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Harambe 30 points ago +34 / -4

Their politics matter. If they vote to radically change the country, they do NOT love America.

Immigrants vote 2/3rds left wing. We wont have any representation if we keep importing people who vote against us.

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no_step_on_snek 3 points ago +4 / -1

The know-nothing (a real thing, look it up) nativist party said the same thing during the 1800s. Every one of us had immigrant ancestors. They don't vote left wing because demographics is destiny, they vote left wing because the subversives spend a lot of effort courting them. If you want immigrants who love America you have to spend the effort upholding the idea of American exceptionalism, something sorely lacking in anti-left media outlets. As long as we maintain a reactionary stance this cannot be done.

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Harambe 3 points ago +3 / -0

Immigrating yourself into a minority is not a winning strategy. We know how they vote. Immigration should be on an as-needed basis. US citizenship is not a human right.

Until we can take care of our own, we shouldn't be bringing in more people. Especially those who will, by default, vote against classic American values.

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no_step_on_snek 3 points ago +4 / -1

You're right about immigration, but my point is "demographics is destiny" is defeatism, it isn't grounded in historical fact, nobody "by default" votes any way, it is up to us to sell our ideas.

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Harambe 2 points ago +2 / -0

Many of them simply want as much free shit as possible. That's why they came to America in the first place.

I'm not a defeatist, but we need to have common sense when all of our border states are turning purple or blue.

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Kolob 1 point ago +1 / -0

Very true.

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I_Am_My_Own_God 1 point ago +3 / -2

Dude most of these legal immigrants aren't voting democrat. My Venezuelan neighbor who immigrated here 2 years ago legally said there ain't no way in hell he's voting for anyone but trump.

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Harambe 2 points ago +3 / -1

Your anecdote doesn't speak for the 70-80% that vote left wing.

https://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/3-reasons-the-left-wants-evermore-immigrants/

do some research.

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Ilhan_Omar -1 points ago +3 / -4

Then import voters from Venesula, Cuba, Eastern Europe, the 5 or so no name right wing African countries, India, and Japan.

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AmericanPigDog 7 points ago +8 / -1

Indians vote as far left wing as blacks do. Their average IQ is lower too. Venezuelans can stay and deal with the bullshit they created. We've got enough fucking idiots who are trying to lead us down that road, and if there's anything immigrants from central and southern America have shown us it's that they're going to come here and vote for the same socialist bullshit they just had to run away from.

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Ilhan_Omar 1 point ago +2 / -1

I listed India and Japan last for a reason. Asia is the most right wing devoid continent by a wide margin. If you want to start down the dark road of Wilsonism with that racial IQ nonsense, then you need to read up how the right wing deep state was burned down in the nineteen teens. You are echoing the scientific fallacy known as the "The Preservation of Favored Races"
I want our legal immigrants to be pedes. I don't give a fuck what they look like or what imaginary sky god they pray too.

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AmericanPigDog 2 points ago +2 / -0

If you want to start down the dark road of Wilsonism with that racial IQ nonsense

Race is an accurate predictor of IQ, and to argue otherwise is just pointless.

Asia is the most right wing devoid continent by a wide margin

Yeah? Then tell me why they don't vote that way when they come here?

I want our legal immigrants to be pedes.

So do I. Why are you trying to accomplish this by bringing in demographics that always vote left then? Do you treat your headaches by slamming your head into a wall?

You are echoing the scientific fallacy known as the "The Preservation of Favored Races"

No, I'm taking a look at the state of America and saying, "Wait a second. Every single one of these groups that we first allowed to come in 1965 has consistently voted so far to the left that we are about to have a civil war because our differences are irreconcilable." I'm just not afraid to bring race into the equation when it is an accurate predictor of certain things.

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AmericanPigDog 2 points ago +2 / -0

If you want to start down the dark road of Wilsonism with that racial IQ nonsense

Race is an accurate predictor of IQ, and to argue otherwise is just pointless.

Asia is the most right wing devoid continent by a wide margin

Yeah? Then tell me why they don't vote that way when they come here?

I want our legal immigrants to be pedes.

So do I. Why are you trying to accomplish this by bringing in demographics that always vote left then? Do you treat your headaches by slamming your head into a wall?

You are echoing the scientific fallacy known as the "The Preservation of Favored Races"

No, I'm taking a look at the state of America and saying, "Wait a second. Every single one of these groups that we first allowed to come in 1965 has consistently voted so far to the left that we are about to have a civil war because our differences are irreconcilable." I'm just not afraid to bring race into the equation when it is an accurate predictor of certain things.