Starting Monday, the people with infinite wisdom have come up with a super plan to prevent the spread of this super duper deadly disease.
Each morning, all employees have to stop by a predetermined nurse station to have their temperature taken. If it's below 100.5, they will then need to make their way to an area to take a 3-question survey on how they're feeling. They can then go clock in for the day and get to work. They can't clock in beforehand.
If their temperature is 100.5 or above, they will be turned away and sent home. They will need to take personal time, get to a doctor, get a doctor's note saying they are corona-free, and that they can return to work.
Also, no outside visitors, only approved vendors, only essential personnel, the cafeteria is closed, the giftshop is closed, the special needs school is closed, and no one without a badge can get past certain points, no exceptions.
Mail and packages will be delivered to a table directly in front of the main doors. There are signs everywhere kindly reminding people not to forget what I consider basic, fucking hygiene. Thank God for that.
In the meantime, another 300 people have died of the flu since they made this decision. Fucking clown world.
Starting Monday, the people with infinite wisdom have come up with a super plan to prevent the spread of this super duper deadly disease.
Each morning, all employees have to stop by a predetermined nurse station to have their temperature taken. If it's below 100.5, they will then need to make their way to an area to take a 3-question survey on how they're feeling. They can then go clock in for the day and get to work. They can't clock in beforehand.
If their temperature is 100.5 or above, they will be turned away and sent home. They will need to take personal time, get to a doctor, get a doctor's note saying they are corona-free, and that they can return to work.
Also, no outside visitors, only approved vendors, only essential personnel, the cafeteria is closed, the giftshop is closed, the special needs school is closed, and no one without a badge can get past certain points, no exceptions.
Mail and packages will be delivered to a table directly in front of the main doors. There are signs everywhere kindly reminding people not to forget what I consider basic, fucking hygiene. Thank God for that.
In the meantime, another 300 people have died of the flu since they made this decision. Fucking clown world.
That note is going to be impossible to get.
Yep. Try getting an appointment on short notice. People will be out for days.
Thank God above for shopping at Costco, we buy in bulk thus saving money and we won’t need to buy toilet paper for a month and a half each time we do. Hopefully by then the tp hoarders regain their sanity. (However much they started out with)
I work at a grocery store and it's insane. People are buying it almost as fast as I can put it on the shelf. I dont even get what the deal is with toilet paper and this.
Just imagine the types of people who consume 6+ rolls of TP each per week.
We just happened to have bought a big 48-pack of Charmin from Sam's Club last week before all this insanity. That's good for at least six weeks for the two of us.
We always buy in the bulk so we don't have to worry about paper products running out. WE stocked up on Kleenex too during cold/flu season.
It's not only that - no doctor is going to take on the liability of declaring someone free of the virus, even if a test comes back negative.
I wonder if theres a way to get anyones attention about how dumb that policy they just made up is. Lawyers, local news, or maybe the HR or someone else at the local hospital.
Because that is so fucked up I could scream. the fuck if I'm going to the doctor right now unless I had to. Think of all the shit you could catch there.
I'd refuse. I'd call in to a doctor, and then call and tell the employer that you called in to the doctor and what they said. And I'd tell em that's all you can make me do. I won't stand in a hospital triage for you and possibly catch something I dont have. And if you fucking try me, I'll lawyer up.
Fly to Korea, get tested, come back? Flights are super cheap now....
Mine went full retard about 2 weeks ago and closed all offices nationally. everyone is working from home, but me. Its ok to still send me out to people's homes for inspections tho.
Yep my company did the same, working from home.
Yep my home did the same, working from company.
Yep. Did the same, home my Company. From working
Same here, working company home my from
Hi, I'm Joe Biden and why is everyone writing the same thing?
Oh yeah, and I forgot that they're now looking into ways for people to work from home "JUST IN CASE!!!!".
Go out and buy a full-on respirator and charge it back to the company.
so you're the canary in the coal mine?
Howz3r is still alive after a month, time to go back in the office.
Under normal circumstances it can take weeks to get back a test result specifying exactly which of about two hundred possible virus strains is causing your cold.
The test is expensive, time-consuming, and completely unnecessary because treatment is exactly the same in the vast majority of cases. You manage symptoms with over the counter medicine, rest, and drink plenty of fluids.
Sending every single person with a cold to the doctor's office is just about the worst possible idea. You're just going to clog the system with people that don't need to be there making it that much more difficult to treat people that actually need help.
Honestly, this is one of the biggest problems with socialized medicine. If people can go to the hospital any time they have the sniffles with no direct, out-of-pocket cost to themselves, they're fare more likely to waste medical resources.
We're going to need to import more doctors.
I heard the third world has tons of them.
cuba has excellent literacy and health care systems.
I hear all the time the best ones are from the Middle East. But we're all bigots for not allowing them in.
I know, right? Fucking Drughmph... the ME is literally swimming in brilliant doctors and were all gonna die from whatever the plague of the week is because of racists!
In case it's needed ----> /s
Exactly. And going to the hospital or clinic is a great way to pick up more viruses or bugs. Everyone getting tested would only exacerbate the spread of the disease! Only people who have underlying health conditions and the elderly who are showing symptoms should be tested in my opinion.
Great point. When people have skin in the game, they tend to be a little (lot) more judicious with their actions.
Pick one.
If you are reacting, it is too late. If you are preventing, you are not "overreacting."
"I eat healthy to stay healthy"
"But you're not even sick! What an overreaction!"
Regardless of any any other bullshit, preventative measures should always be on the table when a new virus appears. Until it's been properly studied, long term, in a controlled environment, "overreactions" are necessary and prudent. Next year we will know exactly how it behaves, and then take Appropriate action.
Right. I'm agreeing with you.
I'm saying calling a preventative measure an overreaction is an idiotic and counterproductive thing the media does. A preventative action is not a reaction at all. People can say Overly Cautious action, but that doesn't make Drumph look bad, it makes him look prudent.
Last evening my wife and I went to a visitation (a guy we both know, his elderly father died) and I took a bottle of hand sanitizer with me. My wife sorta rolled her eyes when I put it in the car, but I said she'd be glad I did. We did the visitation, and shook hands with our friend, his brother, and a couple of other people in the receiving line. I made sure that I didn't touch anything with my right hand (like my face) and when I got out to the car, with my left hand I opened it and got the sanitizer going. My wife was then like "Oh, I need some." No kidding. We just, in essence, shook hands with hundreds of people. Many of them were elderly and probably at least a few had something or other. And it made me think of the times I hadn't done this in the past.
We've got far, far too many "The media says it's bad, therefore it can't possible be bad at all, and must therefore be good, lets all get coronovirus!" bullshiters around here lately.
Yes the media is absolutely playing panic for political gain, but you can't ignore actual risk and problems just because the noise ratio is so high. We haven't had a Spanish flu or black plague equivalent BECAUSE of modern preventative measures. No one should be panicking, at all, but everyone should be exorcising caution and preventative measures.
We also don’t carry dead bodies through town on straw-lined donkey carts anymore
The local moral officer would like a word with you.
Since most people have 0 to mild symptoms, and do not get tested, because they either do not know they are sick or think it's a mild cold, where does the 15 to 20% figure come from?
So you're saying "mild" symptoms include anything up to needing hospitalization? Do you have the same standards for describing symptoms of the flu?
You skipped straight over "moderate"!
So what were all trying to say is that the truth is somewhere in the middle:
Yes, we should prevent the spread so as not to endanger actually at risk people and overwhelm the system.
No we shouldn't panic, the actual virus will not be bad for the vast majority of people.
Unfortunately, many people seem to be unable to separate the two, and think the former means to buy as much toilet paper as possible, because if we need to prevent this that means it's going to kill us all!
It hurts my brain to try to think like that.. But that's the asymmetric information leverage point: the MSM hypes it up like it's going to kill everyone and the entire entertainment industry shuts down.
What really rustles my jimmies is when someone shuts down talk of the virus being "politicized" as a conspiracy theory. What's so hard to believe that evil people would use something that's happening for their gain? That story is integral to all of human history.
About 45 minutes ago, Bolsonaro's son appeared via Skype on Fox and said his father tested negative.
Your username is "BasedMedicalDoctor" and you start your comment with "as a physician" Both are pretty big red flags that you might be full of shit.
If your opinion has merit and is based on facts, you won't need to qualify it with personal credentials. Otherwise you are probably just yelling about how your feelings are more important than reality.
This has to be the dumbest thing I've heard all day.
By that logic, the media is politicizing everything against trump because they want him to win.
Derp da derp
Almost every HR dept is filled with retards. It is their nature. That's like saying every hospital is filled with sick people. Anyone who isn't retarded/sick will GTFO as soon as possible.
My body temp must be under 100.5? Ok, I’ll just chew on some ice on my way to work…
100.5 is a fairly significant fever. That's flu sick not cold sick. If you have a 100+ fever your ass should be staying home and resting. No one else needs whatever crap you currently have.
Fair, I'm just thinking that there are probably a couple people who are more than willing to skirt these rules
Its by design
Someone coughed in a room here. Everyone in the room was sent home. The room is closed for cleaning. The entire building was notified.
Seriously, retards, fuck off. Every one of you.
I've received emails so far from my bank and the place I get my tires changed informing me of their coronavirus regimen and how they are taking steps to protect everyone.
This is the most overblown, hysterical response I've ever witnessed in my 53 years. Can't really blame the companies though because they want to stay in business and people are being terrified into not going out in public. I caught the swine flu (H1N1) in the 2009 pandemic and I wasn't even aware of it being an issue because there was none of this hype surrounding it. But then, 0bama was President then and there was no incentive to create a hysteria over it.
seems pretty reasonable, except for the part about not letting you clock in. your employer would lose in court if someone challenged that.
https://apnews.com/8df3153e5f464f2d95956ee72042da54/Court:-Starbucks,-others-must-pay-workers-for-off-clock-work
The clock itself is a disease vector.
I agree company should pay you if you are there waiting in a line to have your temperature taken, but there is a logistics problem here.
You need to be checked before being inside with anyone.
There's a reason the drive through testing areas are all outside. Being cooped up in line with potentially sick people is a great way to make everyone sick
(The drive through testing area locally is a parking garage with constant fresh breeze at the University of Washington)
What kind of person gets pissed about not getting paid 30 seconds extra when they get to work to answer three questions. Probably the kind of person that isn't working that hard after they clock in anyways.
This guy probably works in food service and his company is doing due diligence to protect its customers.
It's a corporate environment, not food service. Also, it's not the 30 seconds; it's the fact they will have one or two nurses for the 300 people who arrive at 8am. If hourly employees clock in more than 5 minutes late, they lose 15 minutes. If they're 20 minutes late, they lose 30, and so on.
I'm salary, so it won't affect me but there are more hourly employees than salaried.
Midtown Manhattan is a ghost town because all of the companies there are telling people to work from home.
A relative told me Stanley Tools in another state just told all their employees that, if they close, they won't be paying anyone during the forced time off.
Why should they have to pay them?
ask your workplace if they increased the fresh air ratio in the conditioning system. Yes it'll cost more, but less likely to spread disease.
I hate being in buildings built in the 1980s. The ratio of of fresh air is terrible. Thank you Jimmy Carter
These kinds of things are only going to serve to overwhelm the already busy medical offices. Dumb policy is dumb.
Disagree. I do think that if people are feeling sick and especially if they have a fever they should self quarantine until they start getting better. But I don't run out to the doctor every time I have the flu so I'm not going to run out to the doctor just because I might have this. I'm not in the category of people at risk of dying from this virus at all.
I do agree that anyone that has a compromised immune system, is over the age of 60 or has something like COPD should see a doctor to determine if they have the virus and if so then get admitted so they can be placed on IVs and kept hydrated. My mother, for instance, falls in this category. So if I developed a fever I would not go around her until I'm well but I wouldn't go to the doctor unless I'm seriously ill. This is how doctors offices and medial clinics become overwhelmed and have to choose between treating elderly or not. IMO, it's a dumb policy and a huge over reaction.
My place of employment has gone full retard as well. I'm a waiter. That's all I'll say. Anyway, my first table yesterday was a group of really nice senior couples. One of the gentleman asked me straight up. "You aren't falling for any of this bullshit are ya"? It was a pleasant surprise
If we delay long enough we can save Social Security.
Admittedly, it's the hard way.
That is just sick and I am offended. I am 75 and in good health. I paid into Social Security for over 50 years (started work at age 16). Don't knock us Seniors or wish early death on us.
If you can't make or laugh at sick jokes in a pandemic, you're going to damage your immune system from stress.
Ok, Mrs Grundy
So now we believe everything we read online from MSM? Because the Chinese Death Plague(they'd have you think) made them start being truthful?
I totally believe Italy is falling apart. It has socialized medicine, a huge elderly population, and a healthcare system that is 40 years out of date. It ignored the problem.
Do i think it's gonna be Anywhere close to that bad here? Fuck no. Am I taking precautions? Fuck yea. The truth is somewhere in between "it's just the flu bro" and the fucking apocalypse. Its not panic worthy, but is worth small changes in your habit and scheduling.
Done.
That’s fine. I’m too poor to go out anyway.
Agreed
You downvoted a doctor for telling you that you’re full of shit... that’s what we’ve devolved into the past few days.
Congrats everybody, the media did their work on us too, and you all are playing the willing rubes they want you to be. The media knew their hysteria would also cause us to stop giving a shit, which will also make the outbreak worse.
We’re playing ourselves and nobody seems to notice or care.
Protip: calling someone an idiot or a retard is a horrible way to communicate your message. If you can't disagree with someone without resorting to name-calling, you should probably be on reddit instead.
My office posted signs to wash hands in the restrooms, placed hand sanitizer all over the office, sent email stating if you are showing symptoms stay home, management Lysoling everyone's desks/keyboards and we're probably all working from home next week, playing by ear. Prudent.
When you start getting emails from a florist you used five years ago stating that they are taking appropriate measures to ensure our safety, you know people are mostly just retarded creatures. I mean this is peak herd mentality mixed with social media narcissism.
Sometimes I think that maybe the majority of people would be better off subjugated by some kind of benevolent God emperor.
Sheeple have gone nuts over this.
Kevin Smith, is that you?
My company just dropped the threat of disciplinary action if you're seen less than six feet from a co worker.
Such a clown show.
The corrupt media has won. Plain and simple!
There's just too many useful idiots out there. The misleadia can convince them of anything, like Russian collusion, or going to war with Saudi Arabia because they killed one of their own citizens.
My Company didn't go that far, but give them time.
For the next 30 days -
-No large gatherings of employees (Operating Reviews and employee training is cancelled)
-Any employee who appears to be sick is to be sent home (HR is to be notified and Employee must see a doctor and get a statement from the Doctor stating they are Wuhan free before being allowed to return to work.)
-No air travel for employees, (Sales and Managers may still travel within their perspective business units by car as needed. They encourage web conferencing for staff meetings, and interviews)
-Make sure to clean and wipe down offices daily (Like spray Lysol on common area surfaces and wipe down clean.)
Want to know a great way to spread a virus? Order people to gather in the same spot for checks.
Thats against the law.
And the first time that screening catches somebody who tried to come to work with the virus it won’t seem like so much of an overreaction.
I like the ring of "coronatard"
One of my clients have delayed a go-live because of the virus.
Their original go-live was scheduled for the end of July.
I am wondering when it will start to hit the VA Hospitals. I have not seen any reports of the virus there. My husband is a Vietnam Vet with lots of underlying problems. He has not had a VA appointment since this started but we have one coming up in April. Usually that place is a petrie dish.
The worst part of this is you saying you have to take personal time. What about sick time? Or just extra paid sick time? (As POTUS has suggested.)
Honk honk
my employer just did a work from home policy, much better practice
I once sat next to a hypochondriac.
After 6 months of that, I can no longer stand the smell of Lysol. Makes me sneeze.
I work in a Hospital, I feel your pain. A bunch of fuck tards. What about the Flu? Silence....
Ironically, the waiting room in the er would be the best place to contract it.
Same here. I’m a food delivery guy and since I work outside in the real world I can potentially be contaminated. I’m not allowed inside my place of work starting Monday. I have to wait outside and a manager will come out and give me my paperwork and whatnot and then off I go.
No big deal, just overreaction. The only annoying thing is we have a locker room to change so I usually come to work in sneakers and shorts and change into my uniform and steel toes boots once I get there.
That same thing just came down at my place of work. Luckily, I had seen my doc 2 days before and my paperwork was still in my purse. I guess we have to jump through hoops because the MSM propaganda machine is in full force scaring everyone while so many more are suffering from the flu. The media says the sky is green and everyone will believe it. Lemmings.....
Even when logic and data is front and center, and the knowledge that many more people will perish from the FLU, people still panic.
I believe these same people who panic over corona virus panic over everything else too.
These are not the strong, well balanced people of our world, but the ones who cause chaos when the situation hardly warrants more than just being diligent.
Seems like all standing in line with close contact would cause more issues than just having coworkers tell if another coworker is not feeling well. I normally work remote by design and on conference calls you can even tell when coworkers are not feeling well.
Ride the tardwave
if they want you to video in say you aren't feeling good, go in with your glasses crooked, drooling, hair messed up... they'll tell you to log off and get sleep
it could just be regular flu or something you ate...but just to make sure take all the time you need....on thedonald.win
Damn! Who do you work for, Hitler?
They're making everyone use a COV19 test just due to a temperature? If they've not been traveling or anywhere near any COV19 that's basically wasting a test.
Aren't people far more likely to get the flu than COV19 unless they've been traveling or in large groups of people.
Should be AFTER clock-in, the test takes time to process and will cost hours...but other precautions make sense until we hit a peak...it’s a bit more than common sense but not too bad compared to some precautions being taken.
Im a college sports official, I lost my entire baseball schedule. Thousands of dollars down the tube. Fuckin sucks, all over a virus that none of the people involved in these sports would hardly even have trouble getting over.
Mine hasn't gone quite that nuts, but there are daily meetings, updates, new policies and procedures, etc...
You're lucky your work place isn't shut down completely. Someone at a company we deal with came to work with the virus after the person's parents came back from Italy infected.
You don't get to define your own terms. Show how your terminology matches the data.