All I'm saying is that people who are different from you and me are still potential Trump voters and it's unwise to alienate them unnecessarily. Is that such a contemptible point of view ?
From the comments :
"It was Trump's response to the Orlando Night Club shooting versus Hillary's response that sealed the deal for me. Donald Trump was the one who was more likely to protect me form islamic extremists and Hillary was the one more likely to act as their apologist. "
Are there dysfunctional LGBT people ? Sure. Dysfunctional people are everywhere. Are they all irredeemable ? Apparently not.
One of the wedges the fake news uses to drive people away from looking at Trump is the lie that he hates/dehumanizes gays.
This thread features Trump supporters displaying and defending the same caricature of intolerance the fake news accuses Trump of having.
Trump said, in re: gays, "some people like spaghetti, some people like steak". That's as deep as he goes with it.
What the 'all or nothing' thinking on this thread doesn't appreciate (but Trump does) is that there is a huge number of people who are not strictly heterosexual who have no interest in pushing their lifestyle on anyone else. The militant gays are way more visible... because they're militant. The silent majority of gays want to be left alone and are decent people and you're acting like all gays want to push Trans story time on toddlers and that's not the case.
Then the silent majority need to get the fuck off of their asses and start speaking up. You let a bunch of militant freaks speak for you and represent you, that is YOUR fault.
If people choose to vote for Trump based on how offended they may or may not get at their supporters, THEN I DONT WANT THEIR VOTE. I don’t give a shit about their feelings. they need to vote for Trump because he’s not a communist lunatic like most of the Democrats are, and he’s making this country great again.
And all I'm saying is someone making a joke calling trash people trash on thedonald.win does not magically alienate all those people.
you don't want their votes?
Sure, it's great that they're walking away from the Democrats but that does not mean the Republicans need to become the party of pandering to every minority or gay.
someone... calling ... [suicidally depressed, wretchedly unhappy and abused] people trash on thedonald.win does not magically alienate all those people.
Hmm. Yeah, actually... it does.
When they become aware of it.
Speaking from personal experience with my liberal friends.
It's not magic, it's elementary emotional intelligence. No one will give their loyalty to people they don't feel they can trust, or whom they can't respect.
One of the wedges the fake news uses to drive people away from looking at Trump is the lie that he hates/dehumanizes gays.
This thread features Trump supporters displaying and defending the same caricature of intolerance the fake news accuses Trump of having.
Trump said, in re: gays, "some people like spaghetti, some people like steak". That's as deep as he goes with it.
What the 'all or nothing' thinking on this thread doesn't appreciate is that there is a huge number of people who are not strictly heterosexual who have no interest in pushing their lifestyle on anyone else. The militant gays are way more visible... because they're militant. The silent majority of gays want to be left alone and are decent people and you're acting like all gays want to push Trans story time on toddlers and that's not the case.
It's not magic, it's elementary emotional intelligence. No one will give their loyalty to people they don't feel they can trust, or whom they can't respect.
I'm not sure which side you were on before Trump became President, but we've been hearing people like you saying stuff like this ever since Trump decided to run. From pussy grabbing to Mexican rapists, we've heard people like you telling us nonstop that Trump will never succeed if he does anything but pander to your liberal friends.
Newsflash, Trump is President despite your liberal friends. If you want to argue Trump's policies to them to try and win their vote that's great, but I've already said I'm not going to demand people on here cater their speech and jokes to suit your leftist bernie bro friends.
Everything Trump does is selling Trump: the rallies, his press talks getting in the helicopter, the tweets.
Saying "the trash took itself out" when a transexual commits suicide doesn't sell Trump, so he wouldn't say it.
The pussy grabbing/Mexican rapists stuff wasn't the end of the world because for every person who reacted negatively, there was 1.x others like you and me who thought: "at last, a real human being, who says out loud, what everyone is thinking, is running for office, and who cares if it sounds a little strong, because it's true".
The difference is, Trump would never call this person trash. You're taking an indefensible position and claiming that it's ok because it's like something Trump would say... but it isn't. Because unlike the pussy grabbing comment, there's no defense for saying this human being was trash, because it's not true for people of good will.
Trump says truth out loud, what most common sense people think, but often don't because it's 'politically incorrect' and the SJWs will make you suffer.
Just look at all the other comments down thread.
Most people in this thread are not gleeful about this suicide. They are not gleeful, not because glee is politically incorrect, or gays are too sensitive and we have to pander to them, but because it's needlessly negative and just off-putting to the average person. It's not emotionally intelligent.
I'm not arguing for pandering. I'm arguing against people being a dick when some miserable person offs themselves.
He gloats when we kill a terrorist, not when an American commits suicide.
Because Trump's not a dick. He's a winner. Winners make good things happen. Like convincing people to vote for Trump by showing them what winning looks like.
You know, like #walkaway. Started by that fag, and endorsed by some trans people.
All I'm saying is that people who are different from you and me are still potential Trump voters and it's unwise to alienate them unnecessarily. Is that such a contemptible point of view ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWwBVbgf8CM&feature=youtu.be&t=83 when she told people at the Trump rally that she was a democrat, she was welcomed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4_sogz42Y0
From the comments : "It was Trump's response to the Orlando Night Club shooting versus Hillary's response that sealed the deal for me. Donald Trump was the one who was more likely to protect me form islamic extremists and Hillary was the one more likely to act as their apologist. "
Are there dysfunctional LGBT people ? Sure. Dysfunctional people are everywhere. Are they all irredeemable ? Apparently not.
Are you going to tell these people:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTwsMvFBGQY
you don't want their votes?
I refuse to pander to a group who threatens my way of life.
I refuse to pander to a group who threatens my way of life.
One of the wedges the fake news uses to drive people away from looking at Trump is the lie that he hates/dehumanizes gays.
This thread features Trump supporters displaying and defending the same caricature of intolerance the fake news accuses Trump of having.
Trump said, in re: gays, "some people like spaghetti, some people like steak". That's as deep as he goes with it.
What the 'all or nothing' thinking on this thread doesn't appreciate (but Trump does) is that there is a huge number of people who are not strictly heterosexual who have no interest in pushing their lifestyle on anyone else. The militant gays are way more visible... because they're militant. The silent majority of gays want to be left alone and are decent people and you're acting like all gays want to push Trans story time on toddlers and that's not the case.
Then the silent majority need to get the fuck off of their asses and start speaking up. You let a bunch of militant freaks speak for you and represent you, that is YOUR fault.
If people choose to vote for Trump based on how offended they may or may not get at their supporters, THEN I DONT WANT THEIR VOTE. I don’t give a shit about their feelings. they need to vote for Trump because he’s not a communist lunatic like most of the Democrats are, and he’s making this country great again.
And all I'm saying is someone making a joke calling trash people trash on thedonald.win does not magically alienate all those people.
Sure, it's great that they're walking away from the Democrats but that does not mean the Republicans need to become the party of pandering to every minority or gay.
Hmm. Yeah, actually... it does. When they become aware of it.
Speaking from personal experience with my liberal friends.
It's not magic, it's elementary emotional intelligence. No one will give their loyalty to people they don't feel they can trust, or whom they can't respect.
One of the wedges the fake news uses to drive people away from looking at Trump is the lie that he hates/dehumanizes gays.
This thread features Trump supporters displaying and defending the same caricature of intolerance the fake news accuses Trump of having.
Trump said, in re: gays, "some people like spaghetti, some people like steak". That's as deep as he goes with it.
What the 'all or nothing' thinking on this thread doesn't appreciate is that there is a huge number of people who are not strictly heterosexual who have no interest in pushing their lifestyle on anyone else. The militant gays are way more visible... because they're militant. The silent majority of gays want to be left alone and are decent people and you're acting like all gays want to push Trans story time on toddlers and that's not the case.
I'm not sure which side you were on before Trump became President, but we've been hearing people like you saying stuff like this ever since Trump decided to run. From pussy grabbing to Mexican rapists, we've heard people like you telling us nonstop that Trump will never succeed if he does anything but pander to your liberal friends.
Newsflash, Trump is President despite your liberal friends. If you want to argue Trump's policies to them to try and win their vote that's great, but I've already said I'm not going to demand people on here cater their speech and jokes to suit your leftist bernie bro friends.
Here's the simplest way I can put it.
Everything Trump does is selling Trump: the rallies, his press talks getting in the helicopter, the tweets.
Saying "the trash took itself out" when a transexual commits suicide doesn't sell Trump, so he wouldn't say it.
The pussy grabbing/Mexican rapists stuff wasn't the end of the world because for every person who reacted negatively, there was 1.x others like you and me who thought: "at last, a real human being, who says out loud, what everyone is thinking, is running for office, and who cares if it sounds a little strong, because it's true".
The difference is, Trump would never call this person trash. You're taking an indefensible position and claiming that it's ok because it's like something Trump would say... but it isn't. Because unlike the pussy grabbing comment, there's no defense for saying this human being was trash, because it's not true for people of good will.
Trump says truth out loud, what most common sense people think, but often don't because it's 'politically incorrect' and the SJWs will make you suffer.
Just look at all the other comments down thread. Most people in this thread are not gleeful about this suicide. They are not gleeful, not because glee is politically incorrect, or gays are too sensitive and we have to pander to them, but because it's needlessly negative and just off-putting to the average person. It's not emotionally intelligent.
I'm not arguing for pandering. I'm arguing against people being a dick when some miserable person offs themselves.
He gloats when we kill a terrorist, not when an American commits suicide.
Because Trump's not a dick. He's a winner. Winners make good things happen. Like convincing people to vote for Trump by showing them what winning looks like.
You know, like #walkaway. Started by that fag, and endorsed by some trans people.