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Prom3th3us 89 points ago +91 / -2

I’m really sick of everybody misusing the word science.

-Science is not a consensus (looking at the Pluto vote here) -Science is not theory creation (that’s literally the opposite. you’ll see why) -Science is not probabilities (sorry quantum) -Science is not even data observation (although this is a needed portion)

SCIEINCE is literally “knowledge” and specifically distinct from “belief”. This means science can never be achieved if there is any doubt. 99% sure is not science. It happened one time and I’m not sure if it will happen again: Not science. “In my scientific opinion”: not science.

-Science is only one thing: PROVING theories WRONG through experimentation. (And not some bogus paper theory so you have an easy win. A real theory that people really believe. I’m not sure if you caught that: science knocks down people’s beliefs. Science is the opposite of belief. Science is the opposite of how these people use it)

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Bubba_Nooo 9 points ago +9 / -0

You're on the right track, but i think you definition is incomplete. I highly recommend Vox Day's breakdown of science into it's base components.

Scientody: the process (hypothesis, experiment, and replication)

Scientage: the knowledge base (the accumulation of previous scientific discovery)

Scientistry: the profession (the establishment that practices, both in academia and industry).

Current big S "Science" is the combination of all three. The knowledge base, assembled through the process, completed mostly by those in the profession.

Our current problem in the scientific community is a moral one; it does not work without actors working under clear moral guidelines. Ironically, I suspect the current reproduceability crisis and pervasive influence of money in science is a direct result of the secularization of the industry. Many of the great discoveries of history were produced by those trying to understand Gods truth.

Edit: Formatting (still getting used to .winning)

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BeauBidenBrainTumor 0 points ago +4 / -4

"Secularization of the industry"? By definition, science is agnostic and demands rigorous evidence of positive claims. Religion is anti-science in the sense that it requires belief without evidence - euphemistically called "faith" in an attempt to sound virtuous. 93% of the National Academy of Science are atheists or agnostics for precisely this reason.

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Bubba_Nooo 2 points ago +2 / -0

Many men smarter than us have had no problem holding faith in God while practicing science.

We have reached a point where reproduciblity is so bad a coin flip is often more reliable. The body of scientific knowledge has become corrupt due to the desire for status and money.

"93% of the National Academy of Science are atheists or agnostics for precisely this reason."

This is consensus, not science. Modern day "Science!" has become it's own religion...