LOL, you just don’t get it. There isn’t a damn difference. Libertarianism has existed since our nation’s founding. It is our founding ideology, and it brought us America. Since then we’ve been on a slow march towards bigger and bigger government.
Around 1900 progressivism took hold and their American Traditionalist opposition were referred to as Liberal. Then Progressives co-opted the term which caused the original liberals to have no choice but to come up with a new term, Libertarian.
But both Democrats and Republicans, Conservatives and Progressives, were all infected with the idea that “they knew best”. Thus the country stopped listening to anything else till recently.
The fact that the Globalist Cabal have spent so much time and effort demonizing; subverting and misrepresenting Libertarianism tells me everything about how big of a threat it is to them.
The fake news was your claim saying we’re trying to improve over the founding fathers. That was your last comment.
Now your on about the founders saying everyone, including kids, should be armed. I am actually for that but nobody in this thread has brought that up except you. You’re asserting a position that I never made on a topic you just brought up.
Government is evil but a necessary one which means it and everything connected to it must exist at a bare minimum and only for functions that a private entity truly cannot handle either reliably or impartially.
That means tax is not theft inherently, the disaster known as the Articles of Confederation proved we need a minimum level of federal government as our Constitution outlines and that requires money from somewhere. However, tax becomes theft when it is either based on something the federal, state and/or local government have no jurisdiction over OR when it targets citizens unequally.
That means most forms of tax that exist today are theft; death tax, property tax, income tax, etc. As they’re designed to ensure that businesses and estates are hard to inherit and that nobody truly owns their land. Income is abominable as it demands different percentages person to person and because it by nature makes a distinction on how money was earned. Such as by income or capitol gains.
There are only ways in my mind of Constitutionally funding our federal government but in my mind both have their flaws and pitfalls. Either the old way of Tariffs which was pretty much the entirety of it before the 1900’s but that would also tie the functioning of our federal government to our ability to trade with other nations.
Or a true Flat Tax that is based on total money accumulated in any way shape or form over a year and that does not change percentages, rules, definitions, etc. for any class, race, religion, political bent, age, sexual persuasion and any other form of prejudicial bullshit self-righteous assholes can come up with. But the downside here is that we have established the right of the fed gov that they can take portions of acquired money.
The Federal government placed an excise on liquor in 1791. If you made whisky in your own home, with your own grain, you had to pay them money. Is that theft?
If it was for selling then still no, it singles out people who make liquor. That was already explained.
Your turn, my long previous answer explained to you in detail how I approach taxes. There was no point to this follow up question. So what point are you even trying to make? Do you simply have a contrary opinion on the matter?
LOL, you just don’t get it. There isn’t a damn difference. Libertarianism has existed since our nation’s founding. It is our founding ideology, and it brought us America. Since then we’ve been on a slow march towards bigger and bigger government.
Around 1900 progressivism took hold and their American Traditionalist opposition were referred to as Liberal. Then Progressives co-opted the term which caused the original liberals to have no choice but to come up with a new term, Libertarian.
But both Democrats and Republicans, Conservatives and Progressives, were all infected with the idea that “they knew best”. Thus the country stopped listening to anything else till recently.
The fact that the Globalist Cabal have spent so much time and effort demonizing; subverting and misrepresenting Libertarianism tells me everything about how big of a threat it is to them.
No you don’t get it.
America existed since the founding and libertarians want to say they’ve improved the model when they haven’t done shit.
LOL, what a load of crock. We never claimed to improve shit, that’s fucking fake news.
Except that the founding fathers said that all citizens should be armed - including children.
So what’s fake news? MAGA or still larping around with libertarianism?
The fake news was your claim saying we’re trying to improve over the founding fathers. That was your last comment.
Now your on about the founders saying everyone, including kids, should be armed. I am actually for that but nobody in this thread has brought that up except you. You’re asserting a position that I never made on a topic you just brought up.
The only larper here is you.
Is taxation theft?
Government is evil but a necessary one which means it and everything connected to it must exist at a bare minimum and only for functions that a private entity truly cannot handle either reliably or impartially.
That means tax is not theft inherently, the disaster known as the Articles of Confederation proved we need a minimum level of federal government as our Constitution outlines and that requires money from somewhere. However, tax becomes theft when it is either based on something the federal, state and/or local government have no jurisdiction over OR when it targets citizens unequally.
That means most forms of tax that exist today are theft; death tax, property tax, income tax, etc. As they’re designed to ensure that businesses and estates are hard to inherit and that nobody truly owns their land. Income is abominable as it demands different percentages person to person and because it by nature makes a distinction on how money was earned. Such as by income or capitol gains.
There are only ways in my mind of Constitutionally funding our federal government but in my mind both have their flaws and pitfalls. Either the old way of Tariffs which was pretty much the entirety of it before the 1900’s but that would also tie the functioning of our federal government to our ability to trade with other nations.
Or a true Flat Tax that is based on total money accumulated in any way shape or form over a year and that does not change percentages, rules, definitions, etc. for any class, race, religion, political bent, age, sexual persuasion and any other form of prejudicial bullshit self-righteous assholes can come up with. But the downside here is that we have established the right of the fed gov that they can take portions of acquired money.
The Federal government placed an excise on liquor in 1791. If you made whisky in your own home, with your own grain, you had to pay them money. Is that theft?
If it was for personal consumption then fuck no.
If it was for selling then still no, it singles out people who make liquor. That was already explained.
Your turn, my long previous answer explained to you in detail how I approach taxes. There was no point to this follow up question. So what point are you even trying to make? Do you simply have a contrary opinion on the matter?