perspectives.
Your wrong on the reasons why I feel that way. It is non of the three. Once again I am not saying they should be excused, I personally think anyone who rapes a child or murders in cold blood with no remorse or a serial killer should all be shot in the head.
I understand your experiences as a police officer working in New York city. I can definitely see how you have come to the conclusion you did. My experience has been completely different though.
I do feel for the broken victims and family, I also feel for the parents who son has become a murder, rapist, drug dealer, serial killer, etc. I do feel more for those people who were victimized and the families that were destroyed by these people. It isn't inherently because they were born black though. It is more then that, it is the environment they were brought up in and even though some can escape most are unable to or unwillingly too.
I do agree that it is a subculture though. Gangsta rap and the like are pretty damn horrible. I personally don't listen to much rap, I'm mainly about rock and roll. Though my friends listen to it, so I have heard some songs.
I guess my thing is trying to help those who obviously can't help themselves. How do we reach these people before they are too far gone. Heck I don't even believe in our prison system it just seems to breed better criminals then rehabilitating them.
At the end of the day, we agree that there is a issue. We just have different ways on how to solve it.
Oh and thank you for your service to our police force and helping keep the streets safe. I feel officers get a unfair bad rep. The media tends to glorify the mistakes officers do and not try and see it from their perspective. Sometimes officers do take things to far but this is the minority and not the whole police force. So thank you man, for putting your life on the line for us.
How do we reach these people before they are too far gone?
I've asked this question of hundreds of intelligent black fathers and most of them say the same thing... and you may not like it... but send black children to the military to learn how to be adults.
That's the best solution back fathers and I can provide, short of locking black children in cages to prevent the tsunami of murders and rapes they will otherwise cause.
Do you feel your political correctness melting?
And the end of the day, we agree that their is a issue.
Don't know where ethe 77% came from but I meant the ones that had actual parents or single parent trying their hardest to keep the kid in line.
I think you have the wrong impression of me >_> military would be a great way to straighten them out. Only problem is most don't make it too 18 to sign up before it's too late. I am pro military and military spending. Now I do think we may be wasting some of the money we use and we need to get more oversight. But it doe spiss me off when we close bases and they talk about lowering the defense budget like our enemies aren't just waiting to pounce the second we show any weakness.
I wouldn't say it is my political correctness. I'm not trying to be politically correct and earn brownie points our anything. Honestly man, It's GOD's teachings that make me feel this way. I do my best to see things the way he does, love everyone the way he does. Until the end of that person's life, there is always redemption. It is saddening to see people just give up on others or demonize other. On both the left and the right. It's sad to see the love he imbued with all of us turn into hate or apathy. I have strong emotions and empathy, these are the gifts that GOD has given me. There has to be a better way to reach these people, in order to the protect the innocent and save the souls of those who lost their way.
Not saying ignore someone who is obviously a criminal. Your right that their is no excuse and it saddens me to see that this is what some become when Martin Luther king fought so hard for equality and non-violence. But your statistic is only New York. I dont think it is equal to the whole nation. But my main issue with your argument is that your making it seem like they are raised to be that way. There are plenty who don't commit crimes. Even if we go by your statistic that's 40% who don't. They shouldnt be demonized for the other 60%. But I agree that it is a issue, locking them all up isn't a solution. We need to find the root of the problem and fix it. How do we get the stat down and rehabilitate those that do commit crimes. My thing wasn't making excuses but how do we reach these people.
Wrong again.
When 6% of the population is committing 40% (or more) of the crime and murders, the entire subculture should search their soul to discover how they could possibly have fucked up so badly as to become more savage than wild beasts...
...they shouldn't be winning awards for rap music glorifying rape and murdering Law Enforcement Officers.
From my experience, and I mean no personal disrespect for my insights and experience, however I can guarantee one thing: your argument is based on at least one of three things: apathy, the lust for getting a pat on the head for being politically correct or cowardliness at being accused of racism.
You should show more respect for the broken victims and less fear of disrespecting the rapists and murderers.
I hope you never hear the bestial sounds a mother make when they discover their daughter has been raped to death - it's unnaturally deep and it's unnaturally loud and it just doesn't stop. That's one thankful thing the TV crime shows neglect to show... but I guarantee it would cure you and gift you with new, pragmatic perspectives.
Your wrong on the reasons why I feel that way. It is non of the three. Once again I am not saying they should be excused, I personally think anyone who rapes a child or murders in cold blood with no remorse or a serial killer should all be shot in the head.
I understand your experiences as a police officer working in New York city. I can definitely see how you have come to the conclusion you did. My experience has been completely different though.
I do feel for the broken victims and family, I also feel for the parents who son has become a murder, rapist, drug dealer, serial killer, etc. I do feel more for those people who were victimized and the families that were destroyed by these people. It isn't inherently because they were born black though. It is more then that, it is the environment they were brought up in and even though some can escape most are unable to or unwillingly too.
I do agree that it is a subculture though. Gangsta rap and the like are pretty damn horrible. I personally don't listen to much rap, I'm mainly about rock and roll. Though my friends listen to it, so I have heard some songs.
I guess my thing is trying to help those who obviously can't help themselves. How do we reach these people before they are too far gone. Heck I don't even believe in our prison system it just seems to breed better criminals then rehabilitating them.
At the end of the day, we agree that there is a issue. We just have different ways on how to solve it.
Oh and thank you for your service to our police force and helping keep the streets safe. I feel officers get a unfair bad rep. The media tends to glorify the mistakes officers do and not try and see it from their perspective. Sometimes officers do take things to far but this is the minority and not the whole police force. So thank you man, for putting your life on the line for us.
77% of black parents abandon their infant children as if they are trash.
You shouldn't worry about those parent's feelings if they can't be fucked worrying about their children...
...most of your "worry" is based on fan fiction.
I've asked this question of hundreds of intelligent black fathers and most of them say the same thing... and you may not like it... but send black children to the military to learn how to be adults.
That's the best solution back fathers and I can provide, short of locking black children in cages to prevent the tsunami of murders and rapes they will otherwise cause.
Do you feel your political correctness melting?
And that's the problem - we don't all agree there is an issue.
Don't know where ethe 77% came from but I meant the ones that had actual parents or single parent trying their hardest to keep the kid in line.
I think you have the wrong impression of me >_> military would be a great way to straighten them out. Only problem is most don't make it too 18 to sign up before it's too late. I am pro military and military spending. Now I do think we may be wasting some of the money we use and we need to get more oversight. But it doe spiss me off when we close bases and they talk about lowering the defense budget like our enemies aren't just waiting to pounce the second we show any weakness.
I wouldn't say it is my political correctness. I'm not trying to be politically correct and earn brownie points our anything. Honestly man, It's GOD's teachings that make me feel this way. I do my best to see things the way he does, love everyone the way he does. Until the end of that person's life, there is always redemption. It is saddening to see people just give up on others or demonize other. On both the left and the right. It's sad to see the love he imbued with all of us turn into hate or apathy. I have strong emotions and empathy, these are the gifts that GOD has given me. There has to be a better way to reach these people, in order to the protect the innocent and save the souls of those who lost their way.