This is absolutely true. Before I realized that the MSM were nothing but ignorance, lies and propaganda, I used to watch/read articles on some topic with which I was knowledgeable and familiar. They always got it seriously wrong.
That was when I realized that the other articles had to be seriously wrong, too.
I'm still suspicious that the Democrats crashed the economy during Bush's terms--especially the last two years--to pave the way for their candidate. Would Obama have actually been elected without the recession?
They needed the Doom and gloom corrupt talk of the Bush years to push his bullshit hope and change. The media of course did what they were supposed to do. Not that the Bush administration wasn't corrupt, but they all are so what's the difference?
bill maher begged for a recession to get trump out
I used to work with a few people like this. It was the most bizarre thing; these men were near retirement age, and were seemingly cheering on a stock market crash.
Holy shit, those comments are 100 times worse than what they were banning people for saying on T_D. How in the fuck is that shit not only allowed but has thousands of upvotes.
People like Tim Pool need to show this kind of stuff. Like not just report what happened to T_D, but show what kind of stuff reddit not only allows BUT UPVOTES
I thought I heard the left cheering when the first person in the U.S. died of Coronavirus because it somehow proved that Trump should be removed from office.
If you have the flu and cough on (infect) one thousand people, one of them will die (0.1% mortality rate).
If you have the Wu Flu and cough on (infect) one thousand people, fifty of them will die (2% observed mortality rate thus far).
The reason 60 thousand people die of the flu annually is because 60 million people get at least one strain of it.
If 60 million people get Kung Flu, 1.2 million people will die.
Normally, I'd say "Hey, just shut down international travel and it never gets in. Nobody gets sick, nobody dies." — but you have have Dhimms in the State Department, Dhimms in the CDC, Dhimms in the state health agencies, and to our north, Canadians that make our dim Dems look like manly men, and to the south complete chaos and zero control over the border (thanks once again to our dim Dems). These are the people who have been striking down laws making it illegal to knowingly infect someone with HIV. These are the people with designated shitting streets in San Francisco like it's India or China (did you know NCOV-19 has been proven to spread through airborne fecal matter?).
We've got a party that seems to deliberately act to reduce herd immunity, that opposes reflexively any measure to keep potentially sick people out, and they run the states where foreign entrants typically enter. I do not trust these people, and I don't think you should either.
friend of mine said this same thing that works in a hospital. "Its the fucking flu, upwards of 60k ppl die from that shit every year in the US and no one bats an eye, give it a fancy name on a certain strain for some propaganda is all this shit is"
They live the lives of power and luxury, selling to us American citizens everyday how much we need them(the government).
Their power and luxury totally depends on American forfeiture of our money to them to trust them to do the right things with our money and taxes.
Not only are they exposing themselves through desperation, but Trump was a high fuck up to their plans.
So them wantingba catastrophe to happen would be a reason to show the people how much we need them. It is self preservation and I get it. But fuckem for doing it in such a low manner. Bunch of selfish, indifferent and indignant group of people.
It is self preservation, but in the worst possible way. People who act like that, and honestly think they're being clever and smart, are 100% narcissists if not outright sociopaths.
To them, the rest of us wide-eyed innocents - the "normies" - are nothing but sheep to be fleeced as much as possible. They all hate Trump with white-hot narcissistic rage because he refuses to play their game, and he refuses because he isn't one of them. He's a normie, too, like the rest of us.
Nothing makes a narcissist rage like a normie refusing to give them what they want. If you're ever had a narcissistic parent, spouse, friend, or boss, you know exactly what I'm talking about. The Democrats are behaving exactly the same way.
Trump once again perfectly describes the situation. This is not the end of the world. Dems do what they do best and spread fear. Stay calm, keep track of things caused by the panic the Dems want to cause, and this will pass.
This! The yearly influenza is much more deadly and claims thousands of lives in the US alone but because it can't be used as a political spear against Trump, it's ignored. Except for a couple isolated cases, i.e. an elderly man in a nursing home who had pre-existing health issues, most all corona cases in the US are recovering. If I caught the damn thing, I'd just stay in my home, enjoy my hobbies and be OK in a week or two. I knock out most colds and viruses in a day or two so this thing scares me about as much as cloudy day.
I do not trust these people, and I don't think you should either.
60 million people get at least one strain of influenza every year, and one in one thousand die, for a total of 60,000 annual deaths to influenza. If 60 million people get Wu Flu, 1,200,000 people will die if the 2% mortality rate holds (we're discounting China's numbers because they're definitely lying and Iran's because they're definitely incompetent).
If I caught the damn thing, I'd just stay in my home, enjoy my hobbies and be OK in a week or two. I knock out most colds and viruses in a day or two so this thing scares me about as much as cloudy day.
If you have the regular flu and cough on a thousand people, one of them dies.
If you have Kung Flu and breathe on a thousand people (remember, it's infectious before symptoms manifest), twenty of them will die.
This isn't something to joke about, and if you get sick and declare yourself better after a week, you're going to kill people. Potentially a lot of people.
Where did you read that I was going to run out and start coughing and breathing on everyone? I would certainly treat it with respect but as the first OP said, "the hysteria is the hoax." I don't trust any "those people " either and I will be cautious and use good common sense as thing continues to spread. I have to, I have young ones around me and I wouldn't jeopardize their safety. But I will also not buy into the hysteria.
The death rates for individuals under 50 years of age is 0.2% or lower. This is really where the flu comparisons come from.
Death rates are also wildly higher for smokers, which seems to be why it is also higher for males in China, because they have higher rates of smoking. Also, if you discount even just Wuhan statistics, the mortality rate goes down by quite a bit, but we'll need more data out of Italy and other first world nations before we can estimate what the mortality rate will be in the US.
So if you aren't 70+ years old and a smoker, statistically you're fine.
First, that isn't how stats works. Second, the first was in his 50s and had another chronic underlying health condition. The sources I can find actually state that the second man to die WAS in his 70s. I cannot find a single source that states they did/did not smoke, but feel free to provide one.
A doctor on infowars said that drug and natural antivirals may be the most effective thing against this until a vaccine is perfected over a long time. A vaccine on a similar strain actually killed more rats than the virus.
Look on Amazon and buy something good for the lungs, like Mullein (comes in tea form or capsules). But really, if you aren't over 50 and have bad health already, you might have little to worry about.
Not really, we see this shit with several mass shootings. It's either city, county state libs. It's on a map and we could overlay voting results and see how it aligns.
Because the economy is Trump's best campaign item. Many other things, but this is his crowning achievement. Bernie will tank it and people will be PO'd as hell.
President Trump is being proven right about building a wall and keeping people who come from God only knows where and being all their ills with them out. Democrats will go down in history as being on the wrong side of it.
Out of one side of their mouths, they want to play this up as if it's the Spanish flu. Out the other side, they talk about how many people have it that we don't know about because the overwhelming majority of the case present as a cold or mild flu. Which is it? Is it super AIDS Ebola and we need to stock up on six months worth of toilet paper, or is it something that only kills the old and the infirmed like most respiratory illnesses?
The press and the political class want attention (advertising audience share) and influence - they spin it any way they can.
Trump wants what is right. He might not always be correct, but the man is working towards actual goals that we all share: a safe and proserous country.
He's right about that. The world has no clue how many visa/immigrants we hand out each year. They base their opinions on their own country's visa/immigration, not being able to fathom the amounts we have (double the second highest amount of Saudi Arabia per year.) I laugh when people in .... oh, I don't know .... Ireland....say they are diverse. Diversity doesn't come in just one skin tone.
'It's just a flu, bro. Less dangerous than the common cold. It's racist to take preventative measures. Let the Chinaman spit in your mouth.' - Eugene Gu, MD
There are people up and down this thread saying the same things; 'Don't take precautions, ignore the dangers completely.'
Trump stated the late to catch onto the story media that's blowing the problem out of proportion and turning it into a "we're all going to die" to cater to "the sky is falling / the world is ending" crowd a hoax. He didn't state the virus itself was a hoax and was working on it before the Demoretards decided to use it at their advantage. Now like always, they are misquoting Trump and pushing their agenda based on hatred and could care less if the virus spreads and millions of Americans die.
I wagering this is a serious miscalculation by the pedocrats, this panic is rocket fuel for the markets. By November the stock market will break records again, you can't keep a good man down.
It makes sense now why Trump did not shake Iran San Fran Nan hand at the SOTU address. She had been in Iran shaking hands with the dead Iranian who died of the China virus.
These people are trying to overthrow the government and need to disband, if this is what the Dem party is now, they are not only selling off America, but selling a race of people as a never ending source of welfare and whippings for anyone that demands it.
I am glad Trump is in office. I had to block some of these news sources that distorted the President's response to the first American dying. I watched it. I find that much of Democrat claims are disproved once they are looked up. They count on people not checking the source, or seeing it for themselves.
The Democrats have only complained about everything that worked. They've offered no solutions and have no plans. Meanwhile the administration has offered a plan.
Don't listen to Democrats and the media complaining about the response while offering no evidence for what they're saying. They're full of shit.
*Orange Mann Amnesia
Upvoting just for Crichton. I really wish he was still here. Wise and thoughtful, and full of good stories.
My favorite author of all time. So utterly brilliant.
This is absolutely true. Before I realized that the MSM were nothing but ignorance, lies and propaganda, I used to watch/read articles on some topic with which I was knowledgeable and familiar. They always got it seriously wrong.
That was when I realized that the other articles had to be seriously wrong, too.
I'm glad there's a term for that, very effective. I'll keep a mental note of "Gell-Mann Amnesia".
I'm still suspicious that the Democrats crashed the economy during Bush's terms--especially the last two years--to pave the way for their candidate. Would Obama have actually been elected without the recession?
It would have made his election harder, but McStain was such a terrible candidate that it probably wouldn't have mattered.
They needed the Doom and gloom corrupt talk of the Bush years to push his bullshit hope and change. The media of course did what they were supposed to do. Not that the Bush administration wasn't corrupt, but they all are so what's the difference?
this^ x1000. they are all on the same side of the coin, uniparty scum
I used to work with a few people like this. It was the most bizarre thing; these men were near retirement age, and were seemingly cheering on a stock market crash.
I mean dudes recruit bulls for their wives so how can this be surprising?
Holy shit, those comments are 100 times worse than what they were banning people for saying on T_D. How in the fuck is that shit not only allowed but has thousands of upvotes.
People like Tim Pool need to show this kind of stuff. Like not just report what happened to T_D, but show what kind of stuff reddit not only allows BUT UPVOTES
Bill mart was such a bitch on Joe Rogan podcast. He was getting super triggered over this guy impersonating him
https://youtu.be/aTU3LO1-jNg
I thought I heard the left cheering when the first person in the U.S. died of Coronavirus because it somehow proved that Trump should be removed from office.
We do need to watch to see if this latest “virus crisis” — are they trying to ride the wave or are they making the wave?
Virus crisis, started as a way for the CCP to Tianamen it’s political dissidents with no one noticing . All propaganda.
Now the left has taken the CCP propaganda to try and hurt trump and to secure funding that was recently removed for sanctuary cities.
‘Coronavirus’ is literally just a common cold
If you have the flu and cough on (infect) one thousand people, one of them will die (0.1% mortality rate).
If you have the Wu Flu and cough on (infect) one thousand people, fifty of them will die (2% observed mortality rate thus far).
The reason 60 thousand people die of the flu annually is because 60 million people get at least one strain of it.
If 60 million people get Kung Flu, 1.2 million people will die.
Normally, I'd say "Hey, just shut down international travel and it never gets in. Nobody gets sick, nobody dies." — but you have have Dhimms in the State Department, Dhimms in the CDC, Dhimms in the state health agencies, and to our north, Canadians that make our dim Dems look like manly men, and to the south complete chaos and zero control over the border (thanks once again to our dim Dems). These are the people who have been striking down laws making it illegal to knowingly infect someone with HIV. These are the people with designated shitting streets in San Francisco like it's India or China (did you know NCOV-19 has been proven to spread through airborne fecal matter?).
We've got a party that seems to deliberately act to reduce herd immunity, that opposes reflexively any measure to keep potentially sick people out, and they run the states where foreign entrants typically enter. I do not trust these people, and I don't think you should either.
friend of mine said this same thing that works in a hospital. "Its the fucking flu, upwards of 60k ppl die from that shit every year in the US and no one bats an eye, give it a fancy name on a certain strain for some propaganda is all this shit is"
Do believe everything the Chinese govt tells you?(2% mortality)
That’s about the same as the flu for hospitalizations.
Think about the number of people who have it and don’t show any symptoms. They won’t be counted in the stats. You can’t have it both ways
In all honestly...I do not blame them at all.
They live the lives of power and luxury, selling to us American citizens everyday how much we need them(the government).
Their power and luxury totally depends on American forfeiture of our money to them to trust them to do the right things with our money and taxes.
Not only are they exposing themselves through desperation, but Trump was a high fuck up to their plans.
So them wantingba catastrophe to happen would be a reason to show the people how much we need them. It is self preservation and I get it. But fuckem for doing it in such a low manner. Bunch of selfish, indifferent and indignant group of people.
It is self preservation, but in the worst possible way. People who act like that, and honestly think they're being clever and smart, are 100% narcissists if not outright sociopaths.
To them, the rest of us wide-eyed innocents - the "normies" - are nothing but sheep to be fleeced as much as possible. They all hate Trump with white-hot narcissistic rage because he refuses to play their game, and he refuses because he isn't one of them. He's a normie, too, like the rest of us.
Nothing makes a narcissist rage like a normie refusing to give them what they want. If you're ever had a narcissistic parent, spouse, friend, or boss, you know exactly what I'm talking about. The Democrats are behaving exactly the same way.
The Democrats hate America and all of us tax paying Americans, they don't even try to hide it. Fuck cuck Schumer.
They love tax money just not the Americans paying it.
Hear that Chuck?
Chuck the Cuck at it again!
Trump once again perfectly describes the situation. This is not the end of the world. Dems do what they do best and spread fear. Stay calm, keep track of things caused by the panic the Dems want to cause, and this will pass.
It was a perfect call
The panic will do far more damage
What a feckless dictator incompetent buffoon science denier REEEEEEEEEEEE
Fuck China
Even Twitter is being xenaphobic now limiting travel for his employees /s.
It will happen.
They know they can't beat him so they are hoping for millions dead. Why don't they just wait for the Global Warming to kill us all?
Who can wait for 11 more years?
THE HYSTERIA IS THE HOAX.
This! The yearly influenza is much more deadly and claims thousands of lives in the US alone but because it can't be used as a political spear against Trump, it's ignored. Except for a couple isolated cases, i.e. an elderly man in a nursing home who had pre-existing health issues, most all corona cases in the US are recovering. If I caught the damn thing, I'd just stay in my home, enjoy my hobbies and be OK in a week or two. I knock out most colds and viruses in a day or two so this thing scares me about as much as cloudy day.
I do not trust these people, and I don't think you should either.
60 million people get at least one strain of influenza every year, and one in one thousand die, for a total of 60,000 annual deaths to influenza. If 60 million people get Wu Flu, 1,200,000 people will die if the 2% mortality rate holds (we're discounting China's numbers because they're definitely lying and Iran's because they're definitely incompetent).
If you have the regular flu and cough on a thousand people, one of them dies.
If you have Kung Flu and breathe on a thousand people (remember, it's infectious before symptoms manifest), twenty of them will die.
This isn't something to joke about, and if you get sick and declare yourself better after a week, you're going to kill people. Potentially a lot of people.
Where did you read that I was going to run out and start coughing and breathing on everyone? I would certainly treat it with respect but as the first OP said, "the hysteria is the hoax." I don't trust any "those people " either and I will be cautious and use good common sense as thing continues to spread. I have to, I have young ones around me and I wouldn't jeopardize their safety. But I will also not buy into the hysteria.
The death rates for individuals under 50 years of age is 0.2% or lower. This is really where the flu comparisons come from.
Death rates are also wildly higher for smokers, which seems to be why it is also higher for males in China, because they have higher rates of smoking. Also, if you discount even just Wuhan statistics, the mortality rate goes down by quite a bit, but we'll need more data out of Italy and other first world nations before we can estimate what the mortality rate will be in the US.
So if you aren't 70+ years old and a smoker, statistically you're fine.
Of course, which is why the first two confirmed deaths in the US were both <70 non-smokers.
First, that isn't how stats works. Second, the first was in his 50s and had another chronic underlying health condition. The sources I can find actually state that the second man to die WAS in his 70s. I cannot find a single source that states they did/did not smoke, but feel free to provide one.
Here's an age breakdown of mortality: https://www.businessinsider.com/who-confirms-coronavirus-global-death-rate-rises-fatalities-numbers-2020-3
Democrats are congenital liars who are upset that more Americans haven't died because then they could have used it to make POTUS look bad.
Unfortunately for them, he is an awesome leader.
They will do their best. Soros is probably paying people in liberal counties or city centers in red states to help spread the infection.
A doctor on infowars said that drug and natural antivirals may be the most effective thing against this until a vaccine is perfected over a long time. A vaccine on a similar strain actually killed more rats than the virus.
So I should shove up my ass cotton soaked violet leaf oil?
Look on Amazon and buy something good for the lungs, like Mullein (comes in tea form or capsules). But really, if you aren't over 50 and have bad health already, you might have little to worry about.
It's obvious they are trying to crash the economy, I'm not surprised it's CHINA AND IRAN.
Look at the outbreaks in the US. Either Blue States or blue city centers like Tampa.
Not surprising given the homelessness, drugs, overpopulation and shit-smeared streets.
All the major airport hubs, basically
Not really, we see this shit with several mass shootings. It's either city, county state libs. It's on a map and we could overlay voting results and see how it aligns.
Because the economy is Trump's best campaign item. Many other things, but this is his crowning achievement. Bernie will tank it and people will be PO'd as hell.
President Trump is being proven right about building a wall and keeping people who come from God only knows where and being all their ills with them out. Democrats will go down in history as being on the wrong side of it.
Trump got it right and it piss's democrats off
When AREN'T the leftists pissed off??
Meanwhile deranged liberals are protesting because they believe closing the borders to China is racist.
Dems do not care about the well being of Americans. Nothing would make them happier than if millions of Americans died of the virus
Luckily it will mostly be dems living in their shithole overcrowded cities breathing in each other's snot
Out of one side of their mouths, they want to play this up as if it's the Spanish flu. Out the other side, they talk about how many people have it that we don't know about because the overwhelming majority of the case present as a cold or mild flu. Which is it? Is it super AIDS Ebola and we need to stock up on six months worth of toilet paper, or is it something that only kills the old and the infirmed like most respiratory illnesses?
The press and the political class want attention (advertising audience share) and influence - they spin it any way they can.
Trump wants what is right. He might not always be correct, but the man is working towards actual goals that we all share: a safe and proserous country.
He's right about that. The world has no clue how many visa/immigrants we hand out each year. They base their opinions on their own country's visa/immigration, not being able to fathom the amounts we have (double the second highest amount of Saudi Arabia per year.) I laugh when people in .... oh, I don't know .... Ireland....say they are diverse. Diversity doesn't come in just one skin tone.
The lack of CDC testing, and the actual hinderance by the FDA is going to hurt trump even if it was done by democrats.
Maybe if the election is today.
'It's just a flu, bro. Less dangerous than the common cold. It's racist to take preventative measures. Let the Chinaman spit in your mouth.' - Eugene Gu, MD
There are people up and down this thread saying the same things; 'Don't take precautions, ignore the dangers completely.'
I'm glad he's pointing this out. It's the first thing that I thought when they started criticising him for the virus response.
Tactical on a 4-D level.
A presidential MOAB if I've ever seen one.
I wonder if Trump's dick ever gets tired of being so big all the time... nah, it doesn't.
Trump stated the late to catch onto the story media that's blowing the problem out of proportion and turning it into a "we're all going to die" to cater to "the sky is falling / the world is ending" crowd a hoax. He didn't state the virus itself was a hoax and was working on it before the Demoretards decided to use it at their advantage. Now like always, they are misquoting Trump and pushing their agenda based on hatred and could care less if the virus spreads and millions of Americans die.
I wagering this is a serious miscalculation by the pedocrats, this panic is rocket fuel for the markets. By November the stock market will break records again, you can't keep a good man down.
how many time can cuck eichenwald sell all his shit and look like an idiot?
DOW is up right now 781.37
News flash you idiotic Libtards. The COVID-19 virus will still kill you if you didn't vote for Trump!
It makes sense now why Trump did not shake Iran San Fran Nan hand at the SOTU address. She had been in Iran shaking hands with the dead Iranian who died of the China virus.
For "orange man bad," he's the most grounded and reasonable adviser on any platform. God bless President Trump!
These people are trying to overthrow the government and need to disband, if this is what the Dem party is now, they are not only selling off America, but selling a race of people as a never ending source of welfare and whippings for anyone that demands it.
I am glad Trump is in office. I had to block some of these news sources that distorted the President's response to the first American dying. I watched it. I find that much of Democrat claims are disproved once they are looked up. They count on people not checking the source, or seeing it for themselves.
Be calm and NEVER.believe a democrat
The Democrats have only complained about everything that worked. They've offered no solutions and have no plans. Meanwhile the administration has offered a plan.
Don't listen to Democrats and the media complaining about the response while offering no evidence for what they're saying. They're full of shit.
Meanwhile, Washington state is in a state of emergency because someone in a nursing home died.