STANFORD DOCTOR ON TUCKER JUST NOW: 100% CURE RATE FOR MALARIA DRUG AGAINST CHINESE VIRUS, HE'S PLEADING FOR PEOPLE TO SPREAD THE WORD, BIG PHARMA IS HIDING IT BECAUSE ITS ALREADY GENERIC. PLEASE WATCH AND SHARE. PRAY TO GOD THIS IS WHAT WE'VE ALL BEEN PRAYING FOR
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Give me a fucking break. Big pharma is not hiding anything. The drug they are talking about has not been fully studied yet.
Granted, the FDA should be moving faster on this but the notion that drug companies are trying to cover something up is completely rediculous.
100% in 20 patients
well the best part about it is that its already done with current drugs demmed safe. that means we can have intimidate treatment
That looks to be the major takeaway. This sounds like a best case scenario.
Kind of need more information on the patients, as well as their status. The mortality rate is around 2.0-3.7%, depending on the source -- higher if the patient is old or has pre-existing conditions, lower if they are young and healthy. How old were they? How was their health? If the 20 people were representative of the general population, we could expect maybe 1 of them to die if none of them were treated at all. So, having 0 deaths really doesn't tell me much about the efficacy of this drug. Results of clinical trials of a particular drug generally takes years, and a significantly greater number than 20 people -- you could just as well have given the 20 patients a daily regimen of altoids and gotten the same results, but it doesn't mean altoids have a 100% cure rate
40 patients
20 were placebo
The video isn't playing for me, but if it's chloroquine it's been around for a long time. Laura Ingraham said she's taken it on four different occasions on trips to Africa. Hydroxychloroquine is newer and supposed to be less toxic than chloroquine. They're very cheap, too. Certainly deserves a good look.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/186Bel9RqfsmEx55FDum4xY_IlWSHnGbj/view
Hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin is what the study showed. This is difficult to grok in its entirety, and I’m tired, so I can’t
I have a 20 pack of malaria pills in my medicine cabinet that were for a business trip to India that was cancelled last month due to the virus. Fingers crossed on this one!
Exactly. Any drug company that had a "100% cure" for Chinese Virus would be jumping from buildings holding banners on the way down advertising it while they sell the drug for a 3000% profit. They'd cover their next five fiscal years with this thing.
Jeezus dude, chill out, do some research and take off the fucking caps lock.
EVEN WITH CRUISE CONTROL YOU STILL NEED TO STEER
WHEW LAD WHO COULD HAVE EXPECTED THAT???
Why do some people freak out over caps lock? I used in a reply in one word (because we have no italics and that word needed emphasis) and they yelled at me to stop shouting.
Italics
BLACK MAGIC!!!
Raycist -- whites to pure for evil magic?
I thought you guys were talking about the childproof caps and how they lock in the prescription bottles. I was so confused. 😂
CAPS LOCK IS FOR EMPHASIS - DJT
Someone doesn’t know how to yell on the internet.
He's lying. Read the actual study. It may be helpful in the early stages, but when you drop patients out of the already tiny group whose results you're counting because they got transferred to intensive care (3 patients) or DIED (1 patient), you can't go around claiming a "100% cure rate" without being a bald-faced liar.
The study itself doesn't make any wild claims. It's the guy who's going around giving these tabloidy interviews and tweeting, who's making the wild claims while citing the study which doesn't back up his claims. He knows people are eager to believe a "silver bullet" has been found, and he's eager to take advantage of that to get himself a lot of publicity.
The study is probably as well-designed and conducted as any study could have been in the time frame this one was carried out. In other words, not good, but understandably so, and still potentially valuable. But what this crass self-promoter is doing is actually quite harmful. It will certainly contribute to people believing that the pandemic really isn't that big a deal, and that evil government forces are just exaggerating it to try to control us.
It's an old malaria treatment that was pretty effective before anybody on the Donald was born. Golden bullet maybe not but interesting.
Quinolone is not an antibiotic anyone can take, it can be deadly for patients with hemolytic anemia, G6PD deficiencies, risky interactions with prednisone also
The study used hydroxychloroquine, not any type of quinolone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxychloroquine
They can't be sick with bat-flu if they're dead *tapshead.gif *
Rigano is a lawyer, not a doctor. FWIW.
But hydroxyloroquine is most likely the real deal.
Ingraham had the same guy, hate to be a conspiracy guy but she sure seemed like she was given clear instruction to shut that guy up. WTF Ingraham pulls plug on Rigano
Border Wall if true!
Everybody is really missing the actual headline here... Corona loses out to Gin and Tonic!
I've been drinking Vodka Tonics as well. Qunine for the old school win!
Best case, the quinine helps keep the virus down... Worst Case, it doesnt do much but I get a tasty cocktail at the end of each day. I can't loose!
Also Zinc Gluconicum products like cold Eeze inhibit replication if someone starts to feel sick it lessens the severity.
Not entirely true.
Zinc only helps if it gets INSIDE cells in the lungs. Zinc supplements alone don't do that. They get zinc into the bloodstream, but not into lung cells.
Hydroxychloroquine actually transports zinc from the bloodstream into the cells.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2973827/enter text
COVID is in the SARS family
A zinc ionophore is needed to get zinc inside the cells. The paper you cite clearly states this point.
Hydroxychloroquine is a zinc ionophore.
Intracellular zinc inhibits coronavirus replication:
https://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article?id=10.1371/journal.ppat.1001176
Chloroquine is a zinc ionophore (gets the zinc into the cells):
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/file?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0109180&type=printable
Hydroxychloroquine (better tolerated) advantage over chloroquine, with dosage advice:
https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa237/5801998
Got it. Zinc bullets to get INSIDE the cells and lungs.
Exactly this.
Quercetin (a plant extract available as a supplement at health-food stores and Amazon) is also a zinc ionophore, and is being looked into.
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Zinc-ionophore-activity-of-quercetin-and-from-Hepa-Dabbagh-Bazarbachi-Clergeaud/9f28bfa5ebf0466f697cb9c820220366fc149c0f
Quercetin has antiviral activity:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4728566/pdf/viruses-08-00006.pdf
Quercetin being evaluated in COVID-19:
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-feb-28-2020-1.5479561/as-coronavirus-spread-speeds-up-montreal-researchers-will-trial-an-anti-viral-treatment-for-covid-19-in-china-1.5480134
Thank you for the informative reply but I was making a joke about literally using bullets made of zinc as I don’t understand half of those words
An accidental truth then. Nicely done!
Humor and truth are friends.
It's why the LEFT can't MEME.
Sapphire bullets of pure love
Zicam? stuff like that?
Correct, there’s no contraindication and COVID is in the same class as SARS
Only if on it for years
Good point.
I would much rather drown slowly as fluid fills my lungs or have permanent lung damage if I survived, if I was an elderly or high risk person.
Right - but as BigIslandFrog pointed out:
"A zinc ionophore is needed to get zinc inside the cells. The paper you cite clearly states this point.
Hydroxychloroquine is a zinc ionophore."
So we're dealing with a slightly different animal here. Apparently Hydroxychloroquine is milder than chloroquine.
No matter what - this is hopeful. I don't buy the 100% hype from such a small study, but it's not completely off.
This was an interesting discussion today online - Recorded late this afternoon - some thoughts and observations on what's happening and what the future looks like https://youtu.be/24trMOPQhns
He's from WHO, however, so I take a lot of things from the spooks with a grain of salt. That being said, it's worth the 30 min or so to watch it.
Study of 20 people.
If the Coronavirus has a death rate at 1%, then you have a 0.99 chance (99%) of not getting it. To do the math on statistical probability of taking 20 cases:
`0.99^20 = 81.8% probability that if you took 20 Covid-19 patients, all of them would recover. You could give them all ramen noodles and magically declare that ramen noodles saved them, because at the probability of 81.8% chance all would recover no matter what treatment you gave.
Sample size is too small. Don't get too excited over this. I like Tucker, but this was not a great study. Now, the good news is it didn't seem to kill them all either, so let's get 300 people in the same study and see what happens. 0.99^300 = only 5% probability that all will recover (assuming the 1% clinical rate is accurate).
Tucker did a good job being skeptical. And it was positioned as the last story of the show, almost as an afterthought. The guy was shady in his demeanor, IMHO. A bit strange, esp. at the end of the interview.
That guy is a frickin lizard, he screams sociopath.
https://academic.oup.com/qjmed/article/96/1/35/1526271
COf course my wholesalers are all out of hydroxychloroquine right now.
I was able to snag 200 tablets from a secondary wholesaler, but I dunno when I'll be able to get more. I am also going to reserve one course of therapy for myself and my employees before giving any out to customers. This is not greed, it's more like airline passengers putting on their own oxygen masks before helping anyone else: if we go down, nobody else gets their meds either.)
Note that chloroquine is much more expensive by a factor of about 20, as it has only one manufacturer in the states (so despite being "generic" it's still priced monopolistically).
It's also backordered.
Rather than blaming "big pharma" here, I'd lay this at the door of the pharmacy chains, who probably moved to buy up all stock of these drugs the moment word of this came out. I used to work for the three letters, I've seen them do this before (e,g. when generic clopidogrel first came out and was immediately withdrawn due to a patent challenge, but what was already on the market was allowed to be sold, the three letters bought up the entire production run. Their PBM arm then mandated using that generic vs. brand name Plavix, which was only available... guess where.)
Sounds like a bait and switch to make us look dumb. But hey go fucking test it Jack ass you ARE a doctor...
We need a downvote. GEOTUS announced today that FDA fast tracked approval of a common and cheap malaria drug that has had good results for treating COVID-19. No one is hiding anything, GEOTUS is on top of this situation.
Not a doctor - but you don't need Trump for this. Doctors can proscribe FDA approved drugs for untested uses. They do so fairly often is my understanding..
I get real agreeable when I can't breathe.
One of the original Murphy’s Laws of Combat from WWII says “a sucking chest wound is nature’s way of telling you to slow down.”
Just keeping it light...