The media really went from 0 to 60 on this. They should have done their jobs and kept people apprised on what's happening, but advise cool heads. I'd say on a scale of 1 to 10, we should be worried at about a 3.
Just watched a story on my local news about a 62 year old guy that is just getting over having it, he said for him it was like a mild flu...more of a nasty chest cold. They are praying this gets really bad just to make Trump look as bad as possible, which is fucking sick.
It has a 28 day incubation period (can spread without symptoms, we have no vaccine for it, it can spread via mouth/eyes/nose or by touch, it can survive on surfaces for up to 9 days, and it currently has a 2-10% mortality rate which is magnitudes above the flu.
Then you have the panic it will cause which will probably be worse than the actual virus based on what's going on in Italy.
My question is how did it go from 14 to 28? And if we arent trusting the Chinese on the number of cases, why are we trusting them on the incubation period. That is where the 28 number comes from correct?
People held for 14 days and released got sick. 28 days is the largest gap. Effectively they are learning the effects on the fly and as time goes on. Longer this goes on for the more we learn about it. Some people have a larger delay than others.
We kind of have to rely on Chinese numbers or else we just go in blind. Can't prepare for something that we know little about while ignoring all Chinese data.
Everything you've just said is completely inaccurate. The virus has an incubation period of up to 14 days and most begin showing symptoms around day 5. No estimates I've seen say a 28 day incubation period. The period of time the virus can survive on surfaces is definitively unknown, but is suspected to be only a matter of hours, not nine days. The mortality rate of the coronavirus is up to 3%, not 3-10%.
You're propagating hysteria.
EDIT: So upon researching it further, it appears the notion of a 28 day incubation period is based on a single Chinese man who appeared to exhibit symptoms 27 days after having contact with his infected sister. A single ambiguous case does not warrant a definitive statement that the virus has an incubation period of 28 days, and the official information from WHO and the CDC is that the incubation period is at most 14 days with 3-5 days being the usual period before symptoms begin presenting.
This is the only answer. They're trying to trigger a panic selloff .
I hope there's an agency / agent in the government that is man enough to take them to task for this. It seems that attempting to manipulate the stock market would be against some law.
It sure will be sad when the Trump Boomerang strikes again and the homeless in West Coast cities start getting assed out by the virus and we have to round them up into quarantine for the safety of the community.
What really was stupid is that even popular sentiment on T_D was buying this garbage until a couple of weeks ago. "MSM is downplaying it! China is covering it up! These ALL CAPS Coronavirus fearmongering titles almost daily even on this forum.
It was never even remotely close to being a pandemic if you looked at the numbers. Too many people buying the hype.
I presented that poorly, I meant that these talking points were being used to spread this resident evil style worldwide-pandemic idea in people's minds. China naturally covers stuff up because they're obviously all about covering their asses and making themselves look good.
I wanted to point out that this wasn't any indication that it was a worldwide threat. It was just being parroted to spread fear that "hundreds of thousands of people had died" and that people in western countries would soon be dying off in droves - without any proof whatsoever.
It's funny how they ignored the virus when it was in China and people were posting videos of the CCP rounding up citizens and throwing them in boxes.... and then within a day all of a sudden it's Coronavirus 24/7.
I'm not exactly certain what their slant is; but, there's definitely an agenda with the virus.
I think people should be seriously concerned about this. It's not going to end civilization but the store runs and fights will be real. Likely to have areas isolated so no supplies moving. It has between a 2%-10% mortality rate according to Chinese numbers.
I think the mortality rate will be significantly lower if they can keep the spread down. Maybe even less than 2%. The problem is when everyone gets it at once and ~10% need a hospital bed. There just aren't that many hospital beds in a city. When the hospitals have to start turning people away, then the mortality rate will go up.
I don’t know why you got downvoted, it’s not the virus that I am worried about it’s panic in the general population - it’s a very serious situation not concern trolling but it’s better to be over prepared then under prepared.
I've got extra canned food, beans and rice, a full freezer, masks, flu medicine, and asthma medicine. Also stocked up big-time on hand sanitizer and those sanitizing wipes.
It probably over-preperation but I feel a lot better after doing it, and there's really no downside to being prepared. Here in the Midwest I've never done hurricane prep :-)
Most of the US does not have the same population density or public transportation as China. We also have better hospitals, less air pollution, and fewer smokers.
Even if it does hit us, I’m not sure it will hit us nearly as hard. The economic impact of all these Asian countries being hit might be a problem though.
At least we’ll be fine on food, though stocking up is never a bad idea...
100% on the hospitals, but on population density, Wuhan and Hubei province are definitely more more comparable to American metropolitan areas than Beijing.
Depends who's getting it in the first place. If it's mostly the very elderly and/or seriously ill to begin with, the true impact of a "high" death rates would be much less than if the total incidence includes a lot of young and healthy people. It sounds kind of callous, but it's reality.
If most of the deaths from coronavirus are simply acceleration of the deaths of people who were going to die in the next year or two anyway, there's little concrete impact on society. Very different from HIV/AIDS in the early years before effective treatments were developed -- that was killing mostly people who were young, healthy, and economically productive at the time they became infected.
Yes, but they had extensive occupational exposure (quite likely accompanied by occupational exposure to other infectious agents, creating co-morbidity factors), were likely weakened by sleep deprivation, and may have had other risk factors that are more prevalent among young Chinese professionals (e.g. poor nutrition, heavy smoking) than among young professionals in fully developed countries. There has also been some speculation that there may be some ethnic factor that increases susceptibility and/or severity in Asians.
Obviously there's still a lot to learn, but I'll be extremely surprised if coronovirus starts killing off previously healthy young and middle-aged adults in the US in any significant numbers.
I know 24 yr olds in worse shape than 60 yr olds because of a lack of ANY exercise along with a McDonalds and Ramen noodles diet. Probably kill them then cause a lot of panic because people look at age not lifestyle.
I noticed this, too. Some leftist douchebag on Tucker the other day sounded like an NPC in an infinite loop, he only could talk about "this science-denying President" and how we "can't trust his response to Coronavirus because he denies climate change!"
This is all Trump's fault because he thought about reducing the budget for the CDC at some point, so clearly this outbreak in China is all on him! #Trumpvirus
Info for anyone interested or worried about the Coronavirus, what actions the USA has taken, what actions they may take in the future and if you have any risk factors:
1/31/2020: White House Proclamation on Suspension of Entry as Immigrants and Nonimmigrants of Persons who Pose a Risk of Transmitting 2019 Novel Coronavirus:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/…/proclamation-suspension-entry…/
Future actions when needed:
“While aggressive measures such as travel restrictions and the first federal quarantine in a half century have probably slowed the arrival of the coronavirus in the U.S., Messonnier said even more intrusive steps will likely be needed.”
“Those measures could include school closings, workplace shutdowns and canceling large gatherings and public events, she warned.”
Link:
https://www.npr.org/…/health-officials-warn-americans-to-st…
Confirmed cases of coronavirus in Chinese population (it is slowing down there):
78,064
Population of China:
1,386,000,000
Percentage of Chinese people infected:
0.0000563232
Please check my math.
The elderly and immunocompromised are the most susceptible to developing serious illness from it.
China is not fully reporting its numbers. Wuhan has like 9 Million people and there are sick everywhere. Maybe 78,064 admitted to hospital (who knows how many turned away).
This virus can have a 14-28 day period of being contagious without symptoms. So outbreaks are heavily delayed. It can survive on surfaces up to 9 days and can spread through touch or by airborne mucus membrane.
The 28 day incubation period is the real problem. One person could spread it to thousands and then the hospitals get hit will get bombarded. Heck I'm currently sick with one of the yearly things and having a second virus happen at the same time could be bad.
That may backfire horribly in 2 ways. If everyone panics, buys supplies while its still in supply, then the virus hits then it won't be that bad and people will be ready during Trumps presidency. If Trump manages to somehow stop the worst virus promoted by the media in history than he's a god emperor that can fight plagues.
It's great to watch their internal struggle. Check out the wutang subs, they have been trained to hate Tucker Carlson, but they had to admit he's been doing good reporting.
Also buy supplies before the store runs happen and supply lines shut down. Be prepared Italy has already begun lockdowns to prevent the spread (too late).
The media is the root of all evil in this country. When media cheers for the dow dropping as a way to hurt him its quite pathetic how deranged they all are. I really do respect Trump for how he was able to really expose these people for the corrupt POS they all are.
Amen! It’s going to seriously trash 3rd world countries where the healthcare still sucks, but most of the west will weather the storm just fine.
Our leftists would have us all believe that Australia is going to be all but destroyed by Coronavirus.
Uhh no... so far we have recorded a total of around 23 cases, 19 of which have recovered. The remaining infected are not only isolated, they’re being very well taken care of.
China released the virus where and when it did on purpose to cause maximum damage to Trump in 2020. To fight the trade war they could not just ban exports to the US and get away with it. But the bioweapon deployed against their own people provided the perfect cover to hurt the American economy. The months of information suppression was not done to save themselves embarrassment. It was done to intentionally maximize the damage to Trump's machine and also to get the virus to spread as far and wide as possible so China could come out on top.
Hard to imagine China coming out on top of this. They rely on the international trade that's pulling away from them. They have citizens intentionally spreading the virus as an act of rebellion, trying to stress the system to hurt the Communist Party. Their information suppression is revealed left and right, the complicity of the lab, and suspicion about the deaths of whistleblowers. It's an embarrassment.
I think since the chinese communists are fully evil gangsters who care more about their own money and power than human life, they would be more than happy to kill a hundred thousand or more regular chinese people if they were sure it would result in Trump losing 2020. It is admittedly a stretch, but this is clown world after all.
You could have made a similar logical argument about liddle adam shcitt before the impeachment thing over the Ukraine call - "they won't impeach, since there's obviously nothing illegal about the call with Ukraine's president, it would only hurt their chances in 2020. They wouldn't do it since it will obviously help Trump".
Now I know those two things aren't the same at all. I'm not saying releasing a bioweapon on your own people to "Get drumpf" is in the same ballpark as filing bogus impeachment articles to "get drumf" but I'm saying the logic of "they wouldn't do something that will overall hurt them in the end" doesn't always apply when the players are irrational or operating on wrong assumptions. And I think we could both agree that the chinese communists and the adam schitts are both operating on wrong assumptions.... at the very least.
I gotta say that Tim Poole isn't any better in this regard. I love his political commentary, but the dude is inciting panic and is now hocking prepper nonsense for money. Wtf is he doing? He's discrediting his own work....
You have to look at what happened in Italy over the last week, once we get community spreading without the ability to index where it came from it’s going move fast - think of it like a DDOS attack on our medical system
The Washington Post posted that bombshell headline....and then 2 sentences in "the CDC is unclear if the individual had any contact with anyone traveling from so and so" ...and the person happens to be located right next to the Air force base where people are being quarantined.
So while it didnt have a "clear source", the sensationalized headline made it sound like they were sure the person had no contact with a person traveling to China, but that's not the case. They dont even know. Then the person happens to be located right next to the Air Force Base. Pretty big coincidence.
Watch it be gone by April like Trump said. Watch the markets rebound and smash new records as the DNC heads into it's brokered convention. Watch as the first debate everyone already forgot about Corona like they did about Swineflu and all that's left is "miraculous stock rally!" being shouted from every news paper as Bloomberg gets the nomination and finally puts to rest any lingering doubts about the left being for sale.
I doubt it'll be gone by April, but I think things will have calmed down and be fairly business as usual by then.
The Japanese have it right: The shit is too infectious to stop, but isn't nearly as dangerous if you catch it early and can provide treatment. If you can slow it down enough that your medical infrastructure doesn't get overloaded then it effectively is just a very nasty flu.
April seems much too optimistic, I've gotta say. Quite a CCP talking point. Maybe we can stop confirmed US cases by then, but some relatively serious countries are getting so hosed that's just too fast.
I based this on the fact that the FED will meet the 17th of march and China is reopening factories already.
Don't get me wrong, the RECOVERY will be done by April 1st, we won't be out of the woods for months regarding the virus itself but the trend will be back to upward growth.
So let me get this straight: China eats gained fucking Bat Soup and contracts this. They unknowingly spread the virus around. Once China finds out about it, they keep it on the hush until it spills over into other countries. Italy is now on lock down, the Olympics may get cancelled, and a few people in the US have it, and it’s all Trump’s fault?
Funny how they went from doing everything to downplay concerns as racist fearmongering about Glorious China, to direct fearmongering themselves as soon as they'd devised a way to use it politically.
Prepare for the worst, but hope for the best. I joined sam’s club and bought some stuff in bulk, stuff I needed anyway like soap, toilet paper, and water. It wasn’t busy.
I really think the dims are importing and spreading this virus just to make Trump look bad. I mean look where this all started. Where it was stolen from and where the first US cases are. Good ole commiefornia.
What was it that Candice Owens Farmer said in a House hearing?: Every 4 years all democrats have to offer are handouts & fear.
Boy, are they upping that "strategy". I'm a normal-enough human being & I cannot understand how anyone wouldn't feel embarrassed knowing it's obvious to you & EVERYONE ELSE that you're embarrassing yourself. I will say this, though; we've been seriously worried about the virus at my house... until the "news" & democrats (Rod Rosenstein's sister at the CDC, initially) suddenly started talking about this with their hair on fire after banning ZeroHedge, labeling everyone a "conspiracy theorist" for saying China's full of shit, & now going after Rush for saying everything's going to be okay when they've been demonizing any worry about this for months.
Lastly, I'll say, they keep talking about how the sky is falling, because we're out of masks. THEY KNOW DAMN WELL US "CONSPIRACY THEORISTS" HAVE BEEN POINTING OUT THAT MASKS DON'T HELP ANYWAY!
Funny, they started the "don't bother with masks" thing back when this was all a racist panic instead of an opportunity to shill for socialized medicine.
seriously, a constant stream of "reeee! the sky is falling! the icebergs are melting! net neutrality will kill us all! and half of us are already dead from biden's guns!"
spez to say: it must be utterly exhausting to be on the other side of maga. i bet if we take away their energy drinks, the dems would collapse in on themselves.
'Cause not enough healthcare gibs. Never waste an opportunity to insist socialism is the proper answer. Just look at how well China, Iran, and Italy are doing! lol
If it fails to get a foothold in the US vs. all these other countries, it serves as an endorsement of our existing system, and they can't have that. Have to convince people ahead of time that it will be worse, and then claim it was just too late thanks to those damn Repiglicans when it fails.
I’ve been out of the loop for a few weeks, what did GEOTUS say about the chinese biological warfare attack (coronavirus) that has the mouth breathers seething?
In times of uncertainty, people gravitate to the strong man (Trump) not the weak man (Bernie). People forget that the violence and uncertainty over ISIS back in 2015/2016 was one of the things that first drew people to Trump.
Follow up tweets:
Do Nothing Democrats were busy wasting their time on the Impeachment Hoax, & anything they could do to make the Republican Party look bad, while I was busy calling early boarder & flight closings, putting us way ahead in our battle with the Coronavirus. Dems called it very wrong!
Congratulations and thank you to our great Vice President & all of the many professionals doing such a fine job at CDC & all other agencies on the Coronavirus situation. Only a very small number in U.S., & China numbers look to be going down. All countries working well together!
Someone ask the Democrats how open borders help us with pandemics exactly.
Also, we have an army of cucks in here downvoting comments. It's been going on all day long now.
Cucks chasing that yuan from Spez.
They love picking Spezs butthole hair out of their teeth after they lick it clean.
They can't get enough of his seepage.
Faecal gases cause burning of facial hair...
First I laughed at your comment, then I laughed harder at your name.
Diversity is the answer to everything, bigot.
Looks like you need a trip to Bernie's re-education center.
We would go, except it isn't diverse enough because they don't have a locker room explicitly for Men.
I wondered. I've seen quite a few trolls as well.
The media really went from 0 to 60 on this. They should have done their jobs and kept people apprised on what's happening, but advise cool heads. I'd say on a scale of 1 to 10, we should be worried at about a 3.
More people have died in Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell than from coronavirus on American soil. Caution is wise, but we'll be fine.
Media are trying to tank the economy in order to stop Drumpf. Bill Maher is giddy with excitement.
Nine people have died so far this year from seasonal flu in my state, but I'm supposed to be panicking about coronavirus because...?
Because the people in your TV told you to, bigot! Orange Man Bad!!!
Just watched a story on my local news about a 62 year old guy that is just getting over having it, he said for him it was like a mild flu...more of a nasty chest cold. They are praying this gets really bad just to make Trump look as bad as possible, which is fucking sick.
Yes. Now accept some more unchecked refugees into your neighborhood ao you can be "enriched" and stricken of your privilege
you filthy bigot
It has a 28 day incubation period (can spread without symptoms, we have no vaccine for it, it can spread via mouth/eyes/nose or by touch, it can survive on surfaces for up to 9 days, and it currently has a 2-10% mortality rate which is magnitudes above the flu.
Then you have the panic it will cause which will probably be worse than the actual virus based on what's going on in Italy.
My question is how did it go from 14 to 28? And if we arent trusting the Chinese on the number of cases, why are we trusting them on the incubation period. That is where the 28 number comes from correct?
People held for 14 days and released got sick. 28 days is the largest gap. Effectively they are learning the effects on the fly and as time goes on. Longer this goes on for the more we learn about it. Some people have a larger delay than others.
We kind of have to rely on Chinese numbers or else we just go in blind. Can't prepare for something that we know little about while ignoring all Chinese data.
Everything you've just said is completely inaccurate. The virus has an incubation period of up to 14 days and most begin showing symptoms around day 5. No estimates I've seen say a 28 day incubation period. The period of time the virus can survive on surfaces is definitively unknown, but is suspected to be only a matter of hours, not nine days. The mortality rate of the coronavirus is up to 3%, not 3-10%.
You're propagating hysteria.
EDIT: So upon researching it further, it appears the notion of a 28 day incubation period is based on a single Chinese man who appeared to exhibit symptoms 27 days after having contact with his infected sister. A single ambiguous case does not warrant a definitive statement that the virus has an incubation period of 28 days, and the official information from WHO and the CDC is that the incubation period is at most 14 days with 3-5 days being the usual period before symptoms begin presenting.
If it can happen for one than it can happen to many. Its absurd to underestimate it.
It sucks that I booked a vacation to Italy. Lucky I already bought cancellation insurance, but I'm hoping things will have blown over in a few months.
It will probably hit, then hit them again, then be over. However that 28 day incubation period is a nightmare.
This is the only answer. They're trying to trigger a panic selloff .
I hope there's an agency / agent in the government that is man enough to take them to task for this. It seems that attempting to manipulate the stock market would be against some law.
Don't be fat.?.? Well that ship has sailed.
It sure will be sad when the Trump Boomerang strikes again and the homeless in West Coast cities start getting assed out by the virus and we have to round them up into quarantine for the safety of the community.
Armchair virologists and people who think Fallout 4 is about to become a reality
What really was stupid is that even popular sentiment on T_D was buying this garbage until a couple of weeks ago. "MSM is downplaying it! China is covering it up! These ALL CAPS Coronavirus fearmongering titles almost daily even on this forum.
It was never even remotely close to being a pandemic if you looked at the numbers. Too many people buying the hype.
Communist Party secretary literally told Hubei province leaders to stop reporting new cases, but Glorious China is definitely not covering it up.
I presented that poorly, I meant that these talking points were being used to spread this resident evil style worldwide-pandemic idea in people's minds. China naturally covers stuff up because they're obviously all about covering their asses and making themselves look good.
I wanted to point out that this wasn't any indication that it was a worldwide threat. It was just being parroted to spread fear that "hundreds of thousands of people had died" and that people in western countries would soon be dying off in droves - without any proof whatsoever.
Oh hi! Good to see you here. I subscribe there and I agree with you.
It's funny how they ignored the virus when it was in China and people were posting videos of the CCP rounding up citizens and throwing them in boxes.... and then within a day all of a sudden it's Coronavirus 24/7.
I'm not exactly certain what their slant is; but, there's definitely an agenda with the virus.
I keep reading all over the place people saying "be a shame if it started hitting Trumps rallys" These people have sick twisted thoughts and ideas
Ah yes, the flyover lower- and middle-classes, well-known for close contact with Chinese business moguls.
I think people should be seriously concerned about this. It's not going to end civilization but the store runs and fights will be real. Likely to have areas isolated so no supplies moving. It has between a 2%-10% mortality rate according to Chinese numbers.
I think the mortality rate will be significantly lower if they can keep the spread down. Maybe even less than 2%. The problem is when everyone gets it at once and ~10% need a hospital bed. There just aren't that many hospital beds in a city. When the hospitals have to start turning people away, then the mortality rate will go up.
I don’t know why you got downvoted, it’s not the virus that I am worried about it’s panic in the general population - it’s a very serious situation not concern trolling but it’s better to be over prepared then under prepared.
I've got extra canned food, beans and rice, a full freezer, masks, flu medicine, and asthma medicine. Also stocked up big-time on hand sanitizer and those sanitizing wipes.
It probably over-preperation but I feel a lot better after doing it, and there's really no downside to being prepared. Here in the Midwest I've never done hurricane prep :-)
Most of the US does not have the same population density or public transportation as China. We also have better hospitals, less air pollution, and fewer smokers.
Even if it does hit us, I’m not sure it will hit us nearly as hard. The economic impact of all these Asian countries being hit might be a problem though.
At least we’ll be fine on food, though stocking up is never a bad idea...
Some people barely have a week of food or only a few days. I normally keep too much food for variety so I just had to get a few things.
100% on the hospitals, but on population density, Wuhan and Hubei province are definitely more more comparable to American metropolitan areas than Beijing.
SF is screwed though.
Mortality rates in the US and other fully developed countries will be substantially lower than in China.
Probably. Still if its 1% then its far worse than any flu.
Depends who's getting it in the first place. If it's mostly the very elderly and/or seriously ill to begin with, the true impact of a "high" death rates would be much less than if the total incidence includes a lot of young and healthy people. It sounds kind of callous, but it's reality.
If most of the deaths from coronavirus are simply acceleration of the deaths of people who were going to die in the next year or two anyway, there's little concrete impact on society. Very different from HIV/AIDS in the early years before effective treatments were developed -- that was killing mostly people who were young, healthy, and economically productive at the time they became infected.
It has killed quite a few Chinese doctors and nurses in their 20's and 30's.
Yes, but they had extensive occupational exposure (quite likely accompanied by occupational exposure to other infectious agents, creating co-morbidity factors), were likely weakened by sleep deprivation, and may have had other risk factors that are more prevalent among young Chinese professionals (e.g. poor nutrition, heavy smoking) than among young professionals in fully developed countries. There has also been some speculation that there may be some ethnic factor that increases susceptibility and/or severity in Asians.
Obviously there's still a lot to learn, but I'll be extremely surprised if coronovirus starts killing off previously healthy young and middle-aged adults in the US in any significant numbers.
I know 24 yr olds in worse shape than 60 yr olds because of a lack of ANY exercise along with a McDonalds and Ramen noodles diet. Probably kill them then cause a lot of panic because people look at age not lifestyle.
I noticed this, too. Some leftist douchebag on Tucker the other day sounded like an NPC in an infinite loop, he only could talk about "this science-denying President" and how we "can't trust his response to Coronavirus because he denies climate change!"
Muh russia and muh peach mints didn’t work, now they have to throw the “muh outbreak” spaghetti at the wall. Enemies of the people!
This is all Trump's fault because he thought about reducing the budget for the CDC at some point, so clearly this outbreak in China is all on him! #Trumpvirus
/s
They don't have any narrative. They're dead.
Info for anyone interested or worried about the Coronavirus, what actions the USA has taken, what actions they may take in the future and if you have any risk factors: 1/31/2020: White House Proclamation on Suspension of Entry as Immigrants and Nonimmigrants of Persons who Pose a Risk of Transmitting 2019 Novel Coronavirus: https://www.whitehouse.gov/…/proclamation-suspension-entry…/
Coronavirus tracker: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/…/opsdashboa…/index.html…
Future actions when needed: “While aggressive measures such as travel restrictions and the first federal quarantine in a half century have probably slowed the arrival of the coronavirus in the U.S., Messonnier said even more intrusive steps will likely be needed.”
“Those measures could include school closings, workplace shutdowns and canceling large gatherings and public events, she warned.”
Link: https://www.npr.org/…/health-officials-warn-americans-to-st… Confirmed cases of coronavirus in Chinese population (it is slowing down there): 78,064 Population of China: 1,386,000,000 Percentage of Chinese people infected: 0.0000563232 Please check my math.
The elderly and immunocompromised are the most susceptible to developing serious illness from it.
World Health Organization - for educational and preventative measures (perhaps allay your fears a little?) https://www.who.int/emergen…/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019
YES!!!
China is not fully reporting its numbers. Wuhan has like 9 Million people and there are sick everywhere. Maybe 78,064 admitted to hospital (who knows how many turned away).
This virus can have a 14-28 day period of being contagious without symptoms. So outbreaks are heavily delayed. It can survive on surfaces up to 9 days and can spread through touch or by airborne mucus membrane.
The 28 day incubation period is the real problem. One person could spread it to thousands and then the hospitals get hit will get bombarded. Heck I'm currently sick with one of the yearly things and having a second virus happen at the same time could be bad.
That was one single case though. The symptoms appear 1-14 days for 99% of people
Nancy Messonier is Rod Rosenstiens sister, just some food for thought
That may backfire horribly in 2 ways. If everyone panics, buys supplies while its still in supply, then the virus hits then it won't be that bad and people will be ready during Trumps presidency. If Trump manages to somehow stop the worst virus promoted by the media in history than he's a god emperor that can fight plagues.
Like usual the left is panicking like idiots.
Exactly this
It's great to watch their internal struggle. Check out the wutang subs, they have been trained to hate Tucker Carlson, but they had to admit he's been doing good reporting.
Pull their license.
Watch the coronavirus in real time Plague Inc Style: https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
Also buy supplies before the store runs happen and supply lines shut down. Be prepared Italy has already begun lockdowns to prevent the spread (too late).
Tim Pool a few days ago about Italy store runs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc8sJhOETUo
You sound like a mad leftist. Stop being rude.
The media is the root of all evil in this country. When media cheers for the dow dropping as a way to hurt him its quite pathetic how deranged they all are. I really do respect Trump for how he was able to really expose these people for the corrupt POS they all are.
I propose we rename this to Winnie the Flu in honor of Chairman Wi's efforts to contain the virus: https://postmediavancouversun2.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/china-winnie-the-pooh.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=266&h=199&crop=1
I love it! Winnie the Flu.
Amen! It’s going to seriously trash 3rd world countries where the healthcare still sucks, but most of the west will weather the storm just fine.
Our leftists would have us all believe that Australia is going to be all but destroyed by Coronavirus.
Uhh no... so far we have recorded a total of around 23 cases, 19 of which have recovered. The remaining infected are not only isolated, they’re being very well taken care of.
I mean, neither are Italy or South Korea, but yes, they have their own problems.
Problems similar to the Leftist hubs most at risk in the US. Ahem.
The left: "We need open borders."
Also the left: "OMG President Drumpf doesn't know how to handle a viral pandemic!"
Fuckin.... honk
There needs to be repercussions for this. It's like yelling fire in a theatre.
The market needs to grow a pair and stop getting the vapors every time CNN makes up a new story.
CNN SUCKS!
China released the virus where and when it did on purpose to cause maximum damage to Trump in 2020. To fight the trade war they could not just ban exports to the US and get away with it. But the bioweapon deployed against their own people provided the perfect cover to hurt the American economy. The months of information suppression was not done to save themselves embarrassment. It was done to intentionally maximize the damage to Trump's machine and also to get the virus to spread as far and wide as possible so China could come out on top.
Hard to imagine China coming out on top of this. They rely on the international trade that's pulling away from them. They have citizens intentionally spreading the virus as an act of rebellion, trying to stress the system to hurt the Communist Party. Their information suppression is revealed left and right, the complicity of the lab, and suspicion about the deaths of whistleblowers. It's an embarrassment.
I think since the chinese communists are fully evil gangsters who care more about their own money and power than human life, they would be more than happy to kill a hundred thousand or more regular chinese people if they were sure it would result in Trump losing 2020. It is admittedly a stretch, but this is clown world after all.
You could have made a similar logical argument about liddle adam shcitt before the impeachment thing over the Ukraine call - "they won't impeach, since there's obviously nothing illegal about the call with Ukraine's president, it would only hurt their chances in 2020. They wouldn't do it since it will obviously help Trump".
Now I know those two things aren't the same at all. I'm not saying releasing a bioweapon on your own people to "Get drumpf" is in the same ballpark as filing bogus impeachment articles to "get drumf" but I'm saying the logic of "they wouldn't do something that will overall hurt them in the end" doesn't always apply when the players are irrational or operating on wrong assumptions. And I think we could both agree that the chinese communists and the adam schitts are both operating on wrong assumptions.... at the very least.
I gotta say that Tim Poole isn't any better in this regard. I love his political commentary, but the dude is inciting panic and is now hocking prepper nonsense for money. Wtf is he doing? He's discrediting his own work....
You have to look at what happened in Italy over the last week, once we get community spreading without the ability to index where it came from it’s going move fast - think of it like a DDOS attack on our medical system
California just had their first incident without a clear source. Its spreading.
The Washington Post posted that bombshell headline....and then 2 sentences in "the CDC is unclear if the individual had any contact with anyone traveling from so and so" ...and the person happens to be located right next to the Air force base where people are being quarantined.
So while it didnt have a "clear source", the sensationalized headline made it sound like they were sure the person had no contact with a person traveling to China, but that's not the case. They dont even know. Then the person happens to be located right next to the Air Force Base. Pretty big coincidence.
I sure hope it can't be carried by the wind...
Already known to have limited aerosol spread, no?
No. Almost nothing is known. All information is suspect.
I do not know. Seen the Chinese spraying disinfectant via drones in Wuhan for some reason. I bet they wouldn't say anything if it was.
I hate the fucking media more than I have ever, or will ever hate anything.
CNN IS ASS HOE!
The only honest thing that anyone can say in this moment is that no one knows anything.
I'm sure the virologists in the labs (US, Canada and China) where it was created know quite a bit about it, but they'll never tell.
Anyone here been watching infowars?
Watch it be gone by April like Trump said. Watch the markets rebound and smash new records as the DNC heads into it's brokered convention. Watch as the first debate everyone already forgot about Corona like they did about Swineflu and all that's left is "miraculous stock rally!" being shouted from every news paper as Bloomberg gets the nomination and finally puts to rest any lingering doubts about the left being for sale.
I doubt it'll be gone by April, but I think things will have calmed down and be fairly business as usual by then.
The Japanese have it right: The shit is too infectious to stop, but isn't nearly as dangerous if you catch it early and can provide treatment. If you can slow it down enough that your medical infrastructure doesn't get overloaded then it effectively is just a very nasty flu.
April seems much too optimistic, I've gotta say. Quite a CCP talking point. Maybe we can stop confirmed US cases by then, but some relatively serious countries are getting so hosed that's just too fast.
I based this on the fact that the FED will meet the 17th of march and China is reopening factories already.
Don't get me wrong, the RECOVERY will be done by April 1st, we won't be out of the woods for months regarding the virus itself but the trend will be back to upward growth.
The DemocRat is acting like this is the break they've been waiting for.
So let me get this straight: China eats gained fucking Bat Soup and contracts this. They unknowingly spread the virus around. Once China finds out about it, they keep it on the hush until it spills over into other countries. Italy is now on lock down, the Olympics may get cancelled, and a few people in the US have it, and it’s all Trump’s fault?
Heck if it stays in California that would be good.
Funny how they went from doing everything to downplay concerns as racist fearmongering about Glorious China, to direct fearmongering themselves as soon as they'd devised a way to use it politically.
libs: vote for giant meteor to wipe out humanity over trump https://time.com/5780556/meteor-poll-trump-new-hampshire/
also libs: care about humanity getting wiped out by coronavirus
This is the afterlife. We all died from net neutrality years ago/s.
Y2K got me, man.
Prepare for the worst, but hope for the best. I joined sam’s club and bought some stuff in bulk, stuff I needed anyway like soap, toilet paper, and water. It wasn’t busy.
I really think the dims are importing and spreading this virus just to make Trump look bad. I mean look where this all started. Where it was stolen from and where the first US cases are. Good ole commiefornia.
What was it that Candice Owens Farmer said in a House hearing?: Every 4 years all democrats have to offer are handouts & fear.
Boy, are they upping that "strategy". I'm a normal-enough human being & I cannot understand how anyone wouldn't feel embarrassed knowing it's obvious to you & EVERYONE ELSE that you're embarrassing yourself. I will say this, though; we've been seriously worried about the virus at my house... until the "news" & democrats (Rod Rosenstein's sister at the CDC, initially) suddenly started talking about this with their hair on fire after banning ZeroHedge, labeling everyone a "conspiracy theorist" for saying China's full of shit, & now going after Rush for saying everything's going to be okay when they've been demonizing any worry about this for months.
Lastly, I'll say, they keep talking about how the sky is falling, because we're out of masks. THEY KNOW DAMN WELL US "CONSPIRACY THEORISTS" HAVE BEEN POINTING OUT THAT MASKS DON'T HELP ANYWAY!
Handouts & fear, handouts & fear.
Funny, they started the "don't bother with masks" thing back when this was all a racist panic instead of an opportunity to shill for socialized medicine.
same as it ever was....
seriously, a constant stream of "reeee! the sky is falling! the icebergs are melting! net neutrality will kill us all! and half of us are already dead from biden's guns!"
spez to say: it must be utterly exhausting to be on the other side of maga. i bet if we take away their energy drinks, the dems would collapse in on themselves.
How the fuck are people blaming this on Trump?
'Cause not enough healthcare gibs. Never waste an opportunity to insist socialism is the proper answer. Just look at how well China, Iran, and Italy are doing! lol
If it fails to get a foothold in the US vs. all these other countries, it serves as an endorsement of our existing system, and they can't have that. Have to convince people ahead of time that it will be worse, and then claim it was just too late thanks to those damn Repiglicans when it fails.
TDS is one hell of a delusion and the NPC's are programmed to always blame Trump.
I’ve been out of the loop for a few weeks, what did GEOTUS say about the chinese biological warfare attack (coronavirus) that has the mouth breathers seething?
Couldn’t agree more all this market hysteria is the only the democrats feel gets them “in.” Thats demented.
In times of uncertainty, people gravitate to the strong man (Trump) not the weak man (Bernie). People forget that the violence and uncertainty over ISIS back in 2015/2016 was one of the things that first drew people to Trump.