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It has the 'potential' to be catastrophic but there's no need to panic like sheep and purchase all the fucking toilet paper in the country overnight...
Prepare a couple weeks of food/liquid in case you get sick and need to quarantine yourself. Wash your hands, cover your mouth with a cloth if you cough or sneeze and don't spit all over the place like the Chinese.
It's just common fucking courtesy, like if you got the flu.
Except worse. Yesterday every one of the stores in my town, and there are several, ran out of toilet paper, paper towels and tissue. They've been out of hand sanitizer for a week.
Go to Advance auto parts and buy blue shop towels and gojo hand soap, that shit'll get 3 day old diesel grease off your hands, definitely sufficient for germs.
I bet if you made a Venn diagram of the folks who spent half a paycheck on toilet paper and the folks who constantly whine that they can never get ahead of their bills it would line up perfectly.
I know a Fudd that thinks hes a qualified authority to speak about gun control and support it, because his dad gave him a non-functioning pistol when he turned 18. Seriously.
Exactly. People do the TP thing because it gives them a small sense of control over something that is totally unseen and uncontrollable. Same reason people are self-quarantining for absolutely no reason.
When Japan got its first few wuhan coronavirus infections there was some social media posts there warning of a toilet paper shortage and they had a a small run on toilet paper. Taiwan and South Korea followed them a little, but Australia heard about it and just went all out and took it to the next level. Now people in America who are starting to panic look on the internet they see Australians brawling in the supermarket and think we too are going to have a toilet paper shortage.
It's a self fulfilling prophesy. People freak out and think there's going to be a shortage so they all run to the store and hoard it which creates the actual shortage they were so scared of. Now normal people have to get into fistfights in walmart if they want to avoid having to shower every time they shit.
Buying essentials - toilet paper, soap, tooth paste, etc. so you don't have to stand in line with a bunch of infected people. I lived through many hurricanes when I lived in Florida and learned that people have no idea how to prepare. Hurricane season approaching - smart people already prepped. 1 week out - hurricane coming average Joes prepping. 1 day out - NPCs scrambling. 1 week later when there is still no power - dumb asses in line for water, milk, bread but didn't take out cash and store only takes cash because electricity is out.
Two weeks ago (when I re-stocked essentials) - there was no hand sanitizer and no face masks/respirator filters to be found.
Yesterday (when I was buying party food) - no hand sanitizer, no masks/filters, no TP, no paper towels, no kleenex, no bleach wipes, no bleach, no bottled water, no antibacterial hand soap, no rubbing alcohol, no alcohol swabs. Lots of empty spots on other shelves that I didn't recognize.
That's crazy. Is this like a big city thing or are you near an epicenter? I havent seen anything like that in my rural town, half the people don't even know it exists
I did it back in December. Been buying a small amount of essentials and canned goods every week, but I dont think the stores where I live will run out, people are behaving like normal human beings here. But the city 1,5 hours away have lots of empty stores lol
I don't want to feed the hysteria, but that might not be quite enough for this right now. If it turns out that you've been exposed and have to self-quarantine, that's 14 days right there. If, for example you or someone in your household comes down with the virus on day five or if your particular area got hit with a mandatory quarantine (God forbid), you might run short. I'm not saying join the madness and buy enough stuff to build a fort in your living room, but over the next couple weeks just buy a little extra of the non-perishable stuff that you use regularly anyhow.
Actually in conservative author John Ringo's "Under a Graveyard Sky", the protagonists have a slight advanced warning of a Zombie apocalypse and stock the hell up on toilet paper, water, disinfectants, food, and a whole bunch of other items.
Cryogenic freezing units are selling out too in Hollywood, the elites will be woken up when this is all over or when Trump is ousted from office, whichever comes first.
If there's one silver lining in this hysterical shitstorm, it's that maybe people will start quarantining themselves for normal colds and flus as common practice.
The milder strains of the virus are more likely to have already been self-selected, because those with serious symptoms wouldn't be able to travel (regardless of the level of health screening at the airport). If hard lock-downs are imposed, it would further put pressure on the more extreme strains of the virus. Basically, as time goes on, as long as the healthcare systems are not overwhelmed, wuflu is controllable. The bigger problem is how to solve the drawdown on the economy, but let's face it, Trump is in his element on this kind of economic baseball.
Typically people will go on splurges/vacations ect after a panic goes away because its a boost to the mental psyche. Right now the media is making the general population feel less secure, far less than anything. Although at the same time, you can leverage the panic to help blunt this disease.
OK, see this is what is messing with people's minds.
Yes, the raw data shows 2 - 3% mortality rates, but its incredibly irresponsible reporting when you consider the VAST MAJORITY of deaths are among elderly and immunocompromised patients.
Now I know some people will scream "OH! So you don't care about our grandmas and sick kids! You HITLER RACIST!!!"......
But that's not what its about. Its about being HONEST when discussing RISK for those infected.
We don't know the actual numbers of infections. We can only extrapolate fatality percentages/numbers from COVID-19 based on -
Tested cases
Deaths
The real interesting number is... what is the death rate among ALL infected? Only those most critically symptomatic are the ones seeking and needing the greatest treatment.
So, for example, every person suffering acute respiratory ailment, are there 5 who also have the virus, but are largely asymptomatic/mildly symptomatic? 10? 20? 100?
We don't know. But common sense would suggest this is the case. Even the numbers of the H1N1 outbreaks, as far as total numbers infected, are extrapolations from statistical data.
One scary thing is that we are hearing about younger people who need ventilation and assisted breathing. That’s fine if your medical system has capacity. The worry isn’t so much the virus itself, but rather a massive surge of sick people all at the same time. There are not infinite bed, equipment or medical personnel to cope with a surge in demand.
The second scary thing is there is some evidence that people recover but may have permanent lung damage. There is also evidence that the virus attacks the heart and maybe kidneys. There could be long term repercussions which we don’t know right now. So still sensible IMO to try to limit the spread.
I don't know a single, sensible person disagreeing with this notion.
There are not infinite bed, equipment or medical personnel to cope with a surge in demand.
Your points about overloading the medical system are precisely why limiting the panic is important. People are showing up to ERs with the common cold and backing up the system.
Agreed. And social distancing is a shitty but reasonable response. There are so many idiots on the left provoking panic and DRUMPF DID IT. But there are also a shit-ton of idiots on this site downplaying the risks, which I am worrying is going to intensify this in the long run. We need to take reasonable precautions, and I think the cancellations of events is an unfortunate but necessary response. My sister's wedding was supposed to be in NYC next weekend. We cancelled it, I think reasonably so, because I DO NOT want my grandfather to come and then spread this shit to his entire retirement community. We don't have to be commies to come together as a nation and make sacrifices for the common good. That's called being a real American if you ask me.
All the people partying on St Paddy's day were not trying to limit the spread :P
And I agree that we shouldn't panic. Try not to use the medical system unless you have to. But a million serious infections are going to flood ERs all by themselves, regardless of time-wasters. You might not be able to get NEAR a hospital soon.
The media is ridiculous and I'm 100% sure it's being politicized.. But these numbers are only a sample. We really don't know what they will look like by the end of the year. The flu cases cited are a full year.
On the other hand, the "outbreak" may be "worse" than we know... In the sense that more people have actually been exposed the virus but have shown mild symptoms. This would mean that by the end of the year, we'd probably settle on a more realistic fatality rate under 1%. I personally think it's irresponsible for the media to have been throwing out 3-4% fatality rates with so little data.
I have a bit more faith in the Human immune system. The majority of us will be fine. My main concern is keeping high risk individuals safe, so we should be taking some common sense precautions.
The fatality rate is WAY below 1%. Take a look at India:
"87 Confirmed cases - 4 Recoveries - 2 Deaths".
Do you seriously think that in a country of 1.3 Billion where the streets are crowded and people live on top of each other and most people can't even afford a meal let alone a trip to the hospital ... has only 87 confirmed cases???
Come on. MILLIONS of Indians probably have it by now, and they probably don't even know it because they're already immune since India is full of bats anyway.
Bats, homeless people, shit and piss everywhere, lots of Muslims, yeah this thing would have spread so fast in India and the fact it hasnt should basically put the lid on this whole bs fearmongering scam by the media but people are exceptionally dumb nowadays.
RN here. I'll go ahead and tell you all now, from a healthcare worker perspective, we do not have the resources or infrastructure to handle this if/when it gets to a level like Italy. We will start rationing care like they are in Italy.
People need to start taking precautions now. Do not panic, but be safe and diligent with this.
WASH YOU HANDS WITH SOAP AND WATER! Look at the prevention tips on the CDC website. Essential oils will not help you.
We will start rationing care like they are in Italy.
Yeah, that's called triage, as I'm sure you know. It's a fact of life because healthcare resources are never unlimited. If you're critically ill in America, you will get treatment regardless of your ability to pay. Why should we care if only the really sick people get tested? If you just have the sniffles there's nothing you need to do differently than if you have the flu. Wash your hands, take a few sick days, get bed rest and stay hydrated. What doesn't help the situation is when every panicked fool with a runny nose starts making a run on hospital services. This disease is far, far less concerning than something like Ebola or rabies or AIDS, but to hear the media tell the tale you'd think it was the second coming of the Black Death.
It's never a good time to be an old person. We've been getting left to die since the beginning of time. Such is life. It's not like respirators grow on magic trees that are being hoarded by greedy capitalists. There's always going to be a limit to healthcare resources, some strain on the system that results in difficult triage, and the young will always be prioritized because they have the best chances of survival and the most life unlived. We agree on the need for reduced social contact to flatten the curve, it's just a matter of whether we're going to achieve this goal through education or by force. The question before us now is really how much liberty we're willing to sacrifice for a little temporary security. Personally, my answer as an elderly American patriot is: none. Somebody has to pay the bloody price of freedom, and I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
"Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for Thou art with me."
Where are the videos of the people dying in Italy? I havnt seen any at all. I see NO MEDIA showing sick people. No leaked videos of overflowing hospitals? Pretty sus.
This is what I love about you all. On Reddit libtard sites they will never ask for sources on anything. Here data is always challenged if presented without a source.
Pretty much. I've been here 3 months since Win started. Haven't hesitated to ask, nay, demand a source or (kindly) DEMAMD a source. (They are fellow pedes, I'm not too hard on em, I love em). I'm not into fear mongering or opinion based realities.
The reason i asked is because the corona virus stats are just starting out while the H1N1 stats for finalized. Its not an apple to apple comparison. Better stats would be when both presidents called them pandemics.
The reason i asked is because this is somewhat misleading. The H1N1 stats are after it finished but the corona is only growing so a better stat sheet would be when both presidents called them officially pandemics.
The reason Italy has a high mortality rate, partially its the "Universal healthcare", but majority of Italy's population is just freaking old.
I mean look at S.Korea would probably be a better case study. The mortality rate for 70+ is high however the younger you go the less impact it has.
Companies in the U.S have already stated that they can meet demand for ventilators.
There's also another issue, the U.S is a bunch of hypochondriacs (so am I). So a sneeze, cough, or fever is going to push people to rush to the ER because of this virus. Right now the best thing we can do is avoid Grandma and Grandpa.
If there's one medical youtuber I'd point to is Medcram right now. He's so far talking about how Resveritol (Antivirus) that was created to fight Ebola might be the antiviral we need to halt the Wuflu. That antivirus is going on trials right now currently. So we might see an antivirus within the next month (as many were already saying 6 weeks, two weeks ago). Lets hope this failed Ebola Vaccine is exactly what we need. So we should pray that this antivirus works on those who are having it administered currently.
Yes! Trump saying that everyone can get tested as calmed because now you have a choice of you want to be tested. Abundance. It’s that choice we can make.
The Health Departments only wanted to test those who met a criteria and people started to bitch.
You give that comfort of choice, people calm down. It’s a simple test and we have the supplies.
All good bro. Try not to get your feelings to wrapped in a take though. Emotional investment in a standpoint is part of the reason folks throw shill all over the place. It certainly could be far worse than we think. It could be a preview or prepper for something worse. Issue is we dont know and dont have the amount of needed test kits to find out. Nor is testing everyone really helpful in a person hopping contagious flu like virus to just have solid numbers.
If your elderly and have respiratory issues it's a very dangerous flu. Vast amounts of panic and toilet paper isnt going to help that though.
I dont think current numbers are super helpful, how many folks think they just have a cold?
There is talk between the two extremes, but the extreams is what gets our attention. Let it slide bud, say your peace and keep going if it gets you riled.
President Trump created the coronavirus taskforce while the Shampeachment and witness vote was going on in the House and Senate. He's taken it seriously but not been a chicken little about it. I've said it before that the virus is real but the panic is manufactured. Being calm doesn't mean you aren't prepared or sober to a situation.
For completely selfish reasons I’m hoping the stock market stays low for just a bit longer. My work has a stock sharing program where they give you a discounted price and use a bank loan to buy 10 times what you paid for. Your initial investment is guaranteed by the bank in exchange for dividends for 5 years, and you have to hold the stocks for that long. The starting price is set in early May, and based on their payout formulas, at the end of five years, I stand to make over 5 times my initial investment(limited to around $900 a year, sadly) if the price is set where it is now and only bounces back to where it was before the corona scare. Could get up to over 7 or 8 times if it increases from there at the rate it has since 2016.
Well if it makes you feel better, if it becomes some sort of global pandemic it still is only truly fatal for the elderly or infirm, which sucks but isn't world-stopping. And then November comes around, and everyone has a choice between people that have been talking about abolishing borders for 4 years and someone who has been trying like hell to build a wall and shut China out. Then there's the all-important down ticket elections. Those are critical, and are often carried by national party leadership.
Any globalist with a lick of political sense would have never hyped a pandemic virus in this context. Bummer the smart ones are either dead or senile with age and TDS, and the new crop are abject retards.
The National Emergency allows him to use a lot more money and resources for this. The POTUS is doing his best to PREVENT this from becoming a very big deal, which right this moment its really not, its the media that are making this the big deal. He didn't cave, he's just doing everything recommended by his team to keep deaths as minimal as possible.
Yes, we’re in the proactive phase, which makes it appear we’re overreacting to nothing. But mark my words, when we watch the devastation this is going to cause to countries who are reacting to the virus, instead of being proactive, GEOTUS will look like Nostradamus.
Italy is the first indicator of how bad things can be. If you don’t get out in front of this virus it will kick your ass. When 20% of cases require hospitalization, that’s gonna overwhelm your medical system in short order, once the doubling rate reaches into the thousands.
A lot of people aren't being logical. There is clearly a big issue - but the reactionaries amongst us are overplaying their hand by concluding: "If Democrats say this is bad, it must be fake!"
People aren't downplaying this because of what Democrats are saying, it's cause the virus causes mild symptoms on healthy people, and it's killed only 38 people, 29 in one single fucking nursing home. This is definitely way overblown
I'm sorry, but it's a circlejerk. Dems said some things and many people decided that a flippant dismissal of the situation was the best response. Trump never said the virus was a hoax and many people from the media but also in our community as well, misread his tone.
Trump has closed the US border basically. You should stop going around saying it's overblown. You're attempting to reduce the factors down to a tiny window of possibilities and it's frankly getting tired
It may not be as bad as the worst case scenario, but the logistical and economic impacts alone are massive. It has the potential to cause a lot of human harm and we don't even know it's long term effects. Plus, we already have a pretty crazy flu season and this just adds to it.
It's an actual viral contagion, overlaid with blankets of overblown hype. It's both.
We're canceling life for this month to see what happens. No movies, date nights out, we both work at home, etc. just to see if we can be in the 40-50% who never catches it. Just because I'm the worst puss ever when it comes to being sick with cold or flu. :) There, I said it
I'm not frightened of dying. Why should I be frightened? We've all got to go sometime.
I've been getting the same treatment, from people that don't understand the potential.
Taking proactive measures is NOT panic.
And no, I'm not talking about washing your hands and not touching your face.
Avoid large gatherings of people, especially ones where you have close contact (less than 6-10 feet).
A city near me has banned gatherings of more than 500 people. A local megachurch is "complying" by splitting their congregation into sets of 499 people, in practically adjoining rooms. That's irresponsible.
If you are not feeling well, stay home.
This is good advice anytime, but especially true now. If you aren't feeling well, you are probably already contagious, with whatever you have.
If you develop the symptoms of COVID-19 (you can find them online), try to get tested.
Many have asked: why bother? They aren't going to do anything different for me!
THAT'S IRRESPONSIBLE.
The purpose of testing is to determine if your local health dept. should track down your close contacts in the past few days. If you test positive, you have a contagious disease that has no treatment, and some people will die if they catch it from you. The early warning may save someone close to you.
And, before you say: I don't have elderly relatives! It isn't just the elderly. Anyone with a compromised immune system is vulnerable, and you won't necessarily know if your friend or co-worker is compromised. Treatment for rheumatoid arthritis, Crohn's, multiple sclerosis is an immunosuppressant like Enbrel or Humira. The middle-aged guy next door could be vulnerable, and you'd never know it.
But, the real reason for contact tracing is to isolate and prevent THEM from spreading it further. This is the only way to SLOW the spread of the virus, until a vaccine can be developed.
And you're put in this point where you have to listen to CNN, MSNBC, NYT, etc as our (especially dem) lawmakers, mayors, and others make policy based on their reports.
Now do this same chart again, but only do H1N1 stats for the same duration as CV-19 has been making the rounds. Comparing 2 months to 12 months like they are equal is some Bernie Sanders level shit.
The virus is real, the media is fake. I realize that most of us here understand that and do the digging we have to in order to find the truth. Many, many, many people don't know or care about that and let the msm plan their lives for them.
FORGET what the Democrats said, it was a given. Of course they'd blame Trump and pile on.
Do NOT let that distract you from the actual dangers the virus poses. Do not get lulled into false senses of equivalence with past or existing viruses.
The Democrats probably WANT you to double down, get silly, spite the issue and then they can turn around and accuse you of really making it worse.
Pray, study, prepare. This isn't really about Trump so don't let Democrats make it about Trump.
Plus, hindsight on outbreaks really doesn’t tell you much, since we can’t really tell if it was the plan that kept the outbreaks from being worse, or if they never would have been that bad to begin with.
The best outcome for us would be to look back on this and think we overreacted, because that meant we did enough, and then a bit more just to be sure.
I don't think the US has overreacted. Stopping travel from China etc was a world leading move and other countries followed suit. Those that didn't now have major problems.
This probably won't be nearly as bad as swine flu either. Mortality rates in Korea where they've had a stellar response to treating the infected are actually way lower than previously expected. Basically if you don't have an underlying resperatory problem you'll be fine.
USA at this point is way, way worse than Korea ever was. We just don’t know it yet.
Korea immediately implemented social distancing measures to limit the spread. That stops the healthcare system becoming overwhelmed. Korea also has 6x as many hospital beds per capita as the US.
Europe and America, on the other hand, have done nothing so far. Likely 100,000+ cases in the US by now. The risk isn’t really the virus itself being super deadly. It’s the fact that a surge of people getting all sick at the same time is going to break the medical system.
If there's a 100k people infected with this then that puts the mortality rate at less than 0.01%. Which means this virus is a nothing burger. You alarmists have no fucking idea what your talking about.
Holy fuck, were there really 60 million cases of H1N1 in the US alone? I don't really remember anything from that period, probably because the MSM didn't cover it nowhere near as much as this current "pandemic".
Is the coronavirus just THAT much stronger than swine flu? Because it just seems like the media/deep state is just operating of off potentials and maybes, seems like no one knows for sure but these numbers are something else.
But then you got ebola which also got this kinda fear-mongering, so much so that I had 6 hours to implement an "US-based solution for Epic based customers." Which never got any hits because people fucking lie.
That meme is being censored on Facebook. Says that the number of deaths are inaccurate. They match exactly with the CDC website numbers. Fuck Facebook.
The virus doesnt kill 1 in 35 lol in most cases you dont even know you have it, the mortality rate is 2% for those who have gone to hospital and been diagnosed with Covid 19 which would be the sickest of people, do you really think everyone who had covid 19 went to the hopital considering most people have very mild cases? If you do then have I got some fine antique china im willing to sell you.
Yup. It's a bit dishonest to use numbers in their current state. Covid-19 appears to have a much higher growth rate than other illnesses. There is less herd immunity and absence of symptoms during initial days. It's hard to judge things at the beginning of an exponential curve, so it's better being careful.
I think the media IS definitely spreading panic in glee. I think there is quite a bit of overreaction... That doesn't change the potential danger here though.
Agreed. Obongo could have done better. But covid19 is actually more concerning. Though I agree with OP, the media has people insane with fear porn right now.
I'm continually amazed how much ill will the ruling class has for this country, and their willingness to impose misery and death on their fellow citizens just to maintain their wealth and power.
I AM NOT CONCERN TROLLING...but fact is, this COULD get bad if proper steps were not taken. However, since we have an incredible president that is taking unprecedented steps to prevent the spread, hopefully it does not get out of control, IE ITALY and the country of origin....CHINA. YES THIS IS FROM CHINA. DEAL WITH IT SHILLS
They are a little heavy-handed on issues where they shouldn't be. I was watching a news report this morning on the outbreak in Italy, and if the numbers they reported were right, the percentage of known cases that resulted in death was about 6% or so.
Even if the numbers are right, the actual mortality rate would be lower as it isn't accounting for those that have the virus but only have mild symptoms and never got tested
I dont want another H1N1, i dont give a fuck about the medias biased opinion, if Trump says shelter in place, ima shelter in place, he hasnt steered us wrong yet.
I have battered reasonable person syndrome. The psyops is so intense. I remember feeling this way hearing the news in the run up to the election in 2016 I had to TURN IT OFF! Now more than ever I need you mu online friends.
TO be fair we only have stats for infection and death rate for a couple months worth. We need to wait a couple years to see a true reporting. 2mon of beginning of exponential curve , vs a year of results...
Exactly!!!! Good point!!!!! Funny how they tried to memory hole this one- I had completely forgot! They’re trying to crash the economy and stock market by causing Orsen Wells level widespread panic!
You'll instantly have a bunch of neckbeards and blue haired dykes instantly go
But the mortality rate!
2.85% is way worse than 0.03%!
It has the 'potential' to be catastrophic but there's no need to panic like sheep and purchase all the fucking toilet paper in the country overnight...
Prepare a couple weeks of food/liquid in case you get sick and need to quarantine yourself. Wash your hands, cover your mouth with a cloth if you cough or sneeze and don't spit all over the place like the Chinese.
It's just common fucking courtesy, like if you got the flu.
IT'S A RESPIRATORY AILMENT
SOMEBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN THE TOILET PAPER HYSTERIA TO ME
WHAT ARE YOU FUCKERS DOING
Except worse. Yesterday every one of the stores in my town, and there are several, ran out of toilet paper, paper towels and tissue. They've been out of hand sanitizer for a week.
Order a bidet, cheap one is like $35 and attaches to your existing toilet.
Lol those fucking sea shells
I mean you could always just curse at an Alexa...right?
3 sea shells?
What's the reference
Go to Advance auto parts and buy blue shop towels and gojo hand soap, that shit'll get 3 day old diesel grease off your hands, definitely sufficient for germs.
Time to invest in JJ, 3M, and Cisco.
😂😂
Coronavirus version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfznPscaiDQ
I bet if you made a Venn diagram of the folks who spent half a paycheck on toilet paper and the folks who constantly whine that they can never get ahead of their bills it would line up perfectly.
That’s liberals for you.
That's a damn fine anal analogy.
I know a Fudd that thinks hes a qualified authority to speak about gun control and support it, because his dad gave him a non-functioning pistol when he turned 18. Seriously.
My grandpa gave me a revolver that works when I was 14, fudd boy needs to learn how america works.
Exactly. People do the TP thing because it gives them a small sense of control over something that is totally unseen and uncontrollable. Same reason people are self-quarantining for absolutely no reason.
I don't know that's the same reason. People can "self-quarantine" for all kinds of dumb reasons.
I mean my stockpile of canned goods is mostly beans, so that's definitely a possiblity.
The best answer right here
When Japan got its first few wuhan coronavirus infections there was some social media posts there warning of a toilet paper shortage and they had a a small run on toilet paper. Taiwan and South Korea followed them a little, but Australia heard about it and just went all out and took it to the next level. Now people in America who are starting to panic look on the internet they see Australians brawling in the supermarket and think we too are going to have a toilet paper shortage.
It's a self fulfilling prophesy. People freak out and think there's going to be a shortage so they all run to the store and hoard it which creates the actual shortage they were so scared of. Now normal people have to get into fistfights in walmart if they want to avoid having to shower every time they shit.
It's easy, when one person sneezes 4 people shit their pants!
Just imagining this orchestra playing out is quite funny
Funny!
Underrated
Buying essentials - toilet paper, soap, tooth paste, etc. so you don't have to stand in line with a bunch of infected people. I lived through many hurricanes when I lived in Florida and learned that people have no idea how to prepare. Hurricane season approaching - smart people already prepped. 1 week out - hurricane coming average Joes prepping. 1 day out - NPCs scrambling. 1 week later when there is still no power - dumb asses in line for water, milk, bread but didn't take out cash and store only takes cash because electricity is out.
I prepared two weeks ago because I knew this would happen.
Ditto.
Two weeks ago (when I re-stocked essentials) - there was no hand sanitizer and no face masks/respirator filters to be found.
Yesterday (when I was buying party food) - no hand sanitizer, no masks/filters, no TP, no paper towels, no kleenex, no bleach wipes, no bleach, no bottled water, no antibacterial hand soap, no rubbing alcohol, no alcohol swabs. Lots of empty spots on other shelves that I didn't recognize.
That's crazy. Is this like a big city thing or are you near an epicenter? I havent seen anything like that in my rural town, half the people don't even know it exists
I did it back in December. Been buying a small amount of essentials and canned goods every week, but I dont think the stores where I live will run out, people are behaving like normal human beings here. But the city 1,5 hours away have lots of empty stores lol
This is why you buy such essentials in big box stores so you always have a big supply year long. Also, they’re super cheap. 👍😁
THIS 👆 Every single time.
I don't want to feed the hysteria, but that might not be quite enough for this right now. If it turns out that you've been exposed and have to self-quarantine, that's 14 days right there. If, for example you or someone in your household comes down with the virus on day five or if your particular area got hit with a mandatory quarantine (God forbid), you might run short. I'm not saying join the madness and buy enough stuff to build a fort in your living room, but over the next couple weeks just buy a little extra of the non-perishable stuff that you use regularly anyhow.
The Corona virus is going to take out our electricity? Oh no! It's so much deadlier than we ever realized!
Out of all the apocalyptic movies I have seen, a shortage of toilet paper was never an issue. That's how I know this is all fake.
The toilet paper company conspiracy!
Actually in conservative author John Ringo's "Under a Graveyard Sky", the protagonists have a slight advanced warning of a Zombie apocalypse and stock the hell up on toilet paper, water, disinfectants, food, and a whole bunch of other items.
Cryogenic freezing units are selling out too in Hollywood, the elites will be woken up when this is all over or when Trump is ousted from office, whichever comes first.
If there's one silver lining in this hysterical shitstorm, it's that maybe people will start quarantining themselves for normal colds and flus as common practice.
What's everyone doing with all that toilet paper? You cant eat it.
Does the wuhan flu make you shit yourself nonstop for 14 days?
Someone needs to invent reusable toilet tissue. The only ones who dare reuse right now are extreme cheapskates.
This has turned into a real "SHIT POSTING" ! Every issue always begins with the mouth and ends with the ass.
COVID-19 CFR (global) = 3.48%
COVID-19 CFR (China) = 3.86%
COVID-19 CFR (USA) = 2.52%
Whose healthcare system is handling this better? Socialism only makes sure that everyone is equally fucked.
If you strip Washington state cases and deaths out (mostly related to one nursing home outbreak), the mortality rate in the U.S. is actually 0.7%.
Thank you for pointing that out.
You cough, you die - Chinese Health Officials
Oh except you Mr. Cheg, your family paid us 2000 USD to save you- Same Chinese Health Official.
The milder strains of the virus are more likely to have already been self-selected, because those with serious symptoms wouldn't be able to travel (regardless of the level of health screening at the airport). If hard lock-downs are imposed, it would further put pressure on the more extreme strains of the virus. Basically, as time goes on, as long as the healthcare systems are not overwhelmed, wuflu is controllable. The bigger problem is how to solve the drawdown on the economy, but let's face it, Trump is in his element on this kind of economic baseball.
Oh, the economy will spike right after this.
Typically people will go on splurges/vacations ect after a panic goes away because its a boost to the mental psyche. Right now the media is making the general population feel less secure, far less than anything. Although at the same time, you can leverage the panic to help blunt this disease.
OK, see this is what is messing with people's minds.
Yes, the raw data shows 2 - 3% mortality rates, but its incredibly irresponsible reporting when you consider the VAST MAJORITY of deaths are among elderly and immunocompromised patients.
Now I know some people will scream "OH! So you don't care about our grandmas and sick kids! You HITLER RACIST!!!"......
But that's not what its about. Its about being HONEST when discussing RISK for those infected.
PLUS -
We don't know the actual numbers of infections. We can only extrapolate fatality percentages/numbers from COVID-19 based on -
Tested cases
Deaths
The real interesting number is... what is the death rate among ALL infected? Only those most critically symptomatic are the ones seeking and needing the greatest treatment.
So, for example, every person suffering acute respiratory ailment, are there 5 who also have the virus, but are largely asymptomatic/mildly symptomatic? 10? 20? 100?
We don't know. But common sense would suggest this is the case. Even the numbers of the H1N1 outbreaks, as far as total numbers infected, are extrapolations from statistical data.
Agreed
Believe me, you don't have to explain this stuff to me. Its what I've been screaming at my TV and monitor for weeks now haha!!!
Unfortunately the media screams are louder at this point. I wish cooler heads prevailed, but it seems that ship has sailed since 2016.
One scary thing is that we are hearing about younger people who need ventilation and assisted breathing. That’s fine if your medical system has capacity. The worry isn’t so much the virus itself, but rather a massive surge of sick people all at the same time. There are not infinite bed, equipment or medical personnel to cope with a surge in demand.
The second scary thing is there is some evidence that people recover but may have permanent lung damage. There is also evidence that the virus attacks the heart and maybe kidneys. There could be long term repercussions which we don’t know right now. So still sensible IMO to try to limit the spread.
I don't know a single, sensible person disagreeing with this notion.
Your points about overloading the medical system are precisely why limiting the panic is important. People are showing up to ERs with the common cold and backing up the system.
Agreed. And social distancing is a shitty but reasonable response. There are so many idiots on the left provoking panic and DRUMPF DID IT. But there are also a shit-ton of idiots on this site downplaying the risks, which I am worrying is going to intensify this in the long run. We need to take reasonable precautions, and I think the cancellations of events is an unfortunate but necessary response. My sister's wedding was supposed to be in NYC next weekend. We cancelled it, I think reasonably so, because I DO NOT want my grandfather to come and then spread this shit to his entire retirement community. We don't have to be commies to come together as a nation and make sacrifices for the common good. That's called being a real American if you ask me.
All the people partying on St Paddy's day were not trying to limit the spread :P
And I agree that we shouldn't panic. Try not to use the medical system unless you have to. But a million serious infections are going to flood ERs all by themselves, regardless of time-wasters. You might not be able to get NEAR a hospital soon.
The media is ridiculous and I'm 100% sure it's being politicized.. But these numbers are only a sample. We really don't know what they will look like by the end of the year. The flu cases cited are a full year.
On the other hand, the "outbreak" may be "worse" than we know... In the sense that more people have actually been exposed the virus but have shown mild symptoms. This would mean that by the end of the year, we'd probably settle on a more realistic fatality rate under 1%. I personally think it's irresponsible for the media to have been throwing out 3-4% fatality rates with so little data.
I have a bit more faith in the Human immune system. The majority of us will be fine. My main concern is keeping high risk individuals safe, so we should be taking some common sense precautions.
The fatality rate is WAY below 1%. Take a look at India:
"87 Confirmed cases - 4 Recoveries - 2 Deaths".
Do you seriously think that in a country of 1.3 Billion where the streets are crowded and people live on top of each other and most people can't even afford a meal let alone a trip to the hospital ... has only 87 confirmed cases???
Come on. MILLIONS of Indians probably have it by now, and they probably don't even know it because they're already immune since India is full of bats anyway.
Fake news!
Bats, homeless people, shit and piss everywhere, lots of Muslims, yeah this thing would have spread so fast in India and the fact it hasnt should basically put the lid on this whole bs fearmongering scam by the media but people are exceptionally dumb nowadays.
You forgot the Simp Soyboys too,
Yes and Facebook marks it as false info (inb4 fuck facebook, no shit).
RN here. I'll go ahead and tell you all now, from a healthcare worker perspective, we do not have the resources or infrastructure to handle this if/when it gets to a level like Italy. We will start rationing care like they are in Italy.
People need to start taking precautions now. Do not panic, but be safe and diligent with this.
WASH YOU HANDS WITH SOAP AND WATER! Look at the prevention tips on the CDC website. Essential oils will not help you.
Yeah, that's called triage, as I'm sure you know. It's a fact of life because healthcare resources are never unlimited. If you're critically ill in America, you will get treatment regardless of your ability to pay. Why should we care if only the really sick people get tested? If you just have the sniffles there's nothing you need to do differently than if you have the flu. Wash your hands, take a few sick days, get bed rest and stay hydrated. What doesn't help the situation is when every panicked fool with a runny nose starts making a run on hospital services. This disease is far, far less concerning than something like Ebola or rabies or AIDS, but to hear the media tell the tale you'd think it was the second coming of the Black Death.
With socialized medicine, every idiot would be running to the doctor several times a month
But that's a good thing!!! /s
If you're not a junkie or a promiscuous gay, AIDS isn't concerning at all.
The problem is that there won't be enough ventilators for all the pneumonia sufferers and some people will just be left to die.
It's not a good time to be an old person.
It's never a good time to be an old person. We've been getting left to die since the beginning of time. Such is life. It's not like respirators grow on magic trees that are being hoarded by greedy capitalists. There's always going to be a limit to healthcare resources, some strain on the system that results in difficult triage, and the young will always be prioritized because they have the best chances of survival and the most life unlived. We agree on the need for reduced social contact to flatten the curve, it's just a matter of whether we're going to achieve this goal through education or by force. The question before us now is really how much liberty we're willing to sacrifice for a little temporary security. Personally, my answer as an elderly American patriot is: none. Somebody has to pay the bloody price of freedom, and I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
"Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for Thou art with me."
but bernie said healtcare is a right!
This is how bioterrorism works. The news starts a panic and EVERYONE floods the ER. Those who NEED the ER can’t get to it and die.
So if you’re having a heart attack, stroke etc or in an accident, you’re fucked.
Where are the videos of the people dying in Italy? I havnt seen any at all. I see NO MEDIA showing sick people. No leaked videos of overflowing hospitals? Pretty sus.
The videos I saw of the empty streets in Italy were all dark, as if taken at night
You've never seen a Virus with the naked eye - so don't worry yourself.
Oregano oil over here
Are there sources on these stats?
This is what I love about you all. On Reddit libtard sites they will never ask for sources on anything. Here data is always challenged if presented without a source.
Pretty much. I've been here 3 months since Win started. Haven't hesitated to ask, nay, demand a source or (kindly) DEMAMD a source. (They are fellow pedes, I'm not too hard on em, I love em). I'm not into fear mongering or opinion based realities.
The reason i asked is because the corona virus stats are just starting out while the H1N1 stats for finalized. Its not an apple to apple comparison. Better stats would be when both presidents called them pandemics.
This is for H1N1: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21342903
I had no idea h1n1 hit that many people... I remember people talking about it a lot but never saw the media panic on this scale
That's because media at large wasn't four years into a character assassination campaign against Obama.
Probably being attributed to complications from the virus. So the 20k round up is plausible.
The reason i asked is because this is somewhat misleading. The H1N1 stats are after it finished but the corona is only growing so a better stat sheet would be when both presidents called them officially pandemics.
https://covid19info.live/ is good. Click on "show more graphs" and you get a nice one on just how stupid it is to claim it is anything like H1N1.
Sickening.
F the mainstream media F the dems F reddit
Yelling "everyone calm down" doesn't do shit to traitors and people in hysterics sadly.
Some times you need sugar pills to calm the mind so the rest can follow .
The reason Italy has a high mortality rate, partially its the "Universal healthcare", but majority of Italy's population is just freaking old.
I mean look at S.Korea would probably be a better case study. The mortality rate for 70+ is high however the younger you go the less impact it has.
Companies in the U.S have already stated that they can meet demand for ventilators.
There's also another issue, the U.S is a bunch of hypochondriacs (so am I). So a sneeze, cough, or fever is going to push people to rush to the ER because of this virus. Right now the best thing we can do is avoid Grandma and Grandpa.
If there's one medical youtuber I'd point to is Medcram right now. He's so far talking about how Resveritol (Antivirus) that was created to fight Ebola might be the antiviral we need to halt the Wuflu. That antivirus is going on trials right now currently. So we might see an antivirus within the next month (as many were already saying 6 weeks, two weeks ago). Lets hope this failed Ebola Vaccine is exactly what we need. So we should pray that this antivirus works on those who are having it administered currently.
Resveratrol is the compound in red wine. I think you are referring to remdesivir from Gilead. Not sure that is going to work though, but we will know shortly because trials are underway. This article from yesterday does not sound great https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2020/03/13/gilead-coronavirus-covid19-clinical-trials/
3am writing does that to you my friend. Should have been more on top of it.
Yes! Trump saying that everyone can get tested as calmed because now you have a choice of you want to be tested. Abundance. It’s that choice we can make. The Health Departments only wanted to test those who met a criteria and people started to bitch.
You give that comfort of choice, people calm down. It’s a simple test and we have the supplies.
All good bro. Try not to get your feelings to wrapped in a take though. Emotional investment in a standpoint is part of the reason folks throw shill all over the place. It certainly could be far worse than we think. It could be a preview or prepper for something worse. Issue is we dont know and dont have the amount of needed test kits to find out. Nor is testing everyone really helpful in a person hopping contagious flu like virus to just have solid numbers.
If your elderly and have respiratory issues it's a very dangerous flu. Vast amounts of panic and toilet paper isnt going to help that though.
I dont think current numbers are super helpful, how many folks think they just have a cold?
There is talk between the two extremes, but the extreams is what gets our attention. Let it slide bud, say your peace and keep going if it gets you riled.
Love you too, Pede.
President Trump created the coronavirus taskforce while the Shampeachment and witness vote was going on in the House and Senate. He's taken it seriously but not been a chicken little about it. I've said it before that the virus is real but the panic is manufactured. Being calm doesn't mean you aren't prepared or sober to a situation.
For completely selfish reasons I’m hoping the stock market stays low for just a bit longer. My work has a stock sharing program where they give you a discounted price and use a bank loan to buy 10 times what you paid for. Your initial investment is guaranteed by the bank in exchange for dividends for 5 years, and you have to hold the stocks for that long. The starting price is set in early May, and based on their payout formulas, at the end of five years, I stand to make over 5 times my initial investment(limited to around $900 a year, sadly) if the price is set where it is now and only bounces back to where it was before the corona scare. Could get up to over 7 or 8 times if it increases from there at the rate it has since 2016.
Well if it makes you feel better, if it becomes some sort of global pandemic it still is only truly fatal for the elderly or infirm, which sucks but isn't world-stopping. And then November comes around, and everyone has a choice between people that have been talking about abolishing borders for 4 years and someone who has been trying like hell to build a wall and shut China out. Then there's the all-important down ticket elections. Those are critical, and are often carried by national party leadership.
Any globalist with a lick of political sense would have never hyped a pandemic virus in this context. Bummer the smart ones are either dead or senile with age and TDS, and the new crop are abject retards.
The National Emergency allows him to use a lot more money and resources for this. The POTUS is doing his best to PREVENT this from becoming a very big deal, which right this moment its really not, its the media that are making this the big deal. He didn't cave, he's just doing everything recommended by his team to keep deaths as minimal as possible.
Yes, we’re in the proactive phase, which makes it appear we’re overreacting to nothing. But mark my words, when we watch the devastation this is going to cause to countries who are reacting to the virus, instead of being proactive, GEOTUS will look like Nostradamus.
Italy is the first indicator of how bad things can be. If you don’t get out in front of this virus it will kick your ass. When 20% of cases require hospitalization, that’s gonna overwhelm your medical system in short order, once the doubling rate reaches into the thousands.
Italy has a median age of 47. So they're old. Among the young are tons of recent migrants with latent TB. Not an apt comparison for the US.
A lot of people aren't being logical. There is clearly a big issue - but the reactionaries amongst us are overplaying their hand by concluding: "If Democrats say this is bad, it must be fake!"
Be wary of being goaded into a fools posture.
People aren't downplaying this because of what Democrats are saying, it's cause the virus causes mild symptoms on healthy people, and it's killed only 38 people, 29 in one single fucking nursing home. This is definitely way overblown
I'm sorry, but it's a circlejerk. Dems said some things and many people decided that a flippant dismissal of the situation was the best response. Trump never said the virus was a hoax and many people from the media but also in our community as well, misread his tone.
Trump has closed the US border basically. You should stop going around saying it's overblown. You're attempting to reduce the factors down to a tiny window of possibilities and it's frankly getting tired
It may not be as bad as the worst case scenario, but the logistical and economic impacts alone are massive. It has the potential to cause a lot of human harm and we don't even know it's long term effects. Plus, we already have a pretty crazy flu season and this just adds to it.
It's an actual viral contagion, overlaid with blankets of overblown hype. It's both.
We're canceling life for this month to see what happens. No movies, date nights out, we both work at home, etc. just to see if we can be in the 40-50% who never catches it. Just because I'm the worst puss ever when it comes to being sick with cold or flu. :) There, I said it
I'm not frightened of dying. Why should I be frightened? We've all got to go sometime.
—P. Floyd
In nine months we have a Coronavirus Baby Boom
I've been getting the same treatment, from people that don't understand the potential.
Taking proactive measures is NOT panic.
And no, I'm not talking about washing your hands and not touching your face.
Avoid large gatherings of people, especially ones where you have close contact (less than 6-10 feet).
A city near me has banned gatherings of more than 500 people. A local megachurch is "complying" by splitting their congregation into sets of 499 people, in practically adjoining rooms. That's irresponsible.
If you are not feeling well, stay home.
This is good advice anytime, but especially true now. If you aren't feeling well, you are probably already contagious, with whatever you have.
If you develop the symptoms of COVID-19 (you can find them online), try to get tested.
Many have asked: why bother? They aren't going to do anything different for me!
THAT'S IRRESPONSIBLE.
The purpose of testing is to determine if your local health dept. should track down your close contacts in the past few days. If you test positive, you have a contagious disease that has no treatment, and some people will die if they catch it from you. The early warning may save someone close to you.
And, before you say: I don't have elderly relatives! It isn't just the elderly. Anyone with a compromised immune system is vulnerable, and you won't necessarily know if your friend or co-worker is compromised. Treatment for rheumatoid arthritis, Crohn's, multiple sclerosis is an immunosuppressant like Enbrel or Humira. The middle-aged guy next door could be vulnerable, and you'd never know it.
But, the real reason for contact tracing is to isolate and prevent THEM from spreading it further. This is the only way to SLOW the spread of the virus, until a vaccine can be developed.
And you're put in this point where you have to listen to CNN, MSNBC, NYT, etc as our (especially dem) lawmakers, mayors, and others make policy based on their reports.
and make people bat shit crazy about toilet paper.
Given the circumstances I thing we should update the phrase to, "bat soup crazy."
Now do this same chart again, but only do H1N1 stats for the same duration as CV-19 has been making the rounds. Comparing 2 months to 12 months like they are equal is some Bernie Sanders level shit.
But it's comparing apples to oranges.
CV killed 38 in 2 months. If H1N1 only killed 5 in the first 2 months, their reaction would be justifiable.
Using unequal datasets to make a point is dishonest at best.
The virus is real, the media is fake. I realize that most of us here understand that and do the digging we have to in order to find the truth. Many, many, many people don't know or care about that and let the msm plan their lives for them.
I agree, and it will still show with equal data. (the extended incubation time of CV makes the chart look favorable).
Thank you, and doing the math on these initial stats has 100x the mortality rate. Not fair to compare at this stage, but stupid to be this dismissive.
Folks, do not panic but do make reasonable preparations.
It's done for you here: https://covid19info.live/ Click on "Show More Graphs."
Day 65 H1N1: 231 deaths
Day 64 Covid 19: 5405 deaths
Perfect. Now use this graph to show how ridiculous the panic is. Wait...
Bingo! It's all bullshit at this point!
The msm didn't want to report anything due to the fact that the Democrats and the Obama Administration were trying to pass Obamacare.
FORGET what the Democrats said, it was a given. Of course they'd blame Trump and pile on.
Do NOT let that distract you from the actual dangers the virus poses. Do not get lulled into false senses of equivalence with past or existing viruses.
The Democrats probably WANT you to double down, get silly, spite the issue and then they can turn around and accuse you of really making it worse.
Pray, study, prepare. This isn't really about Trump so don't let Democrats make it about Trump.
Plus, hindsight on outbreaks really doesn’t tell you much, since we can’t really tell if it was the plan that kept the outbreaks from being worse, or if they never would have been that bad to begin with.
The best outcome for us would be to look back on this and think we overreacted, because that meant we did enough, and then a bit more just to be sure.
I don't think the US has overreacted. Stopping travel from China etc was a world leading move and other countries followed suit. Those that didn't now have major problems.
This probably won't be nearly as bad as swine flu either. Mortality rates in Korea where they've had a stellar response to treating the infected are actually way lower than previously expected. Basically if you don't have an underlying resperatory problem you'll be fine.
Fat people are high risk also. This is going to be a fat massacre. 600lb life will have to go off of the air.
USA at this point is way, way worse than Korea ever was. We just don’t know it yet.
Korea immediately implemented social distancing measures to limit the spread. That stops the healthcare system becoming overwhelmed. Korea also has 6x as many hospital beds per capita as the US.
Europe and America, on the other hand, have done nothing so far. Likely 100,000+ cases in the US by now. The risk isn’t really the virus itself being super deadly. It’s the fact that a surge of people getting all sick at the same time is going to break the medical system.
If there's a 100k people infected with this then that puts the mortality rate at less than 0.01%. Which means this virus is a nothing burger. You alarmists have no fucking idea what your talking about.
Holy fuck, were there really 60 million cases of H1N1 in the US alone? I don't really remember anything from that period, probably because the MSM didn't cover it nowhere near as much as this current "pandemic".
Is the coronavirus just THAT much stronger than swine flu? Because it just seems like the media/deep state is just operating of off potentials and maybes, seems like no one knows for sure but these numbers are something else.
Exactly. Ignorance was bliss. Rainbows and unicorns, obammy and big mike...NOT. Imagine how much shit from that disaster we'll never find out.
It's crazy! Like what could be different than it was 10 years ago?
I’m sending this to everyone I know.
Call it the WUHAN MEDIA VIRUS
BUT TEST KITS REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Funny how Facebook marks this as false information when you try to post it...
Exactly.
Sooo...when do we take it back?
So...what are they doing during this shut down to rig the 2020 election?
Let's get those civil suits started against the media companies.
But then you got ebola which also got this kinda fear-mongering, so much so that I had 6 hours to implement an "US-based solution for Epic based customers." Which never got any hits because people fucking lie.
WuhanVirus ≠ SwineFlu virus
But yes, MSM is trying everything in their power to crash this system and blame Trump.****
If you haven't collected your Reddit Ban yet, go over there and let everyone know about he WUHAN VIRUS.
This is comparing the H1N1 FINAL numbers to the BEGINNING numbers of COVID-19.
Yes it is. But if we all panic and run to the doctor every time we clear our throats, our system will collapse. This seems to be what the msm wants!
Interesting you even give a shit about the MSM instead of your own life. At all.
It won’t be any worse.
Back to your bunker now...
I will not be controlled by fear and television!
Amen! Live your life in freedom, and don't submit to the media sensationalism.
Enemy of the PEOPLE, including fucking fake ass Fox News!
That meme is being censored on Facebook. Says that the number of deaths are inaccurate. They match exactly with the CDC website numbers. Fuck Facebook.
The media isn't helping the situation, but a virus that kills 1 in 35 is a bit more frightening than a virus that kills 1 in 5000..
The virus doesnt kill 1 in 35 lol in most cases you dont even know you have it, the mortality rate is 2% for those who have gone to hospital and been diagnosed with Covid 19 which would be the sickest of people, do you really think everyone who had covid 19 went to the hopital considering most people have very mild cases? If you do then have I got some fine antique china im willing to sell you.
So 1/35 turns into 1/50... China virus is 100x more fatal than h1n1
There were actually probably many MORE cases...
Anecdotally...my gf and I BOTH had a WICKED flu during that outbreak! Fevers, chills, the works!
But we didn't see a doctor or go to a hospital, we just toughed it out.
No doubt there are many millions more like us!
Because H1N1 is borderline harmless. Not defending Obongo here just fyi, but you need to distinguish between these two illnesses.
Yup. It's a bit dishonest to use numbers in their current state. Covid-19 appears to have a much higher growth rate than other illnesses. There is less herd immunity and absence of symptoms during initial days. It's hard to judge things at the beginning of an exponential curve, so it's better being careful.
I think the media IS definitely spreading panic in glee. I think there is quite a bit of overreaction... That doesn't change the potential danger here though.
Agreed. Obongo could have done better. But covid19 is actually more concerning. Though I agree with OP, the media has people insane with fear porn right now.
A vote for Trump and against democrats, is also a vote to say FU MSM, including Fox News.
I’m off the chain myself so these motherfuckers better watch out.
Interesting how no Biden or trump on reddit. They clearly showing bias
I'm continually amazed how much ill will the ruling class has for this country, and their willingness to impose misery and death on their fellow citizens just to maintain their wealth and power.
I AM NOT CONCERN TROLLING...but fact is, this COULD get bad if proper steps were not taken. However, since we have an incredible president that is taking unprecedented steps to prevent the spread, hopefully it does not get out of control, IE ITALY and the country of origin....CHINA. YES THIS IS FROM CHINA. DEAL WITH IT SHILLS
This forum is being moderated by assholes that are suppressing the danger of this virus.
Trunews.com is a solid source along with Mike Adams on Infowars and he also has his own podcast.
There's a reason Trump is declaring a National Emergency mods, if this was just another flu THIS WOULDN'T BE HAPPENING. Fucking morons.
My comments pertaining to this fact are being deleted, on /r/The_Donald this wouldn't have happened. WTF is going on here?
They are a little heavy-handed on issues where they shouldn't be. I was watching a news report this morning on the outbreak in Italy, and if the numbers they reported were right, the percentage of known cases that resulted in death was about 6% or so.
Even if the numbers are right, the actual mortality rate would be lower as it isn't accounting for those that have the virus but only have mild symptoms and never got tested
Sorry but they deleted a post of mine from a little while ago that was basically identical to what I just posted above.
Facebook just censored me for posting this even though I said this will still get worse
I dont want another H1N1, i dont give a fuck about the medias biased opinion, if Trump says shelter in place, ima shelter in place, he hasnt steered us wrong yet.
This says less about mass hysteria and more about how Trump's administration is properly managing this epidemic
Because orange man will always equal bad, and Muslim sympathizer, America-hating brown man will always equal good.
That’s a fact
The media is a tool all right. But I'm not comparing anything until it's all over.
I have battered reasonable person syndrome. The psyops is so intense. I remember feeling this way hearing the news in the run up to the election in 2016 I had to TURN IT OFF! Now more than ever I need you mu online friends.
Oh no Facebook is "fact checking " this image 😂🤣
I got H1N1, it was shitty, I thought I was going to die, but here I am.
TO be fair we only have stats for infection and death rate for a couple months worth. We need to wait a couple years to see a true reporting. 2mon of beginning of exponential curve , vs a year of results...
Exactly!!!! Good point!!!!! Funny how they tried to memory hole this one- I had completely forgot! They’re trying to crash the economy and stock market by causing Orsen Wells level widespread panic!
Isn’t that once H1N1 had run its course, or is that at two months in like corona chan?