The MSM always just dismisses Trump’s internet supporter’s energy as “racism” and “rage”, which is obvious bs. I always see tons of Trump memes and comments everywhere, and online his supporters are always the most passionate. Unfortunately, there aren't that many MAGA/KAG guys around in my area that I can talk to and discuss ideas with, and I also don’t have the time to spend all day browsing the forums online, so I’ve always been curious about what got other guys out there excited about Donald. I have a bunch of questions, feel free to answer whatever you want.
What do you think the best way to reason with a liberal friend/relative is? How do you know which media sources are real, and which are fake news? What do you guys think about Republicans like Mitch Mcconnel, Lindsey Graham, etc, those guys have been in congress a very long time, were they part of the deep state/swamp or were they always good guys? What exactly is the deep state? What gets you excited to talk about him online? How do you respond to liberals who don’t trust him? Before Donald made America great again, was America just ok, or was it bad for you? How much time do you think you spend online that is related to him? How much has YOUR life actually gotten better since he became POTUS? A little? A lot?
Thank you for the analogy.
Your point about the lack of clear moral boundaries is a good one. When I discuss politics with hardcore Democrats or hardcore Republicans, and I ask them to define corruption, their answer is usually just whoever is in the party they don't like, which is obviously a silly and simplistic way to view things. One thing I have noticed, is that just about everyone agrees that the absurd amount of money that both Democrats and Republicans can make from corporate contributions and the lobbying industry is a serious problem, and is a primary contributor of the intense corruption in Washington DC. The Supreme Court Ruling on Citizens United Vs. FEC was a pretty big enabler for for these kinds of political gifts.
POTUS has been a strong ally of business, and as a result has received massive support from various interest groups, according to the Federal Election Commission and the Center for Responsible Politics. Some of these contributions would not be possible without the Citizens United Ruling, so for some Trump supporters I think that it raises some questions about whether corporate donations and SuperPAC funding should be more strictly regulated or if its better to just allow Trump to use his business savvy to raise as much cash as he can from various industries without having his hands being tied.
I've never donated to a political campaign before Trump, and I'm sure he has brought many first timers like me into the fold. The great thing about capitalism and conservatism is that you can be pro-worker and pro-business at the same time. Liberal propaganda would have you believe that trickle down economics is a debunked conspiracy theory. However when you take down barriers and let businesses thrive unhindered in economy it's so much better for the skilled worker. With more jobs filled the skilled workers dry up. Demand for the skilled worker goes up and you start to feel like a superstar athlete entering free agency. Young people entering the work force don't get it because they aren't a skilled worker....yet. Enter liberal activist professors and teachers preying on this vulnerable minds.
I agree with you about the duality of being pro worker and pro business simultaneously. Capitalism always works the best when as few obstacles as possible are in the way to prevent it from taking off.
My problem is primarily with industry subsidization and government sponsored bailouts. Both Democrats and Republicans jump to the rescue of any mismanaged, antiquated, farm, factory, or coal plant whenever votes are on the line. Trump has done nothing to stop this, and has recently dumped significant amounts of tax payer money into subsiding the farm industry and coal industry. Coal can't compete with natural gas and foreign oil. Its why so many coal mines are failing. Trump has lifted almost all of the coal regulations but right now foreign oil is so cheap and so plentiful that he's just tied coals dead carcass to the economy. The same is true for farms. Farmers can't survive right now because we have a market surplus. That is normal. That means that many farms will be forced to close, but is not the taxpayers job to sustain them when they are no longer needed. I understand that many communities are dependent on the survival of these businesses, but capitalism can't be interfered with, natural evolution of the market happens, and industries that are no longer sustainable die naturally in order to meet the laws of supply and demand. If people absolutely need their factory job or coal plant job in order to survive, government benefits should be robust enough to help them until they can get back on their feet. And not surprisingly, these massive corporations that need the government to swoop in and save them(such as G.M or Bank of America) often contribute handsomely to political campaigns, further encouraging government intervention in a ideally free market system.
Really, that's my main problem with Trump. He promised to allow American capitalism to flourish, but instead he's bailing out companies that should naturally die(using our tax money) so that the people reliant on those jobs will vote for him and using the Federal Reserve to adjust interest rates to adapt to market conditions(again, direct government intervention in the economy). Its disappointing. I support so much of what he does, but I think that in the long term continuing the "normal" political bailout routine is a recipe for a future recession.