Jew here. Go F yourself with your alt-SJW muh ethnostate nonsense. 1. Jews vote Trump because he’s the best president for America, family values, the constitution, and prosperity. 2. Israel is 20% non-Jewish Arab voters, that’s a weak “ethnostate”. I only care because I want my side (Trump train) to be educated, not some dopey narrative > facts, like leftists.
I read Jewish newspapers and their support for candidates seems to rise and fall with the candidates support of Israel almost to the exclusion of any other issue.
Are you saying that "conservative" Jewish newspapers aren't representative of the Orthodox community as a whole?
I see Israel as a strategic international asset to the US. My opinion is that Trump should support Israel, because doing so is good for Americans you and me. if It comes a time that Israel is not a strategic asset- if Israel doesn’t provide America with a return on our investment, then yes I would vote for Trump, if he were anti-Israel.
I would surmise that Jews who are conservative consider Israel to be the Jewish homeland, and they hope that every administration is friendly to Israel in a manner that at least secures Israel's existence against its enemies. There's nothing wrong with that. It's a bias, sure -- but it's fair, we all have our own biases. I'd hope that these folks want the best for America and Israel.
If Israelis can’t figure out that a strong America is the best pathway to a strong Israel, then they aren’t nearly as smart as we (or they) think they are. Which other big brother to Israel would be better? And if Israel thinks it can get on without a big brother, then Israel is stupid. (Stupid is the last thing Israel is.)
Although the idea that Israel benefits America is untrue, I respect you for claiming to put American interests ahead of the interests of your people. A great many Jews are unwilling to do this.
Has there ever been a dominating empire (Chinese and Indian excluded), from the Greeks to the Romans to the Byzantines to the Muslims to the Crusaders to the ottomans, who didn’t control this land in their ascension? And then losing it one way or another was coincident with the downfall or retraction of said empire and it’s way of life? Is it coincidence that the Left, who want the downfall of America, makes moves to weaken Israel?
Some do, some don't. If we're talking ethnic jews their reasons vary more than if we're talking religious Judaism, which is fundamentally ethnosupremacist.
IF YOU DONT VOTE FOR TRUMP IN 2020 THEN YOU ARE A person entitled to their opinion who is worth respecting as such and we’d be willing to debate your ideas so we all grow.
The fuck are there Orthodox Jews at all that would vote for a Dem? The Left absolutely hates Israel and Judaism. The next vote is literally an existential threat for them.
Trump has been amazing at meeting ALL the campaign promises he made to Israel.
Voting Trump is the best plan for anyone who supports the Jewish ethnostate.
Jew here. Go F yourself with your alt-SJW muh ethnostate nonsense. 1. Jews vote Trump because he’s the best president for America, family values, the constitution, and prosperity. 2. Israel is 20% non-Jewish Arab voters, that’s a weak “ethnostate”. I only care because I want my side (Trump train) to be educated, not some dopey narrative > facts, like leftists.
WE JUST CAN'T STOP WINNING, FOLKS! THE TRUMP TRAIN JUST GOT 10 BILLION MPH FASTER!
CURRENT SPEED: 355,269,385,117,000 MPH!
At that rate, it would take approximately 4.723 years to travel to the Andromeda Galaxy (2.5 million light-years)!
I read Jewish newspapers and their support for candidates seems to rise and fall with the candidates support of Israel almost to the exclusion of any other issue. Are you saying that "conservative" Jewish newspapers aren't representative of the Orthodox community as a whole?
Who cares which candidate a newspaper endorses. Is this the 1950s?
Also, all media is out of touch with reality.
Do my friends the Christian conservatives only vote Trump because he’s pro life? no way. But that’s what the newspapers would make you think.
Would you still support Trump if he was pro-America and anti-Israel?
I see Israel as a strategic international asset to the US. My opinion is that Trump should support Israel, because doing so is good for Americans you and me. if It comes a time that Israel is not a strategic asset- if Israel doesn’t provide America with a return on our investment, then yes I would vote for Trump, if he were anti-Israel.
Friends with Benefits: Why the U.S.-Israeli Alliance Is Good for America https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/friends-with-benefits-why-the-u.s.-israeli-alliance-is-good-for-america
I would surmise that Jews who are conservative consider Israel to be the Jewish homeland, and they hope that every administration is friendly to Israel in a manner that at least secures Israel's existence against its enemies. There's nothing wrong with that. It's a bias, sure -- but it's fair, we all have our own biases. I'd hope that these folks want the best for America and Israel.
If Israelis can’t figure out that a strong America is the best pathway to a strong Israel, then they aren’t nearly as smart as we (or they) think they are. Which other big brother to Israel would be better? And if Israel thinks it can get on without a big brother, then Israel is stupid. (Stupid is the last thing Israel is.)
Although the idea that Israel benefits America is untrue, I respect you for claiming to put American interests ahead of the interests of your people. A great many Jews are unwilling to do this.
Has there ever been a dominating empire (Chinese and Indian excluded), from the Greeks to the Romans to the Byzantines to the Muslims to the Crusaders to the ottomans, who didn’t control this land in their ascension? And then losing it one way or another was coincident with the downfall or retraction of said empire and it’s way of life? Is it coincidence that the Left, who want the downfall of America, makes moves to weaken Israel?
I’ll side with Trump on this one.
Some do, some don't. If we're talking ethnic jews their reasons vary more than if we're talking religious Judaism, which is fundamentally ethnosupremacist.
L°?
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Well someone has to do the shit-tier manual labor.
lol, last night on another site, a German socialist guy said something to the effect of, "I hate right-wing countries like Israel".
I made a joke, and he was then quick to tell me that he was neither antisemitic nor a Nazi.
IF YOU DONT VOTE FOR TRUMP IN 2020 THEN YOU ARE A person entitled to their opinion who is worth respecting as such and we’d be willing to debate your ideas so we all grow.
WELL SAID!
CovfefeAndChayim
If they like their guns, they can keep their guns
Don’t bite the goy that feeds you i guess
Doesn't matter, don't orthodox Jews primarily reside in NY? They state will always go blue.
Why not the other 11%? What’s wrong with them?!
The fuck are there Orthodox Jews at all that would vote for a Dem? The Left absolutely hates Israel and Judaism. The next vote is literally an existential threat for them.
Lets be real here. Trump didnt even get 89% of christians to vote for him
Not a chance
That is my point. impossible to get 89% of Orthodox jews
Not a huge surprise when leading democrats are openly antisemitic.