If our hospitals become overwhelmed they will do the same thing. If you only have room to treat one patient you pick the one you re most likely to help
Death panel situations like the article are IMO the largest stumbling block of utilitarianism. It's not much of a leap from this to "Why allow one healthy person to live if their organs could prevent 6 people from dying who are more valuable for x reason?" Then you get the current situation in China.
Awww there you go with real information. I predict a baby boom after this passes. It is normal for places with famine, violence or pestilence to have higher birth rates
Right. If there literally aren’t enough healthcare staff to take care of people because of a pandemic, how we pay for our healthcare isn’t really relevant. If there’s already a shortage due to a shitty healthcare system, fair enough, but doubling or tripling demand is going to stress the system no matter what.
I’d trust somebody who has zero political motive than anybody inside our country right now. Both sides are being absolute morons and one side thinks the world will end, and the other thinks it’s a hoax. Both are wrong. https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw
"Medicare for All" 101 right here. We TOLD YOU Death Panels are a cornerstone. Some bureaucrat decides if you're "worth treating"
People don't understand triage because usually we have the capacity. Italy has gotten overwhelmed beyond their capacity.
If our hospitals become overwhelmed they will do the same thing. If you only have room to treat one patient you pick the one you re most likely to help
Or pay!
Death panel situations like the article are IMO the largest stumbling block of utilitarianism. It's not much of a leap from this to "Why allow one healthy person to live if their organs could prevent 6 people from dying who are more valuable for x reason?" Then you get the current situation in China.
Fucking Italy lost 4,000 old people to a heat wave in 2003. Their shit's always fucked up.
Lots of wisdom in elderly as well. Hope people write memoirs.
WTF Italy? Aren't the elderly the ones most vulnerable?
I hope the world remembers what China has done to us.
And don't forget who helped them too!
Awww there you go with real information. I predict a baby boom after this passes. It is normal for places with famine, violence or pestilence to have higher birth rates
Italy + socialized medicine = death.
Womp womp.
Italian heathcare is pretty decent.
We shouldn't get too caught up in mocking them before we know that we won't face a similar situation.
Doubt.
There was an Italian that posted here not long ago that he was in a car accident and in critical condition and still had to wait for medical care.
Right. If there literally aren’t enough healthcare staff to take care of people because of a pandemic, how we pay for our healthcare isn’t really relevant. If there’s already a shortage due to a shitty healthcare system, fair enough, but doubling or tripling demand is going to stress the system no matter what.
Everyone with money uses private hospitals in Italy
The left thinks the movie Logan's Run is a marvelous idea.
How do we know these stats can be trusted?
I’d trust somebody who has zero political motive than anybody inside our country right now. Both sides are being absolute morons and one side thinks the world will end, and the other thinks it’s a hoax. Both are wrong. https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw
WOW!
What a sad shitshow.
Some would call them death panels...
Good at deciding who lives and who dies.
Death panels.
It can't happen here?
The death rate is exponentially higher among the elderly, but sure, let's let them die
You, fuckface, don't understand the United States. Go back to r/politics and your echo chamber.
ItS jUsT a FLooo, fAgGoOtSsssss
Have you looked at how many people died in Italy during Swine flu? Did you keep breathless track of that like you are this?
Flu has killed more people than that still...