I can almost guarantee that Trump went full on Europe ban (with the UK excluded), to get the MSM to change the narrative.
He just moved his chips to the center of the table. Either the media has to agree that Trump did the right thing, or they have to admit that the hysteria is overblown.
I've got my money on them shifting the narrative that the hysteria is overblown and le drumph is overreacting. Look to see the virus begin to get downplayed in the coming weeks as they push to have the ban overturned.
Also look to see the market start to correct as the media is forced to stop pushing this bullshit story.
There have been 38 confirmed deaths in America, with 23 of those linked to one nursing home in Washington and an additional 7 deaths in Washington at other assisted care facilities.
So in a country of 347 million, we have 8 deaths outside of a very concentrated population of old people in Washington. It's also March 12th, so the conditions for this virus to thrive in are already receding as spring approaches.
Don't ask me about Italy or China. Both are complete clusterfucks.
Going to be difficult for them to hard reverse when the NBA came out at the same time as Trump did and suspended their season. I wouldn't put it past them to do so, though. I bet they slam their gears into reverse faster than the Titanic when it saw the iceberg up ahead.
I knew this was what Trump was doing when I read that his move took European leaders by surprise.
It's a brilliant chess move.
This is a disastrous disease that could kill hundreds of thousands? Fine. You and your rich globalist friends can't come here anymore. America is closed.
Well, they're starting to shut down schools in jersey. Over 30 cases and one death.
So I went to the USA today map. Figured cases and deaths would be more or less evenly distributed across major population centers.
Nope. 30 deaths in Washington. Out of 330 cases. 8 total deaths outside of Washington.
Thought...hey, that's pretty weird. Then started reading news articles. Oh shit, almost all of those Washington deaths are related to one nursing home. Several others are related to other nursing homes in the area. Probably a doctor or healthcare worker who travels between locations (my theory).
So almost all of the deaths in the US are people who are above the age of 70 and living in a fucking nursing home.
Have you ever been to a fucking nursing home? Most of the folks who don't have dimensia are there due to a pre-existing condition.
What would be really good to have would be the same breakdowns for the crosstabs (age, pre-existing conditions, age + pre-existing conditions) with the flu.
Once you start digging into the US numbers (Chinese numbers are a joke), this looks more and more like a slightly more lethal version of the flu.
Kot of the European countries are considering suspending the season. Italy already has. The Olympic committee is talking about pushing the Olympics back a year or 2. Imo this is very smart move to help avoid the spreading. There will always be that 1 asshole who goes out while sick and risks everyone getting sick.
If you read the statements from the actual people in charge, they aren't trying to 'stop the spread' at all, they are just trying to slow it down because there is genuine fear their dilapidated socialist medical systems will collapse under any real pressure. See: Italy.
I bet they slam their gears into reverse faster than the Titanic when it saw the iceberg up ahead.
History nerd here. The funny thing about that is that the Titanic going full reverse and hard to starboard probably is what doomed it. Had they killed the prop and hit the iceberg head on it's theorized that the watertight compartments could've contained the blow to a small section and the ship would've sunk much slower allowing time for the Carpathia to save more people.
Infowars said Italy might have a different strain that kills 5%, so that'd explain the Europe ban. The Dems will still try to spread things so be prepared.
I'll say this until I'm blue in the face or people stop listening:
Stop. Paying. Attention. To. The. Mortality. Rate.
The only people confirmed to have COVID are those who were tested. Of those tested and confirmed X% have died. We do not know how many had it and survived. We do not know what % of the population had it. As an example, the CDC says 134 million people had the flu in the US this season.
Now do you think that 134 million people actually went, had blood tests done, then had their results sent to the CDC lab for secondary testing and that's how they came up with their numbers? Or do you think that tens of millions of people went to their doctor with a cough and a fever and the doctor wrote "flu" in their chart and prescribed them cold medicine and three days off work?
We can't make assumptions on mortality until we understand more about how this thing spreads.
Correct. And actually this helps the stock market in the medium term.
By calling the media's bluff, he's going to force them off the story. By forcing them off the story, baseless panic will start to subside. Markets will correct.
I agree. I'm actually somewhat torn on his response to this whole thing, but seeing as I'm not president I don't even know a tenth of the information he does and I don't have access to a tenth of the professional advice that he does.
Bottom line - I'm a Trump supporter and I trust that he has surrounded himself with people who can give him good advice on this situation. I can make layman's guesses on what's the right response, but I'm not being supplied by some "disaster preparation" company to sell pandemic food supply kits so I won't really pretend to give anyone advice.
It is also possible that some may not even have gone to a dr...just went to the drug store and bought otc meds and stayed home sick a few days..no one really knows.
This is what I've been arguing for weeks now and nobody fucking listens. I'd wager about 95% of people don't go to the doctor when they have a cold or a fever. They call into work, chug some Campbells chicken noodle, and then are back the next day.
My stepmom had a major flu for about a week this year before she finally gave in and went to see the doctor. My dad had the same flu for three weeks. Most people just buy some dayquil and call it a night. How many of these people had coronavirus already and were never diagnosed? I know that (before all of this news) I would have never gone to the doctor because I had a cough and the chills for a couple of days.
If anything, the current mortality rate is comforting because it is highly likely to be overly inflated. Given the current media drive to fear monger on top of that, and I wouldn’t doubt this could even end up being less deadly than the worst of flus. The bottom end of the mortality estimate is still just ‘the flu’, and that’s at an inflated level being pushed by people trying to inflate it.
Or do you think that tens of millions of people went to their doctor with a cough and a fever and the doctor wrote "flu" in their chart and prescribed them cold medicine and three days off work?
I don't know but a couple years ago when I had the flu the NP stuck a Q-tip up my nose and they tested it on site for flu.
Do we have a breakdown of the number of infections in Italy by age group? I have a theory that communal drinking from the cup at the end of mass spread the shit out of the disease, and the demographics of people that still attend Catholic mass AND drink from the cup (not just eat the waiffer) skew MUCH older than the broader population. So if a higher percentage of older people are catching it vs the non Italy index, and the death rate for older folks is much higher than younger folks, the disease will appear to have a higher overall death rate.
So there we go. Once you dig into the numbers, the whole thing blows up.
If you're 70+ with an underlying condition, maybe lay low until mid April. Why the rest of the fucking world needs to come to a screechinh halt over this shit is beyond me.
I can almost guarantee that Trump went full on Europe ban (with the UK excluded), to get the MSM to change the narrative.
He just moved his chips to the center of the table. Either the media has to agree that Trump did the right thing, or they have to admit that the hysteria is overblown.
I've got my money on them shifting the narrative that the hysteria is overblown and le drumph is overreacting. Look to see the virus begin to get downplayed in the coming weeks as they push to have the ban overturned.
Also look to see the market start to correct as the media is forced to stop pushing this bullshit story.
There have been 38 confirmed deaths in America, with 23 of those linked to one nursing home in Washington and an additional 7 deaths in Washington at other assisted care facilities.
So in a country of 347 million, we have 8 deaths outside of a very concentrated population of old people in Washington. It's also March 12th, so the conditions for this virus to thrive in are already receding as spring approaches.
Don't ask me about Italy or China. Both are complete clusterfucks.
Going to be difficult for them to hard reverse when the NBA came out at the same time as Trump did and suspended their season. I wouldn't put it past them to do so, though. I bet they slam their gears into reverse faster than the Titanic when it saw the iceberg up ahead.
I knew this was what Trump was doing when I read that his move took European leaders by surprise.
It's a brilliant chess move.
This is a disastrous disease that could kill hundreds of thousands? Fine. You and your rich globalist friends can't come here anymore. America is closed.
Typical Trump double bind.
It is!😍
Well, they're starting to shut down schools in jersey. Over 30 cases and one death.
So I went to the USA today map. Figured cases and deaths would be more or less evenly distributed across major population centers.
Nope. 30 deaths in Washington. Out of 330 cases. 8 total deaths outside of Washington.
Thought...hey, that's pretty weird. Then started reading news articles. Oh shit, almost all of those Washington deaths are related to one nursing home. Several others are related to other nursing homes in the area. Probably a doctor or healthcare worker who travels between locations (my theory).
So almost all of the deaths in the US are people who are above the age of 70 and living in a fucking nursing home.
Have you ever been to a fucking nursing home? Most of the folks who don't have dimensia are there due to a pre-existing condition.
What would be really good to have would be the same breakdowns for the crosstabs (age, pre-existing conditions, age + pre-existing conditions) with the flu.
Once you start digging into the US numbers (Chinese numbers are a joke), this looks more and more like a slightly more lethal version of the flu.
At the end of flu season.
Fuck the media.
European markets already in free fall.
Kot of the European countries are considering suspending the season. Italy already has. The Olympic committee is talking about pushing the Olympics back a year or 2. Imo this is very smart move to help avoid the spreading. There will always be that 1 asshole who goes out while sick and risks everyone getting sick.
If you read the statements from the actual people in charge, they aren't trying to 'stop the spread' at all, they are just trying to slow it down because there is genuine fear their dilapidated socialist medical systems will collapse under any real pressure. See: Italy.
History nerd here. The funny thing about that is that the Titanic going full reverse and hard to starboard probably is what doomed it. Had they killed the prop and hit the iceberg head on it's theorized that the watertight compartments could've contained the blow to a small section and the ship would've sunk much slower allowing time for the Carpathia to save more people.
So if the captain of the ship had actually believed the ship was indestructible, quantum physics would have saved it? /jk
I'm sorry, but I CANNOT hear Titanic and iceberg in the same sentence without hearing Jamie Brockett:
*All of a sudden ... the Captain's eyes popped wide open.
He stood right up straight ... grabs a hold o' da wheel ...
Looks on out at the bow o' dat boat n' he say,
"I'M GONNA MOVE YOU BABY!!!"
And he did right on into an iceberg
n' she went right on down*
Quietam (497.5 feet of rope)
Infowars said Italy might have a different strain that kills 5%, so that'd explain the Europe ban. The Dems will still try to spread things so be prepared.
I'll say this until I'm blue in the face or people stop listening:
Stop. Paying. Attention. To. The. Mortality. Rate.
The only people confirmed to have COVID are those who were tested. Of those tested and confirmed X% have died. We do not know how many had it and survived. We do not know what % of the population had it. As an example, the CDC says 134 million people had the flu in the US this season.
Now do you think that 134 million people actually went, had blood tests done, then had their results sent to the CDC lab for secondary testing and that's how they came up with their numbers? Or do you think that tens of millions of people went to their doctor with a cough and a fever and the doctor wrote "flu" in their chart and prescribed them cold medicine and three days off work?
We can't make assumptions on mortality until we understand more about how this thing spreads.
Good point, but Trump is being cautious because millions of bodies would give the MSM more damaging attacks than a weaker economy.
Correct. And actually this helps the stock market in the medium term.
By calling the media's bluff, he's going to force them off the story. By forcing them off the story, baseless panic will start to subside. Markets will correct.
I agree. I'm actually somewhat torn on his response to this whole thing, but seeing as I'm not president I don't even know a tenth of the information he does and I don't have access to a tenth of the professional advice that he does.
Bottom line - I'm a Trump supporter and I trust that he has surrounded himself with people who can give him good advice on this situation. I can make layman's guesses on what's the right response, but I'm not being supplied by some "disaster preparation" company to sell pandemic food supply kits so I won't really pretend to give anyone advice.
It is also possible that some may not even have gone to a dr...just went to the drug store and bought otc meds and stayed home sick a few days..no one really knows.
This is what I've been arguing for weeks now and nobody fucking listens. I'd wager about 95% of people don't go to the doctor when they have a cold or a fever. They call into work, chug some Campbells chicken noodle, and then are back the next day.
My stepmom had a major flu for about a week this year before she finally gave in and went to see the doctor. My dad had the same flu for three weeks. Most people just buy some dayquil and call it a night. How many of these people had coronavirus already and were never diagnosed? I know that (before all of this news) I would have never gone to the doctor because I had a cough and the chills for a couple of days.
If anything, the current mortality rate is comforting because it is highly likely to be overly inflated. Given the current media drive to fear monger on top of that, and I wouldn’t doubt this could even end up being less deadly than the worst of flus. The bottom end of the mortality estimate is still just ‘the flu’, and that’s at an inflated level being pushed by people trying to inflate it.
I don't know but a couple years ago when I had the flu the NP stuck a Q-tip up my nose and they tested it on site for flu.
To your point, they actively resist testing people unless they have severe symptoms.
Do we have a breakdown of the number of infections in Italy by age group? I have a theory that communal drinking from the cup at the end of mass spread the shit out of the disease, and the demographics of people that still attend Catholic mass AND drink from the cup (not just eat the waiffer) skew MUCH older than the broader population. So if a higher percentage of older people are catching it vs the non Italy index, and the death rate for older folks is much higher than younger folks, the disease will appear to have a higher overall death rate.
Any stats geeks have the cross tabs?
So there we go. Once you dig into the numbers, the whole thing blows up.
If you're 70+ with an underlying condition, maybe lay low until mid April. Why the rest of the fucking world needs to come to a screechinh halt over this shit is beyond me.
Very plausible.
You forgot option 3: it’s racist and xenophobic to not allow third world people to infect you.
You're absolutely right. I almost forgot about the cuck government to the north. SHUT THAT HO DOWN!
They're actually just ignoring it and focusing on how he called it a "foreign virus" and that Pelosi doesn't like his speech