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booblitchutz 39 points ago +40 / -1

2014, Prop 47. It also effectively legalized all drugs. ALL drugs. That’s why CA is in the state it is now, overrun with “homeless” which is a soft leftist way of saying “addicts”.

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Tyrone_biggums 14 points ago +19 / -5

That’s an over simplicaftion. The root of that problem is a combination of the government rendering housing development effectively un-profitable by draconian regulations and very wealthy people driving up housing prices by snatching up housing as a way to preserve wealth against inflation. Portugal, in which drugs actually ARE all decriminalized, does not have such problems compared to San Francisco. Also there is a refusal to forceably remove homeless encampments.

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booblitchutz 23 points ago +23 / -0

Portugal doesn’t have a narco state on its border pumping drugs over the border, nor does it have a culture of excess that the USA has. You can not compare that tiny country to the USA.

I agree that housing issues are separate but the problems in CA right now all stem from legalized drugs.

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AmericanPigDog 3 points ago +3 / -0

I love hearing people blame the war on drugs for Mexico's problems and try to relate it to the Mafia and prohibition here. Americans never had a problem with organized crime grabbing busloads of people and making them fight to the death. We never had criminals driving around honking at you repeatedly to see if you'd react just to shoot you dead if you did that was so common it had a name (red light, green light in Mexico). Kidnappings for ransom were never commonplace like they are in Mexico.

The extent to which the people of Mexico embrace that lifestyle is on them. We has a small criminal element. There, nearly everyone knows someone who does shit that is worse than anything we ever had.

Our war on drugs is stupid, but if that's the sole or even primary reason that Mexico is in the state it's in then why isn't America in the same state? White Americans aren't in that state. The only people that act like that are the people who brought it over from Mexico and other shitholes when they came.

"Yeah, I didn't have a lot of opportunities growing up so I HAD to start murdering people for peanuts."

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Yawnz13 3 points ago +4 / -1

Drugs aren't exactly decriminalized in Portugal either. They'll still throw you in jail if they believe you to be a trafficker and may still fine you for simple possession. Portugal also never really had a drug problem even before they "legalized" drugs, so it's kind of like comparing many European countries (or Australia, Canada, etc.) with the US on mass shootings. Most of those countries didn't have a "problem" (the US doesn't really either, but that's a different story) prior to their post-WW2 gun laws.

http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/countries/drug-reports/2018/portugal/drug-laws-and-drug-law-offences_en

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AmericanPigDog 6 points ago +6 / -0

The U.S. isn't even top 10 in mass shootings when only compared to Europe. This from 2015 and back so it's probably tilted since then with the Vegas shooting.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/sorry-despite-gun-control-advocates-claims-u-s-isnt-the-worst-country-for-mass-shootings/

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doodaddy 1 point ago +1 / -0

snatching up housing as a way to preserve wealth against inflation

Is that what they are doing? I always wondered if I should buy things in case banks goes under, blames everyone else, and the FDIC can't cover anything. Assuming a house can hold it's shady value, that's harder for the banks to steal from you.

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HrvyWnstnDdntKllHmsf 2 points ago +2 / -0

And then you’ve got the idiots who say “see? The war on drugs didn’t work!”

The US has never had a war on drugs. Singapore has a war on drugs. The Philippines have a war on drugs (and are possibly overdoing it). The US has jack shit.