FFS. Stop believing what you're hearing from MSM talking heads--even a basic wiki search will tell you this:
In otherwise healthy adults, influenza virus shedding (the time during which a person might be infectious to another person) increases sharply one-half to one day after infection, peaks on day 2 and persists for an average total duration of 5 days—but can persist as long as 9 days.
The 'death rate' that the WHO director used to start the panic is from cherry picked statistics without a proper population sample used to calculate the base figure--i.e they had no idea of the numbers exposed and who didn't fall ill. His base sample was from those sick enough to present to a hospital etc.
However despite all this--if you look up the 'official' prognosis for this 'Covid-19' the medicos will tell you, not me, that MOST people will only experience "mild to moderate symptoms"--what they and the MSM don't tell you is that 'most" in medical/scientific terms usually means 99.999pc.
Well the shedding time is definitely longer than the flu but fair enough I didnt know flu was that long
But still you can have the virus for 14 days before showing symptoms, with the flu you will show symptoms after a max of 4 days. So you will be able to tell if someone is sick after 4 days (unless they are asymptomatic), with covid this can last 14 days.
Now I know Italy isnt representative of the US, but in terms of this "being like the flu", 2100 people died in italy in the past 7 days. 17k died in the entire year in italy on average the past 4 years, so 17k per year versus 2100 in one week, seems like this is worthy of lockdown etc.
Do you not think 2100 in a week, versus 17000 in a year, shows it's pretty bad? Even if Italy's age group is older etc. You are comparing italy flu deaths vs italy covid deaths
No...I don't think a spike in flu deaths for ONE WEEK among the very elderly and/or immune compromised is worthy of a total nationwide 'lockdown'. If this flu was infecting/affecting normally health YOUNG and/or middle aged (i.e to 75) people MORE than the 'normal' flu, and WORSE, than the normal flu, then I'd agree. However I would have in place special protections for the at-risk groups; which would ALWAYS be in place--not just for this new seasonal flu strain.
This virus isnt a strain of the flu (influenza) it's a strain of SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome)
The deaths in the last week is not a spike though in the sense that a spike would decrease the period afterwards. It's an exponential curve so it will increase exponentially in the time period after if the situation stays the same. The deaths today in Italy was 627 which is higher than any other day so far.
Hopefully a lockdown of over 75s or over 60s would work as that wouldnt affect the economy as much. But if it just spreads wildly through the lower age group and they care for the elderly that might not work?
I'm guessing whooping cough is worse than SARS.; which is highly contagious, lethal for babies and for some affected adults, who with NORMAL immune systems, can suffer (I believe) a fatal asthma like attack after a coughing fit. Whooping cough is MUCH worse than this 'Covid-19'; which appears to leave young, very young and majority of adults unscathed. Yet no-one shutting down the world, or demanding mandatory vaccines, over Whooping Cough.
Sure, we need to quarantine the frail, the very old and immuno-suppressed and have extra precautions for those that are near/care for them because of Covid 19. But society should be doing that anyway--even with the 'normal FLU.. 'Locking down' the rest of the country is insane.
FFS. Stop believing what you're hearing from MSM talking heads--even a basic wiki search will tell you this:
The 'death rate' that the WHO director used to start the panic is from cherry picked statistics without a proper population sample used to calculate the base figure--i.e they had no idea of the numbers exposed and who didn't fall ill. His base sample was from those sick enough to present to a hospital etc.
However despite all this--if you look up the 'official' prognosis for this 'Covid-19' the medicos will tell you, not me, that MOST people will only experience "mild to moderate symptoms"--what they and the MSM don't tell you is that 'most" in medical/scientific terms usually means 99.999pc.
Well the shedding time is definitely longer than the flu but fair enough I didnt know flu was that long But still you can have the virus for 14 days before showing symptoms, with the flu you will show symptoms after a max of 4 days. So you will be able to tell if someone is sick after 4 days (unless they are asymptomatic), with covid this can last 14 days.
Now I know Italy isnt representative of the US, but in terms of this "being like the flu", 2100 people died in italy in the past 7 days. 17k died in the entire year in italy on average the past 4 years, so 17k per year versus 2100 in one week, seems like this is worthy of lockdown etc.
Do you not think 2100 in a week, versus 17000 in a year, shows it's pretty bad? Even if Italy's age group is older etc. You are comparing italy flu deaths vs italy covid deaths
No...I don't think a spike in flu deaths for ONE WEEK among the very elderly and/or immune compromised is worthy of a total nationwide 'lockdown'. If this flu was infecting/affecting normally health YOUNG and/or middle aged (i.e to 75) people MORE than the 'normal' flu, and WORSE, than the normal flu, then I'd agree. However I would have in place special protections for the at-risk groups; which would ALWAYS be in place--not just for this new seasonal flu strain.
This virus isnt a strain of the flu (influenza) it's a strain of SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome)
The deaths in the last week is not a spike though in the sense that a spike would decrease the period afterwards. It's an exponential curve so it will increase exponentially in the time period after if the situation stays the same. The deaths today in Italy was 627 which is higher than any other day so far.
Hopefully a lockdown of over 75s or over 60s would work as that wouldnt affect the economy as much. But if it just spreads wildly through the lower age group and they care for the elderly that might not work?
I'm guessing whooping cough is worse than SARS.; which is highly contagious, lethal for babies and for some affected adults, who with NORMAL immune systems, can suffer (I believe) a fatal asthma like attack after a coughing fit. Whooping cough is MUCH worse than this 'Covid-19'; which appears to leave young, very young and majority of adults unscathed. Yet no-one shutting down the world, or demanding mandatory vaccines, over Whooping Cough.
Sure, we need to quarantine the frail, the very old and immuno-suppressed and have extra precautions for those that are near/care for them because of Covid 19. But society should be doing that anyway--even with the 'normal FLU.. 'Locking down' the rest of the country is insane.