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oxygen 4 points ago +11 / -7

I have lived in Cambodia in a Muslim community. My apartment is owned by Muslims. Most are not radicalized and have normal families and are loving. Is the religion extremist, backwards, and in need of reform? Yes, in many ways. But I live 1000 feet from the Mosque and walk by it several times a day, and have no problems whatsoever that I'm American and non-muslim. So instead of "turning the middle east into glass", how about we get the fuck out of Iraq and mind our own fucking business? I voted for Trump because he was anti-war. We'll never stop the 20% or so of global Muslims who are radicalized from hating America by bombing every fucking thing in sight every time one of them kills one of us. We'll never stop having Americans be killed there so long as we stay. We fucked up the region with Bush and Obama, Trump helped wipe out IS1S. Now, let's go the fuck home. Also, if you believe the official 9/11 story, you are wrong:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=_HlUmmPBoLg

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Necalli 2 points ago +5 / -3

The religion CANNOT be reformed. If any of them believe the Quran contains the will of their god, then that cannot be changed, as the Quran is clear in what it says to do with non-muslims. "Non-radicalized" muslims are simply muslims who do not actually act on their own religion's commands. Like a Christian who sleeps around, or is a drunk, they do not obey the commands their religion gives them. However, if even 1 single Muslim decides to actually obey the commands they are given, they are an enemy of ALL civilized society. There is a reason that ISIS is the truest example of Islam in the world, because they actually follow the religion's commands AS WRITTEN.

The only group in the world who does not understand that Islam is the enemy of everything good, are bleeding heart liberals, every other religion or culture in the world has this basic understanding if they've EVER interacted with muslims. Fucking Buddhists are killing muslims, fucking Buddhists are defending their way of life. India is working hard to remove as many Muslims as they can. Legally if possible, but I dont doubt they'll make use of violence soon to completely purge them.

How about this, you go do some research of your own, look at the Quran's teachings, and see the evil that it commands its followers to do. You'll see that if literally anyone takes the writings and actually obeys them, they are our enemy. Thus, the religion is our enemy. All it takes is 1 fucking child of a "moderate" muslim to take their religion seriously to become a threat to us. ALL muslims are a threat to us. The entire religion is a threat to us. I know a Muslims man who was a partygoing playboy, not a great person, but overall not that unusual for where we lived. He got injured, was stuck at home for a few months. He read the Quran and actually embraced his religion, then suddenly he left for Syria to join ISIS. He went from a relatively normal person, to someone who wants to kill people, rape women and children, all because he actually took his religion seriously.

We just cant do fuck all about it legally. The constitution protects American Muslims. We can, however, cut off Muslim immigrants and refugees, and make it clear, on the personal level, that Muslims are not welcome.

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oxygen 2 points ago +6 / -4

I have done my research. In fact, I probably know more than you. Good job strawmanning and namecalling too. I never mentioned immigration. I talked about bombing countries for decades in never-ending wars. If you really think all it takes is one child of a moderate Muslim to be a threat to us all, and that the religion is our enemy, then we ought to work at extinguishinging all of them from the face of the Earth. All 1.3 billion of them.

Otherwise, these wars are moronic and do nothing except put more Americans at risk. You can't kill everyone, nor should you, as most are peaceful.

The fact you think Islam can not be reformed, when it's Muslims who have largely been behind the movement to do so, shows your ignorance.

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RandyContractor 1 point ago +2 / -1

This guy gets it!

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oxygen 1 point ago +1 / -0

Agreed that in places like Michigan, many places in Europe, etc., many Syrian refugees are refusing to integrate and destroying the community, etc. I'm not a "bleeding heart liberal" as someone else called me, and can both acknowledge the problems of some situations, like moronic liberal immigration policies, while also recognizing the fact most Muslims globally are not radicalized, and that "nuking Mecca" is an idiotic and immoral idea for a number of reasons. Outside the United States, most Muslims you meet are good. I helped one from Malaysia just the other day set up her business on Tripadvisor. She was unbelievably kind. She gave me a free meal, constantly thanked me, and asked how I was for weeks afterwards. I mean truly the nicest person you'd ever meet. At the same time, there are stories like that one clueless woman a year or so ago who backpacked through a bunch of dangerous Muslim areas to prove it wasn't so bad, and she ended up getting raped and having her head cut off. The situation is nuanced and I wish more Americans saw more of the world and understood this nuance.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kebab+%26+Falafel+Time+Halal+Food+Cafe,+Sangkat+Svay+Dangkum+Krong+Siem+Reap,+17252,+Cambodia/@13.3538504,103.849548,17z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x31101720c67cee79:0x1a6cff1795039d12