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posted ago by charmed1 ago by charmed1 +268 / -0

I think back to Bill Maher's comment after Trump's election, that he wished the US economy would tank in order to force Trump out. The fight between globalism and nationalism is real, trillions of dollars and personal power are at stake. I wouldn't be surprised if all this is planned. Biowarfare extended to economic warfare...

But have no doubt Trump will prevail.

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RiverFenix 19 points ago +19 / -0

HK protests sure quieted down as a result of CV, and CV also does a GREAT job masking the economic downturn in China as a result of Trump's tariffs.

When you're about to default on your mortgage payments, your house catching on fire seems awfully suspicious.

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rbobjones69 13 points ago +13 / -0

No, not today. This is all Saudi driven. One thing it will do is crush Iran financially.

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GasSoros 9 points ago +10 / -1

Soros is at it. This is why we need to suspend habeous corpus and go after the treasonous faggots.

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handpeople 7 points ago +9 / -2

Our global supply chain is fucked. All it takes is a sneeze. Its going to get worse. Globalism sucks, this is just why, regardless if it were planned or unplanned.

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RlzJohnnyM 7 points ago +7 / -0

Think about this for one second

Oil plunging 30% is good for the bottom line for everyone

Especially airlines and cruises that are losing business because of the virus

Why then would you dump those stocks that are not in the oil business?

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GasSoros 5 points ago +5 / -0

Because.... for Soros reasons

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DisgustedByMisleadia 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oil down 30% is good for everyone except the independent oil companies. The big ones are mostly marketing and distribution, and this lowers their costs as well.

The independents that do most of the exploration and drilling in the US will be hurt by this, because it's no longer profitable for them to take the risk. In the long run, it will reduce our independence from foreign oil and more vulnerable when the price goes back up.

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Franks_Protrusions 0 points ago +1 / -1

It will hurt airlines that hedge against higher oil prices. Which is most of them.

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RlzJohnnyM -1 points ago +1 / -2

It is not that simple

Most airlines collar the options buying both puts and calls

So they are not that exposed

Do research before you spew nonsense

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Franks_Protrusions 2 points ago +2 / -0

Bad day?

Collar hedges are still hedges against higher prices. What I said isn't untrue.

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RlzJohnnyM 0 points ago +1 / -1

smh

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DisgustedByMisleadia 1 point ago +1 / -0

Unless you think Saudi Arabia and Russia colluded to cause this, I doubt it.

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charmed1 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Early this am I was still going by the "corona virus" drop last Friday. But on Rush today he said Saudi Arabia dropped prices to bring down both Russian and Iran. There was even a speculation that Pompeo was aware of this ahead of time.

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DisgustedByMisleadia 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm reading conflicting accounts about that:

https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/09/saudi-arabia-russia-oil-prices-coronavirus/

Prices fell into the $30s as the Saudis push for a cut in output to prop up prices, while Russia went the other way, and decided to infuse the market with hundreds of thousands of barrels of oil, according to The Washington Post. Moscow is worried that the U.S. will use shale oil to take advantage if Saudi Arabia ease off production.

I don't know which is true. I've asked in another thread for an opinion from someone in the industry.

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charmed1 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

It looks like they dropped prices and increased output..in a reversal of policy

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/08/813439501/saudi-arabia-stuns-world-with-massive-discount-in-oil-sold-to-asia-europe-and-u-

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DisgustedByMisleadia 2 points ago +2 / -0

Interesting. I first thought that contradicted the article I cited, but now I see that it's ambiguous. Consider this:

Prices fell into the $30s as the Saudis push for a cut in output to prop up prices, while Russia went the other way, and decided to infuse the market with hundreds of thousands of barrels of oil, according to The Washington Post.

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Prices fell into the $30s as the Saudis push for a cut in output to prop up prices, while Russia went the other way and decided to infuse the market with hundreds of thousands of barrels of oil, according to The Washington Post.

The first one is as it was published by DC. In the second, I only removed one comma, after other way. In the second, it's now clear it was Russia, and that's how I interpreted it. With the comma intact, it's ambiguous.

The Washington ComPost article is behind a paywall, so I can't see what they actually published. But, this article makes it clear it was the Saudi's:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/09/business/oil-price-crash-explainer/index.html

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charmed1 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

What I heard on Rush today...Saudis were pushing for the first, but Russia wouldn't go along so they fought back by dropping prices and increasing output. There was a reversal in plans. Russia is fucked.