Many folks don't know this but our courts have consistently ruled that the police, Law Enforcement officers paid by the Public to Serve and Protect, are not compelled to come to your aid. If you have not been aware of this in the past read it again and understand; the police can not be compelled to come to your aid, they have no legal requirement to help you. You cannot sue them or hold them accountable when they refuse you, either.
If you look at some history of our American Society you will discover many instances where police simply refuse to respond. Whether riots or terrorists or simple crime, the police are not required to aid you. In many jurisdictions today they will not respond for simple crimes at all, property theft or disturbances. And some jurisdictions will charge you a fee if they do respond.
So get that paradigm out of your head - the police are not there to protect citizens at all. Don't expect 'justice' from our Justice System, it ain't happening for most of us.
This is yet another reason why we have the Second Amendment, WE must do our parts as Citizens and help police society. An armed Society is a polite Society for a reason after all.
The Enemy knows the cops most likely will not help you, mayors and other officials know they are not in any legal trouble if they refuse to police terrorists and thugs. The only one in danger is We the People, the honest Citizens just going about our business, building Society. Those who destroy Society are in no danger from the police tho, and they know it.....YOU have to know it as well.
Do I recall correctly that the courts have also ruled that the police are not obligated under any circumstance to tell the truth? Or was that simply rumor?
I do remember something about it being 'ok' for them, LE/Government, to lie if they claim it is to pursue a case. Like using undercovers, those guys lie like rugs but then in court their word is gold somehow.
Like I tell the kids...never ever talk to the cops, ever. When they were young I told them to just say 'Please would you call my Parents?' And nothing more, sit there with your mouth shut and just relax, wait for us.
But regardless of the reason an adult finds themself being asked/told to talk to cops the best idea is Don't Do It! If you screw up simple things they can/will hammer you, and when they lie/set you up it don't matter, you're still hammered.
Story time.....years ago I needed cops for a serious crime. During the investigation I was told by the FBI to record everything I discussed with anyone on my phone or in person. In Texas that's legal, a person may record any conversation to which they are a party without informing the other party. I ended up recording a local Detective lying, he tried to make me into a criminal but I produced a copy of the recording, which the idiot then tried to confiscate. He suffered no consequences for his lies but if I had not recorded him I might have been charged with shiite I did not do.
I'm glad I don't live in Portland. I'm not sure how anyone seeing this shit in their streets could hold themselves back from retaliating with lethal force against these terrorists and the people enabling them and providing cover for them.
Nothing grinds my gears more than seeing police take the side of terrorists, its an abomination when it happens in europe, and I never thought it would happen in the same country subject to the 9/11 terrorist attacks. That is all the grounds any official worth a damn ought need to designate portland PD and the mayor & police chief as terrorist supporters. Hard, cold, evidence.
If they want to whine that they have no obligation to protect people, then arresting people for defending themselves cant be allowed - police have no mandate or authority to sentence innocent people to death using antifa as a means of killing.
Not ALL blue live matter. The portland police IS antifa, they need to go (violently). Use the national guard to remove them, see how tough they really are. I normally like cops but these fucking pigs need to go.
The Oregon state police should arrest the entire police 'leadership' in Portland. If they don't then Trump should send in US Marshals to do it, backed by units under US Army North.
Portland is a sanctuary city, and we know that the mayor there hates Trump and that the police are looking the other way on ANTIFA crimes
This is just more evidence that at the least, the mayor of Portland coordinating with the police to create a problem for Trump, to create such a mess through police passivity to lawlessness.
You see, creating lawless mess is going to culminate in a police or city hall bigwig being killed, its a matter of time. Then it's going to FORCE TRUMP to respond with the US MILITARY, DOMESTICALLY
History shows us that these conflicts do not end well. Selma, Desegregation during the civil rights movement, rodney king.. are notable examples. See for yourselves
So recap. I believe this is more evidence that the mayor has given the portland police orders to allow the lawlessness of ANTIFA, in order to force Trump to make a mistake and send in the military.
How should Trump respond?
He should
A) Do nothing. Send no one. Extract any loyalist / Trump supporters from Portland by poaching them into different executive agencies elsewhere. That way, Portland becomes completely polarized with weirdos and lunatics who will destroy themselves. Keep in mind, they will destroy THEM SELVES.. that's why you get the good ones out first
B) DeFund the everliving Shit out Portland. If they complain, you defund ALL OF OREGON, the entire state. And you make damn sure you tweet the names of the people responsible. "Portland Mayor and any coordinating with him/her is responsible for Oregon losing its funding for FY2020 and FY2021"
C) You map out all of ANTIFA and cancel their loans and put liens against any of their property. You seize their cars. You seize their bitcoin. You seize their houses. This can be done under the presidential directive against terrorism and sponsors of terrorism. If they complain, arrest them for advocating overthrow of the us government (felony) and charge them also with incitement of riots (felony), sedition (felony), disturbing the peace (misdemeanor). Since they are on twitter and coordinate thru twitter, it's an additional conspiracy charge (felony), and it's also intimidation of voters (felony) because they are threatening people with political violence
You report them as being a member of a terrorist organization to the school they attended. Possibly nothing comes of this. But possibly the school will revoke their degree, if their degree is based also on conduct even beyond their attendence as a student (breach of contract)...this gives the school the legal right to revoke your degree for breach of conduct by participating in terrorist organization; even if not a terrorist org but a protest org that has committed crimes.
And if the public university doesn't take action against a substantial number of antifa members, Trump can threaten to permanently cancel public funding to that university.
I prefer option B. Basically sanction them. Do the same for California, and any other state that has even a small town within that has declared itself a "sanctuary" for illegals, for states that are trying to remove the 2nd amendment, etc.
Use the saved funding for infrastructure in states that are not sanctioned.
Kate Brown and here cronies are going to be unseated. We have Police for a reason,
She work for us the People of Oregon not big dollar supporters. Get over yourself Kate. Start protecting the People.
This is how you get vigilantes, espically when someone gets kiled. You think a bunch of soy boys are what you should fear? Try a roaming band of pissed normies.
President Trump should order the Portland police department to be dissolved, activate the National Guard to protect the city and form a task force to create a new police department with people that want to protect honest citizens.
Public Service Announcement , listen up People.
Many folks don't know this but our courts have consistently ruled that the police, Law Enforcement officers paid by the Public to Serve and Protect, are not compelled to come to your aid. If you have not been aware of this in the past read it again and understand; the police can not be compelled to come to your aid, they have no legal requirement to help you. You cannot sue them or hold them accountable when they refuse you, either.
http://gunssavelives.net/blog/supreme-court-ruling-police-have-no-duty-to-protect-the-general-public/
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-The-Supreme-Court-ruled-law-enforcement-agencies-dont-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect-citizens?share=1
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html
https://second-amendment-patriots.com/2013/01/30/supreme-court-ruling-police-have-no-duty-to-protect-the-general-public/
If you look at some history of our American Society you will discover many instances where police simply refuse to respond. Whether riots or terrorists or simple crime, the police are not required to aid you. In many jurisdictions today they will not respond for simple crimes at all, property theft or disturbances. And some jurisdictions will charge you a fee if they do respond.
So get that paradigm out of your head - the police are not there to protect citizens at all. Don't expect 'justice' from our Justice System, it ain't happening for most of us.
This is yet another reason why we have the Second Amendment, WE must do our parts as Citizens and help police society. An armed Society is a polite Society for a reason after all.
The Enemy knows the cops most likely will not help you, mayors and other officials know they are not in any legal trouble if they refuse to police terrorists and thugs. The only one in danger is We the People, the honest Citizens just going about our business, building Society. Those who destroy Society are in no danger from the police tho, and they know it.....YOU have to know it as well.
Be safe people, be armed.
Run/rantoff/exe.
https://files.catbox.moe/83cxc3.jpg
"Protect and Serve (THE GOVERNMENT)"
Or their agendas, habits, handlers...yeah.
https://files.catbox.moe/9289wt.jpg
Do I recall correctly that the courts have also ruled that the police are not obligated under any circumstance to tell the truth? Or was that simply rumor?
I do remember something about it being 'ok' for them, LE/Government, to lie if they claim it is to pursue a case. Like using undercovers, those guys lie like rugs but then in court their word is gold somehow.
https://www.infowars.com/supreme-court-rules-prosecutors-can-lie-and-fabricate-evidence/
https://thefreethoughtproject.com/court-rules-police-legally-lies-pull-people-fish-criminal-behavior/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frazier_v._Cupp
https://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/criminal-law/juvenile_law/police_lie_questioning.htm
Like I tell the kids...never ever talk to the cops, ever. When they were young I told them to just say 'Please would you call my Parents?' And nothing more, sit there with your mouth shut and just relax, wait for us. But regardless of the reason an adult finds themself being asked/told to talk to cops the best idea is Don't Do It! If you screw up simple things they can/will hammer you, and when they lie/set you up it don't matter, you're still hammered.
Story time.....years ago I needed cops for a serious crime. During the investigation I was told by the FBI to record everything I discussed with anyone on my phone or in person. In Texas that's legal, a person may record any conversation to which they are a party without informing the other party. I ended up recording a local Detective lying, he tried to make me into a criminal but I produced a copy of the recording, which the idiot then tried to confiscate. He suffered no consequences for his lies but if I had not recorded him I might have been charged with shiite I did not do.
Anyhow, yeah cops can lie and do, all the time.
I'm glad I don't live in Portland. I'm not sure how anyone seeing this shit in their streets could hold themselves back from retaliating with lethal force against these terrorists and the people enabling them and providing cover for them.
i wouldnt be able to hold back...ill tell you that
I'd probably be dead or in jail. I'm a peace loving person but I don't think I'd feel any remorse standing over a mountain of dead antifa.
Nothing grinds my gears more than seeing police take the side of terrorists, its an abomination when it happens in europe, and I never thought it would happen in the same country subject to the 9/11 terrorist attacks. That is all the grounds any official worth a damn ought need to designate portland PD and the mayor & police chief as terrorist supporters. Hard, cold, evidence.
If they want to whine that they have no obligation to protect people, then arresting people for defending themselves cant be allowed - police have no mandate or authority to sentence innocent people to death using antifa as a means of killing.
My nephew has a name for people who despise violence enough that we'd kill to prevent it... he calls us "violent pacifists".
I like that term.
Reckon you don't run to the chickens (Portland Police) to get protection from a coyote.
Not ALL blue live matter. The portland police IS antifa, they need to go (violently). Use the national guard to remove them, see how tough they really are. I normally like cops but these fucking pigs need to go.
The Oregon state police should arrest the entire police 'leadership' in Portland. If they don't then Trump should send in US Marshals to do it, backed by units under US Army North.
Portland is a sanctuary city, and we know that the mayor there hates Trump and that the police are looking the other way on ANTIFA crimes
This is just more evidence that at the least, the mayor of Portland coordinating with the police to create a problem for Trump, to create such a mess through police passivity to lawlessness.
You see, creating lawless mess is going to culminate in a police or city hall bigwig being killed, its a matter of time. Then it's going to FORCE TRUMP to respond with the US MILITARY, DOMESTICALLY
History shows us that these conflicts do not end well. Selma, Desegregation during the civil rights movement, rodney king.. are notable examples. See for yourselves
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-national-guard-deployments-timeline-htmlstory.html
So recap. I believe this is more evidence that the mayor has given the portland police orders to allow the lawlessness of ANTIFA, in order to force Trump to make a mistake and send in the military.
How should Trump respond?
He should
A) Do nothing. Send no one. Extract any loyalist / Trump supporters from Portland by poaching them into different executive agencies elsewhere. That way, Portland becomes completely polarized with weirdos and lunatics who will destroy themselves. Keep in mind, they will destroy THEM SELVES.. that's why you get the good ones out first
B) DeFund the everliving Shit out Portland. If they complain, you defund ALL OF OREGON, the entire state. And you make damn sure you tweet the names of the people responsible. "Portland Mayor and any coordinating with him/her is responsible for Oregon losing its funding for FY2020 and FY2021"
C) You map out all of ANTIFA and cancel their loans and put liens against any of their property. You seize their cars. You seize their bitcoin. You seize their houses. This can be done under the presidential directive against terrorism and sponsors of terrorism. If they complain, arrest them for advocating overthrow of the us government (felony) and charge them also with incitement of riots (felony), sedition (felony), disturbing the peace (misdemeanor). Since they are on twitter and coordinate thru twitter, it's an additional conspiracy charge (felony), and it's also intimidation of voters (felony) because they are threatening people with political violence
You report them as being a member of a terrorist organization to the school they attended. Possibly nothing comes of this. But possibly the school will revoke their degree, if their degree is based also on conduct even beyond their attendence as a student (breach of contract)...this gives the school the legal right to revoke your degree for breach of conduct by participating in terrorist organization; even if not a terrorist org but a protest org that has committed crimes.
And if the public university doesn't take action against a substantial number of antifa members, Trump can threaten to permanently cancel public funding to that university.
You see, Trump could fuck antifa in many ways
I prefer option B. Basically sanction them. Do the same for California, and any other state that has even a small town within that has declared itself a "sanctuary" for illegals, for states that are trying to remove the 2nd amendment, etc. Use the saved funding for infrastructure in states that are not sanctioned.
They need to reboot DEXTER as an ANTIFA member who kills ANTIFA members
Kate Brown and here cronies are going to be unseated. We have Police for a reason,
She work for us the People of Oregon not big dollar supporters. Get over yourself Kate. Start protecting the People.
There is no law in this country. People need to get that through their heads. We have as much law in the United States as there is in Somalia.
I look forward to them starting violence, target practice should be fun
And that’s why the 2nd Amendment is so important...
This is how you get vigilantes, espically when someone gets kiled. You think a bunch of soy boys are what you should fear? Try a roaming band of pissed normies.
I wonder if that means they wont protect Antifa either. If thats the case, id would be to Antifa's disadvantage. Those faggots cant fight.
Reckon you don't run to the chickens (Portland Police) to get protection from a coyote.
President Trump should order the Portland police department to be dissolved, activate the National Guard to protect the city and form a task force to create a new police department with people that want to protect honest citizens.
Stop filming them. Soros will stop giving them money if they are rioting but no one is paying attention.
Don’t worry guys, Portland PD is taking care of what REALLY matters!
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/meet-jocko-portland-police-bureaus-new-comfort-dog/283-5dc7fa52-4758-4105-aabc-8f4baa4bda25