My sister in law is Mexican, a legal immigrant and a US citizen. She is all for the wall, and border control; their communities are the ones that suffer the most from illegal aliens. After all, their communities are where the illegals take refuge, and are the communities most targeted by the gangs and criminals.
She went through all the trouble to learn English, get an education, and become a productive citizen (she's a Special Ed teacher in Phoenix). She doesn't see why the illegals -- and she has no trouble with that term whatsoever -- not only refuse to do the same, but destroy the communities of those who, like herself, did it right. I really like and admire her.
I remember in highschool, we had this debate and I was against illegals. This chick speaks up and says "they have a right to live happy lives" paraphrasing but a lot more worded. Basically made me out to be a racist. It was kind of messed up.
That's just it though - people won't starve to death in America any more. It isn't a wild, untamed land like it was in the 1600s, 1700s.
We're a Christian nation. I personally don't know anyone who would walk past a starving person. If you're willing to work, you won't go hungry.
People need to learn how to COOK, again. Beans and rice, collard greens - even dandelions are very nutritious and every part of the plant is usable; flowers, stems, leaves, roots.
I've been poor. I've worked 2 min wage jobs at a time, sometimes 2 and a half jobs at a time. Lived in rented trailers that were abominable - but clean, because I cleaned them. Bought leftover paint, and custom paint that wasn't used...once got 2 gallons of a beautiful shade of creamy yellow that transformed a huge dining room in an old house I rented for cheap.
Being poor is OK. One can be poor and still have dignity. I saw it, and lived it, every day for almost 15 years. I still see it every day in my nearest community. Some of the best folks I've ever known were poor.
I went to college as soon as I was able, and learned a lucrative and enjoyable trade in the medical field. I took 3 student loans, paid the rest in cash. Paid off my loans in less than 10 years.
Worked like a dog - double shifts, taking extra call, weekend call, overtime, etc.
I'm good at my job. I built a reputation for myself. I was able to work PRN at private surgical centers and was paid very well for that.
I was able to get the shift I wanted at the hospital, and maxed out my salary because A) I'm damned good at my trade and B) I work like my life depends on it - because it does. I did all that for 15 years.
I am semi-retired now and fairly wealthy, by most peoples' standards. I live on 115 acres that we love improving - it's beautiful. Natural springs, etc. We designed and built our home (we didn't personally build it - altho we did do a lot of the finishing work and had a blast doing it)
We took a big piece of neglected land and turned it into a lush, beautiful retreat. People spend huge amounts of money to spend one week in a getaway like this - and we live it every day. We're very blessed.
I have a good husband who also worked like a dog and made a good living, so I didn't do it alone but I contributed as much as he did. We're a TEAM and we work well together.
Point is - I've been poor. I didn't go to university straight out of high school. I learned a trade and that's exactly what it is. People pay me to do what I do because I'm good at my trade. I demand top rates and I get it - because I"m good at it.
I've been poor with dignity, and over the years I've built something to leave to my descendants. We're debt-free because we worked at it. People think financial solvency is a right but it isn't. It's a result of an ongoing effort and in America, you can go as high or as low as you want to go.
I know, because I've done it. I was never on welfare. No food stamps, no check in the mail. Just work. It can be done.
Cleaning toilets was not beneath me. I was not above sweeping out warehouses or cleaning other peoples' homes. I took any job I could get and I appreciated (and learned from!) every one of them.
I bought my clothes in thrift shops. For 15 years the only new clothing items I bought routinely were underwear, socks, and shoes. Everything else - used. Used furniture, clothes, appliances, cars, etc.
Now I have my dream vehicle. Top of the line appliances. Custom furniture. Antiques. We travel whenever we want to. No debt.
WE DID IT!
We are the American Dream and we had an absolutely grand time getting here.
Thanks, friend. I was happy most of the time - looking back it was difficult at times, but I never bemoaned my 'fate.' I was where I was mostly because of my own stupid choices.
Maybe if I'd had the option of going to Uni (or trade school, even) right out of HS I'd have done things differently.
There are worse things than being broke, although that will humble a person.
: )
Slightly more to it... see: Gangs of New York, There Will be Blood.
Before you let yourself and your family starve to death you sharpen sticks.
Better to not allow people who can't demonstrate they can provide for themselves to come here at all. This way they don't get butt hurt and commit crimes when they don't get free stuff out of the welfare systems not intended for them (systems paid into by people who do not intend for it to be paid out to non-US citizens). As Trump said... "We're full."
I guess it would help with LEGAL immigration where people come here by way of a relative/sponsor petitioning them with an affidavit of support (form i-134) and then that relative/sponsor shrugs off that responsibility and/or the immigrant just goes straight to the welfare / free medical lines for help.
What does it do for illegal immigration though? Illegal immigrants are not LPR, nor do they have visa's to apply for LPR status. They're law breakers from the gate -literally.
What about anchor babies?? It's these 'new citizens' that are eligible for welfare. The illegal parents just spend it, they don't have green cards or any cards. Eventually they become citizens with chain migration from the anchor baby. So how does this help?
This is even funnier because didn't you say you were a legal Latino American a while back?
Gracias Grande Jefe Papi Trumpo.
My sister in law is Mexican, a legal immigrant and a US citizen. She is all for the wall, and border control; their communities are the ones that suffer the most from illegal aliens. After all, their communities are where the illegals take refuge, and are the communities most targeted by the gangs and criminals.
She went through all the trouble to learn English, get an education, and become a productive citizen (she's a Special Ed teacher in Phoenix). She doesn't see why the illegals -- and she has no trouble with that term whatsoever -- not only refuse to do the same, but destroy the communities of those who, like herself, did it right. I really like and admire her.
I remember in highschool, we had this debate and I was against illegals. This chick speaks up and says "they have a right to live happy lives" paraphrasing but a lot more worded. Basically made me out to be a racist. It was kind of messed up.
That's just it though - people won't starve to death in America any more. It isn't a wild, untamed land like it was in the 1600s, 1700s.
We're a Christian nation. I personally don't know anyone who would walk past a starving person. If you're willing to work, you won't go hungry.
People need to learn how to COOK, again. Beans and rice, collard greens - even dandelions are very nutritious and every part of the plant is usable; flowers, stems, leaves, roots.
I've been poor. I've worked 2 min wage jobs at a time, sometimes 2 and a half jobs at a time. Lived in rented trailers that were abominable - but clean, because I cleaned them. Bought leftover paint, and custom paint that wasn't used...once got 2 gallons of a beautiful shade of creamy yellow that transformed a huge dining room in an old house I rented for cheap.
Being poor is OK. One can be poor and still have dignity. I saw it, and lived it, every day for almost 15 years. I still see it every day in my nearest community. Some of the best folks I've ever known were poor.
I went to college as soon as I was able, and learned a lucrative and enjoyable trade in the medical field. I took 3 student loans, paid the rest in cash. Paid off my loans in less than 10 years.
Worked like a dog - double shifts, taking extra call, weekend call, overtime, etc. I'm good at my job. I built a reputation for myself. I was able to work PRN at private surgical centers and was paid very well for that. I was able to get the shift I wanted at the hospital, and maxed out my salary because A) I'm damned good at my trade and B) I work like my life depends on it - because it does. I did all that for 15 years.
I am semi-retired now and fairly wealthy, by most peoples' standards. I live on 115 acres that we love improving - it's beautiful. Natural springs, etc. We designed and built our home (we didn't personally build it - altho we did do a lot of the finishing work and had a blast doing it) We took a big piece of neglected land and turned it into a lush, beautiful retreat. People spend huge amounts of money to spend one week in a getaway like this - and we live it every day. We're very blessed.
I have a good husband who also worked like a dog and made a good living, so I didn't do it alone but I contributed as much as he did. We're a TEAM and we work well together.
Point is - I've been poor. I didn't go to university straight out of high school. I learned a trade and that's exactly what it is. People pay me to do what I do because I'm good at my trade. I demand top rates and I get it - because I"m good at it.
I've been poor with dignity, and over the years I've built something to leave to my descendants. We're debt-free because we worked at it. People think financial solvency is a right but it isn't. It's a result of an ongoing effort and in America, you can go as high or as low as you want to go.
I know, because I've done it. I was never on welfare. No food stamps, no check in the mail. Just work. It can be done.
Cleaning toilets was not beneath me. I was not above sweeping out warehouses or cleaning other peoples' homes. I took any job I could get and I appreciated (and learned from!) every one of them.
I bought my clothes in thrift shops. For 15 years the only new clothing items I bought routinely were underwear, socks, and shoes. Everything else - used. Used furniture, clothes, appliances, cars, etc.
Now I have my dream vehicle. Top of the line appliances. Custom furniture. Antiques. We travel whenever we want to. No debt.
WE DID IT!
We are the American Dream and we had an absolutely grand time getting here.
Poor is a state of mind. By my lights you were never poor, a little (very) strapped for cash perhaps, but not poor.
Thanks, friend. I was happy most of the time - looking back it was difficult at times, but I never bemoaned my 'fate.' I was where I was mostly because of my own stupid choices. Maybe if I'd had the option of going to Uni (or trade school, even) right out of HS I'd have done things differently. There are worse things than being broke, although that will humble a person. : )
Slightly more to it... see: Gangs of New York, There Will be Blood.
Before you let yourself and your family starve to death you sharpen sticks.
Better to not allow people who can't demonstrate they can provide for themselves to come here at all. This way they don't get butt hurt and commit crimes when they don't get free stuff out of the welfare systems not intended for them (systems paid into by people who do not intend for it to be paid out to non-US citizens). As Trump said... "We're full."
That's what has been done
Doesn't mean what most think it means.
I guess it would help with LEGAL immigration where people come here by way of a relative/sponsor petitioning them with an affidavit of support (form i-134) and then that relative/sponsor shrugs off that responsibility and/or the immigrant just goes straight to the welfare / free medical lines for help.
What does it do for illegal immigration though? Illegal immigrants are not LPR, nor do they have visa's to apply for LPR status. They're law breakers from the gate -literally.
Yeah this unfortunately doesn't affect illegals.
Nothing for illegals, think about the Sharia enclaves that spawned Omar though? Clean out the festering mess
Agreed, immigrants should not be able to get any government social support. If taxes are going to help someone they have to at least be american.
This is YUGE.
America First!
Great news! Next step: end the anchor baby interpretation of the 14th amendment.
What about anchor babies?? It's these 'new citizens' that are eligible for welfare. The illegal parents just spend it, they don't have green cards or any cards. Eventually they become citizens with chain migration from the anchor baby. So how does this help?
But won't this discriminate against useless, parasitic, lazy, shitholers?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Or
If someone refused to appear for Jury Duty by stating that they are not a citizen
The end of the consent decree now makes this challenge possible