You can chop off your privates and screw with your bodies natural hormones on the whim of a mental illness but god forbid using a thus far promising drug that has been around for decades.
Chopped off? I thought they used the.....oh wait the shaft is used to make the vagina by turning it inside out, and they chop the balls off, or at least I think. Woke up one morning to some daytime talk show talking about the procedure. The mental scars are still there years later.
Do you remember the SNL skit about "tuliping?" Sometimes their social commentary is not sjw/woke biased. We need to cherish those brief moments of relative sanity:
Monday: I am a male who is unsuccessful at dating women. I am lonely. I wont work on anything internal, no no.. there must be a quicker and easier way out.
Tuesday: I'll say I'm a trans girl, that will get me attention and a place to belong (puts on a wig with longer hair and dresses like a traditional woman despite gender/sex not having a look..- this one always baffled me)
Wednesday: I'm attracted to women as a woman
Thursday: Women who arent attracted to my girlpenis are phobic haters and I will ruin their lives for not dating me
To liberals, all of the above is normal. But trying out a drug as fast as possible to curb a pandemic, ya, that's wrong to them?
I wonder if I get sick can I just identify as "non-viral" and put on some funny clothes and smear some makeup around my face. They then have to offer me the pills or be a bigot right?
i used to be a trump supporter but after his recent thing that he did that caused so much outrage and showed how dumb he was i am voting democrat this fall! orange man bad!
Imagine if we found a cure that was near 100% effective, but was almost certainly lethal if the patient was on hormone therapy. Liberals would certainly complain on the internet even as they took the medicine.
Trump is "defeating" the coronavirus. (An illness which was never as threatening as the media purported.)
The media is now in an impossible position. They either acknowledge Trump's leadership to develop this cure, or they admit that they overhyped the danger, and it wasn't that big of a deal.
The media is now in an impossible position. They either acknowledge Trump's leadership to develop this cure, or they admit that they overhyped the danger, and it wasn't that big of a deal.
If it's solved in the relative short term, this will be HUGE for Trump. First, he'll be largely credited for solving the problem and getting everyone back to work. If he can accomplish this before more of the jobs are gone, even better. Second, we now have the proper motivation to bring the manufacturing of essential products back to the US, so we're not dependent on China, or anywhere else in case of another similar emergency. That will boost the economy and create a lot of jobs in the short term to help fill in any employment gaps that developed as a result of the temporary shutdowns. Better yet, if it happens soon enough, the stimulus packages currently getting stalled in Congress might ultimately not be necessary.
I still think it was/is pretty threatening—keep seeing cases of otherwise healthy 20s-30s year-olds who are winding up in the ICU from this. The freakiest thing about this virus seems to be that there's really no telling how your immune system is going to react to it; in the past the general assumption was always that if you were young and healthy, you could fight off sickness. It's a little unsettling that that's apparently not the case, with this.
All that said, this drug looks very promising and it's so obvious that the MSM/Dems want this crisis to continue, rather than be solved.
This is the "novel" part of the novel coronavirus. No human has any innate immunity to it. If the reports of people recovering, then getting it again, and also having a worse time of it on their repeat bout(s) are true, then that contradicts fundamental thinking in medicine.
It could be those reports are just wrong due to false negative and/or false positives which is always possible but even more likely because lots of testing attempts have had problems. That would simplify this thing greatly.
Trouble is they will use it at this point only as a cure, not enough of the drug to use it as a preventative. I hope though that the elderly will be able to take it as a preventative, although there are still a lot of us hanging around...might not be enough.
Yes, it's a preventative, according to a 2005 study (2 years after SARS1.0) and the CDC knew it worked and they might be liable for a Class Action Law suit.
Agree with everything except the availability of these pills. In the NYC and NJ area Dr's are already prescribing this and have been for a few weeks. Many pharmacies are out of stock.
Hospitals may ave stock, they have been stockpiling since March 1, but overall there is a shortage. The Government has to step in and get pharmaceutical companies to ramp up production.
Agree with everything except the availability of these pills. In the NYC and NJ area Dr's are already prescribing this and have been for a few weeks. Many pharmacies are out of stock.
It's probably good I flew out of there the other day, to ride this out with my family down south...
I have close to 0 hope that a vaccine will be that effective. The virus will evolve quicker than we can develop a vaccine. It's possible that the vaccine will still be somewhat effective on the mutated form, but that effectiveness is likely to be reduced. Perhaps not effective at all for some people.
One Rx that's both preventative and curative is a silver bullet!
That's probably a good point. Have to walk the line though because people are freaking out about a LOT of things right now. Important for people to know that we're getting ahead of this and we're not aLL gOiNg to DIEEEEE
there is no use trying to "prevent" for the entire population. A bigger chunk than anyone even realizes is already immune because THEY ALREADY HAD IT and thought it was a regular flu. I do not in the slightest buy that it just appeared in December in China. No way. It's been going around and China stayed silent about it for months. It was here in December, I guarantee it. My kid for example, had a nasty fever in December, it was really high. So much so we took him to his doctor and they tested for strep and influenza. Tests came back negative for both and his doc said "we're going to treat this like the flu" and he recovered in a week.
As far as it being a preventative, are we talking preventative as in it prevents your symptoms from getting worse, if you start taking it as soon as you have an inkling that you may be sick? Or as in, even healthy people should be pumping these pills across the board until the crisis has resolved?
There's no point of this. Just treat people who get sick, make sure tests and treatment are available and keep the sickies home and wash your hands. The weather will warm, the virus will fade and the vaccine will be here by fall.
The virus is sending otherwise-healthy people in their 20s, 30s and 40s to the hospital.
There is some evidence showing that warm weather may not slow down this particular virus. We'll see.
Except the vaccine literally won't be here by the fall. Have you not been paying attention? The earliest that it could possibly be available is a year from now.
If there's a medicine that people can take if they think they might have COVID-19, before officially being tested/diagnosed, why shouldn't they be able to be prescribed it? If it can indeed be used as a preventative. Would potentially keep some people from ending up in the hospital.
I get sick of people harping on the Pharma businesses. Yes, they make money at what they do, and some have been predatory at times. But these are also the companies who are finding new cures, working hard to keep production safe and clean, etc. It's not a sin that they sometimes make a lot of money on a new drug. That's how free enterprise works.
People who bitch about pharma, as you noted, can rightfully have qualms with the business. But the reality is, when you have a chronic condition like I do, you realize, I don't give a shit HOW much the company makes, because they are saving my life.
Only then do you realize, that if the company needs to employs 10s of thousands of scientists, at 100's of thousands per scientist per year, is the cost of a few billion worth it.
Just a guess (and I heard this from a friend who's a doctor in Boston area also using it) but it's likely too early to tell what the results are at this point... that said, if South Korea is using it there must be results out there somewhere. I'm hoping Trump knows this already.
I give 0 shits about said "profound difference." I'd rather not die the miserable death this stuff causes, which I am highly susceptible to. Have you read how it kills you, even on a respirator? Does not sound like a good time.
The nypost article Trump linked said it took less than a day to be free of symptoms and they kept him in the hospital on the drugs for another few days afterwards to make sure it worked.
They just started using it a few days ago and I can’t pull up a patients charts days after I had the patient to see how they are doing but I will know by the end of the week how effective it is.
Very glad to hear that! Hydroxychloroquine has been around since the 1950's (chloroquine since the 1930's), so the side effects and drug interactions should be very well known.
I just read a letter from a Dr. who has been treating his patients with this (+Z packs and Zinc) So far he has treated around 500 patients, ZERO hospitalizations
A great counter is asking them what anecdotal means and what it would take to make it non anecdotal. Good chances are they don't know and if they do (clinical studies) then you can point to the study out of France.
They are just plain wrong calling it anecdotal. Early? yes. Anecdotal? no.
Holy hell that article is crazy. This guy legitimately thought he was going to die and already had said goodbye to his family, but then he took the drug that Trump has been talking about and it saved his life. He woke up "like nothing ever happened". That is INSANE! Way to go TRUMP for getting the information out there that the news refuses to!
That's not exactly correct. We don't know what would have happened had he not been given the drug. It's unlikely, but he could have miraculously improved for any other reason. That's why we do clinical trials to actually understand whether or not drugs work. Simple before-after comparisons are not sufficient evidence. I really hope this drug is everything we are touting it to be, but as a researcher I am biased towards null results until proven otherwise.We will know for sure soon!!!
We know as well as we possible could that it may have worked for this man. But a lot more people survive this disease than die from it--especially at his age, so I am not sure that we have a pretty good idea what would have happened without it. That said, I totally agree that it should be used in situations like these-- remember it is already approved for off-label use and is an option for patients if they request it. I will wait for the results of trials before I argue it should be the default pharmacological intervention.
And the food pyramid was a joke. Nutritional science is today where surgery was in 1900.
I agree we should all have it asap. Or at least I should. I still care about research. Lots of wonderful things come from research.
We won't beat this crisis by waiting for clinical research and FDA approval. Fuck those nazis. If limes were the cure they'd pull limes off the shelf and make them Rx only. At $750.00 each.
There’s so much misinformation out there it’s hard to tell. My understanding is that there has been next to no testing on serious cases but who knows the truth.
This means one thing. The insane fake news MSM, desperate to not let this destroy their fake "no hope" narrative, will blast out a counter article that THIS is fake news in 3, 2, 1...
Yep. Watch how quickly these cucks attack it and make some bullshit clickbait headline "Why TRUMP's drug will keep you alive, and why that's a BAD thing." Or one of those bullshit titles that start like "No, Trump's treatment has not yet been proved to cure Covid-19." Some shit where they count on cucks just reading the headlines.
Are you thinking of Azithromycin? It seems like the combination of that and Chloroquinine/Hydrochloroquinine MIGHT be a silver bullet. I'm holding my breath and praying that the trials underway now show positive results. It would be a game-changer if it is highly effective.
Went to look in the comments for libtards still trying to keep these drugs away from people who need it, it never fails. Libtards will fight tooth and nail to keep any life saving treatment away from people in order to "fuck trump".
Spread this first hand account from Daniel Dae Kim far and wide. Libtards will listen to one of their beloved sjw actors.
If Trump's help in pushing this stuff ends up turning the tide on this thing then it's Curtains for the Dems and.....I cannot stress this enough.....Trump should immediately go Hog Wild on these fuckers and destroy them. He'll have the High Ground on EVERYTHING from that point on and should take FULL Advantage of it. Grind these people into dust. Destroy their Party (and the Republican Establishment too while he's at it) and have a new one form without the old baggage that seems to interfere in every step of their decision making process. Wait as long as possible to let Pelosi's interference damage them even further and then spring into action.
Agreed! It's far past politics. The Dems are an evil force and it's now obvious. But I wouldn't expect Trump to go 'hog wild' as gratifying as that is. I expect careful and systematic destruction. For his last 18 months in office, I expect hundreds of Constitutionally legal, and reinforcing, changes to keep Presidents honest for at least 50 years. Then the cycle will repeat.
I can hope. I can't expect. Whatever's been happening (or not happening, as the case may be) with Burr and Durham makes me fear DJT has decided to be entirely too much of a gentleman, keep the gloves on, and force us to respond in kind to the D's putting an end to the 'unarmed revolution.' Things are supposed to be decided at the ballot box. Clearly, they are no longer content to let that happen.
Not saying China doesn't have influence, but the controlling interest of MSM is not Chinese. It's the same financial elite that own the Fed, IMF, BIS, the central banks around the world, and big pharma. They also exert undue influence in academia and hand pick our POTUS. DJT is probably the first one they haven't pre-selected since the CFR was created, which is why they hate him so much.
We actually BEAT them in 2016. We have to fucking do it again, too.
2A I think is much narrower in scope: to defend the nation against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Including making government Officials literally fear We the People.
Instead, that was attacked VERY early in our history. The rest of the world now sees us as afraid to fight, but they have no idea how effective our government is at imprisoning anyone who dares to even come close to exercising this right. We may well have to run that gauntlet soon. If they steal the general on 11/3 we need to be coordinated about entering the big igloo at the same time from everywhere.
Now follow up with the video of that MSDNCCP douchebag "reporter" claiming Drumpf was giving people false hope. Skewer the Satan worshippers with their BS.
“Despite the limitations of this study, in the absence of any effective treatment, in this urgent situation, this Plaquenil and Azithromycin combination therapy should be given to patients with COVID-19 as a treatment option,” Ying Zhang, a professor of microbiology at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, wrote in an email. “For now, there is no time to wait.”
Honestly I dont need a fucking doctor to me this common sense shit. Look. It's been proven safe, these aren't some secret ingredient meds z pak and hq have been around for ever. This has been shown to help people. Why the fuck not try it as a treatment option? Dumb fuckers.
Correct, viruses mutate can mutate a gazillion times per "sickness" (in scientific terms of course). They have nothing to correct the mistakes they make when copying themselves but in comparison to how many mutations they will make, thankfully most of them lead to nothing. :)
Got it. I'm going to follow Colton Underwood's recovery progress since we both have similar biological profiles (28, white, both work out, and hell- two people told me that I look like him) and now he's infected. He was given the treatment that Trump recommended, including an inhaler, a Z pack and maybe Benadryl.
The snarky redditor reply is: "The plural of anecdote is not data".
Yeah, well the singular of data isn't anecdote, bitch!
In all seriousness, in an emergency, we have to make a best guess. We don't have time for a 5 year long double blind placebo test involving tens of thousands of people. We need to act NOW. And if all of these reports are rolling in, looking good, on a drug that has been well known and well tested for decades, then it's time to act in that direction. We don't have the time to wait for "Data" to become available.
I bet that is why they stand so close together. They've beat it with the medicine and are now immune. I would think Trump and everyone on the Task Force would be the first to receive this treatment.
President trump made all of this possible...I think over a year ago when he made it law for patients to be able to choose therapy, at their own risk, even without FDA approval. Yet another brilliant move and step toward individual liberty!
It's currently very surreal that the news-bubble left are still cowering in a world with 18 month lockdown, 80% infection, and tens of millions of dead - and we've already cured the damn thing!
Is anyone else not seeing Trump's tweets on their twitter feed? Is this more bullshit from the left because of his approval ratings going up and the fact he's likely right about this drug treatment.
Bu bu but 2 grams will kill you. And there's no clinical trial.
Fucking losers in reddit and fake news media said that.
Trump owned this cure. Sure, he wasn't the first to discover it but he owned it while getting grilled by fake news. If it works and he's right, he'll benefit from it.
I know a doctor north of the border that is using the combination for severe cases of hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, lopinavir/ritonavir, Tolicizumab, and remdesivir. Had great success in patients as well.
**** DISCLAIMER: This goes without saying but don’t be taking this without medical supervision. This absolutely needs to be monitored by a medical professional!!! *******
There’s also a drug called Remdesivir that is also showing promise. That drug is harder to get and probably more expensive, but I don’t think this shit is gonna kill all of us. It’s time to get our economy back on track
Libs legit freaking out that this might show a lot of promise. Pathetic, they literally want millions to die so Trump looks incompetent. Surely people aren't buying this bullshit. What do you think, if this turns out to work, these scumbags shouldn't have access to it? Nah, I wouldn't advocate that because I'm a capitalist, not a communist. Their money spends just as good as anyone else's despite their sick motives and blackened soul.
A colleague of mine (who is a leftist) has had no problem lecturing people about how they need to stay at home, or they are "killing people." How we should take this seriously and we could be in for a very long and bumpy ride.
Then yesterday after news came out that people are starting to stockpile this drug, he mentioned that his doctor prescribed him some even though he doesn't need. I asked why he didn't take the high road and decline and tell the doctor to save it for someone who is at high risk? He basically said, "I got mine so I can save my life."
It's all peace, love, and inclusivity until they fear for their life and yell every man for themselves.
Giardinieri said doctors believe the episodes he experienced were not a reaction to the medicine but his body fighting off the virus.
Unbelievable these con artist quack doctors. The same people that force us into cancer treating procedures that literally give us cancer and virus fighting vaccines that give us viruses are now the ones trying to turn us away from proven methods and cures that obliterate the corona virus. Who in the flying fuck are these people?
I'm saying big pharma, a profit driven medical industry, doesn't like cheap, effective cures to a virus that keeps people dependent on their system. This article proves it by how much this guy had to fight the doctors to give him this medicine.
He could barely breathe while the doctors are giving him "all the reasons why [he] would probably not want to try it because there are no trials, there’s no testing, it was not something that was approved"
Without the medicine, his body would not have been healthy enough to fight the virus. They were trying to say the medicine had nothing to do with his recovery, even though it obviously helped.
I am a doctor myself who did over 15 years of immunology research and I can tell you right here that most doctors have no clue when it comes to research and are very close minded when it comes to new, experimental approaches; not because they are 'careful', 'conservative' or act 'in the best interest of their patients', but because most are lemmings with no vision and courage and only became doctors because they are good at memorizing textbooks, work long hours and kiss the butts of their superiors. I don't even consider them much above average intelligent. Most are spineless creatures who would rather see a patient die than take some risk and try something new like in this case. Fauci seems to be another one of them.
Follow the money. Gates and Big Pharma want expensive (and dangerous) newly patented (and not tested) vaccines.
This medicine (malaria drug) has existed and been tested for decades. Blind (placebo) studies were done of it in France on China virus. Its patent is no longer active, so you can get it for very cheaply. Of course Big Pharma and their salespeople (doctors) will often not offer a cheaper product, it is against their financial interest!
All valid points, but please realize that study in France doesn't count as a clinical trial for purposes of FDA approval. It had 36 subjects.
I've read through all studies completed as of 3/10. About 30 of them. Most are about 100 subjects which still isn't very statistically significant for something like this. None of them are very good. None of them were double blind. None of them reported any deaths or side effects.
I want me some HCQ as a preventative! Before I return to work. I'd be exposed more than most, not as much as the healthcare profession. I hope they're covered in PPE head to toe with preventative medicine to boot.
Elon Musk (and other scientists) were tweeting about HCQ+A 7 days ago (or more probably).
They pointed to a study (albeit small) showing that HCQ+A was highly effective.
It seemed to me that this crisis was about to end.
The various countries have enacted "draconian measures" involving strict lock downs and talk of closing all non essential businesses for months on end.
If we do have the medication to treat and prevent C-19 why do we need these strict lock downs which will cause an economic collapse.
Also, is it only me that thinks that if all non essential businesses close for 6, 12, 18 months, that essentially those nations economies have effectively died and upon restart the new economy will be a dictatorship of sorts, or certainly not a free market.
Seems to me that unless we do have a cure that several countries are going to be ending capitalism and becoming I guess socialist nations over the course of several months.
thxpk that's a recipe for seeing this thing get exponentially worse. Get a supply to every man woman and child in the US, yesterday. Send everybody back to work tomorrow, with leniency for those that are sick or at high risk.
HCQ is both preventative and curative. That's our silver bullet.
Hydrochloroquine! Push this shit far and wide! End this madness now! If WuFlu is curbed by a few pills a day for a week, the chaos stops immediately.
But muh side effects!
You can chop off your privates and screw with your bodies natural hormones on the whim of a mental illness but god forbid using a thus far promising drug that has been around for decades.
Lol
Victims gonna victim
Spread this first hand account from Daniel Dae Kim far and wide. Libtards will listen to one of their beloved sjw actors.
Chopped off? I thought they used the.....oh wait the shaft is used to make the vagina by turning it inside out, and they chop the balls off, or at least I think. Woke up one morning to some daytime talk show talking about the procedure. The mental scars are still there years later.
I believe it's the scrotum sack that is used to make the flesh pocket - source: "Faces of Death" I watched in the 80's
The scrotum sack skin is used for eyelid surgery. Leaves patients a bit cock eyed, but...
I will show myself out.
George Soros = this procedure gone wrong
Fucking eh lolol! This needs to be it's own thread.
........oh wow....so they cut off the......how do they even feel anyt........insert crying emoji that so gross!!!!!!
And now, lots of real homicide videos are all over the internet, published by groups like the cartels and ISIS. Progress marches on.
How dare you!
Wax my internal balls, bigot!
Fucking what?
Lmao
Only going by what I heard on TV, my friend. I'd go online to check the validity of said information, but I'm too scared to look.
There is an interesting medical animation showing what they do. TLDW: They essentially filet your dick into pieces to invert.
Do you remember the SNL skit about "tuliping?" Sometimes their social commentary is not sjw/woke biased. We need to cherish those brief moments of relative sanity:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2EVI7wIV7tk
Ya that's sad as fuck.
you aint wrong! in fact, you are correct!
Monday: I am a male who is unsuccessful at dating women. I am lonely. I wont work on anything internal, no no.. there must be a quicker and easier way out.
Tuesday: I'll say I'm a trans girl, that will get me attention and a place to belong (puts on a wig with longer hair and dresses like a traditional woman despite gender/sex not having a look..- this one always baffled me)
Wednesday: I'm attracted to women as a woman
Thursday: Women who arent attracted to my girlpenis are phobic haters and I will ruin their lives for not dating me
To liberals, all of the above is normal. But trying out a drug as fast as possible to curb a pandemic, ya, that's wrong to them?
I wonder if I get sick can I just identify as "non-viral" and put on some funny clothes and smear some makeup around my face. They then have to offer me the pills or be a bigot right?
No, because their position isn't based on logic.
Eating 40 pounds of it in one sitting will kill you! Orange man bad!
Orange man bad!
Studies show orange man is even worse than we previously thought!
BaCk tO tHe_DoNalD WiTh YoU!!! YOu NaZi!!!
perhaps?
i used to be a trump supporter but after his recent thing that he did that caused so much outrage and showed how dumb he was i am voting democrat this fall! orange man bad!
Who cares?
ikr
Why can't we have a President who represents crippled trans Muslims?? I'm literally crying right now 😣😣😣
52 genders.
Imagine if we found a cure that was near 100% effective, but was almost certainly lethal if the patient was on hormone therapy. Liberals would certainly complain on the internet even as they took the medicine.
choose:
Do we all understand what is happening???
Trump is "defeating" the coronavirus. (An illness which was never as threatening as the media purported.)
The media is now in an impossible position. They either acknowledge Trump's leadership to develop this cure, or they admit that they overhyped the danger, and it wasn't that big of a deal.
If sane, yes!
If insane, it's back to his tax returns.
If it's solved in the relative short term, this will be HUGE for Trump. First, he'll be largely credited for solving the problem and getting everyone back to work. If he can accomplish this before more of the jobs are gone, even better. Second, we now have the proper motivation to bring the manufacturing of essential products back to the US, so we're not dependent on China, or anywhere else in case of another similar emergency. That will boost the economy and create a lot of jobs in the short term to help fill in any employment gaps that developed as a result of the temporary shutdowns. Better yet, if it happens soon enough, the stimulus packages currently getting stalled in Congress might ultimately not be necessary.
I still think it was/is pretty threatening—keep seeing cases of otherwise healthy 20s-30s year-olds who are winding up in the ICU from this. The freakiest thing about this virus seems to be that there's really no telling how your immune system is going to react to it; in the past the general assumption was always that if you were young and healthy, you could fight off sickness. It's a little unsettling that that's apparently not the case, with this.
All that said, this drug looks very promising and it's so obvious that the MSM/Dems want this crisis to continue, rather than be solved.
This is the "novel" part of the novel coronavirus. No human has any innate immunity to it. If the reports of people recovering, then getting it again, and also having a worse time of it on their repeat bout(s) are true, then that contradicts fundamental thinking in medicine.
It could be those reports are just wrong due to false negative and/or false positives which is always possible but even more likely because lots of testing attempts have had problems. That would simplify this thing greatly.
Hopefully the new tests they're about to roll-out are pretty reliable.
New improved tests that haven't been used yet?
I take it these are not the DIY type we've heard might get distributed?
Sounds a lot like Malaria in that sense...
Sounds a lot like the Chinese intentionally manufactured and unleashed it upon the world.
Trouble is they will use it at this point only as a cure, not enough of the drug to use it as a preventative. I hope though that the elderly will be able to take it as a preventative, although there are still a lot of us hanging around...might not be enough.
Yes, it's a preventative, according to a 2005 study (2 years after SARS1.0) and the CDC knew it worked and they might be liable for a Class Action Law suit.
"Chloroquine is effective in preventing the spread of SARS CoV in cell culture." https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/19/chloroquine-known-as-effective-against-coronavirus-since-2005/
We need human data not only test tube data
There are many things that work in test tubes that don’t work in humans
There are many things in mouse testing that don’t work in humans
Agree with everything except the availability of these pills. In the NYC and NJ area Dr's are already prescribing this and have been for a few weeks. Many pharmacies are out of stock.
Hospitals may ave stock, they have been stockpiling since March 1, but overall there is a shortage. The Government has to step in and get pharmaceutical companies to ramp up production.
And fuck Dr. Faucci
Bayer just shipped 3 million doses out and Isreal is sending another 6 million doses to the USA
I have them in stock.
Don't forget the zinc, they work together.
Just picked up a couple bottles of zinc yesterday! There hasn't been a run on that market, stll available and cheap.
I agree Fuck that Hobbit Fauci.
It's probably good I flew out of there the other day, to ride this out with my family down south...
What did Dr. Faucci do?
It's not lupus
It's neber lewpus
underrated comment
Hell, if that logic works for liberals regarding AIDS, why can't we use it for WuFlu?
treating people who catch it will get us to the warm months when it will dry up, meanwhile vaccine is being fast tracked.
I have close to 0 hope that a vaccine will be that effective. The virus will evolve quicker than we can develop a vaccine. It's possible that the vaccine will still be somewhat effective on the mutated form, but that effectiveness is likely to be reduced. Perhaps not effective at all for some people.
One Rx that's both preventative and curative is a silver bullet!
The non-synthetic version of this medicine is called quinine. Tonic water. Drink Canada Dry.
Well. That's a lot of needed Vodka and limes needed to stay healthy.
Last time I was in a package store I was in Connecticut about 25 years ago.
10 litres of tonic water! And a side order of fries please.
Hey, gotta support the local businesses.
If the government had production ramped up, like they do with the N95 masks, there would be plenty. Dr. Faucci is standing in the way
That's probably a good point. Have to walk the line though because people are freaking out about a LOT of things right now. Important for people to know that we're getting ahead of this and we're not aLL gOiNg to DIEEEEE
there is no use trying to "prevent" for the entire population. A bigger chunk than anyone even realizes is already immune because THEY ALREADY HAD IT and thought it was a regular flu. I do not in the slightest buy that it just appeared in December in China. No way. It's been going around and China stayed silent about it for months. It was here in December, I guarantee it. My kid for example, had a nasty fever in December, it was really high. So much so we took him to his doctor and they tested for strep and influenza. Tests came back negative for both and his doc said "we're going to treat this like the flu" and he recovered in a week.
As far as it being a preventative, are we talking preventative as in it prevents your symptoms from getting worse, if you start taking it as soon as you have an inkling that you may be sick? Or as in, even healthy people should be pumping these pills across the board until the crisis has resolved?
People take Hydroxychloroquine before traveling to malaria-infested countries as prevention.
There's no point of this. Just treat people who get sick, make sure tests and treatment are available and keep the sickies home and wash your hands. The weather will warm, the virus will fade and the vaccine will be here by fall.
Everyone needs to calm their tits.
If there's a medicine that people can take if they think they might have COVID-19, before officially being tested/diagnosed, why shouldn't they be able to be prescribed it? If it can indeed be used as a preventative. Would potentially keep some people from ending up in the hospital.
Better yet would be preventative measures to stop the spread.
I think we'll get there eventually. Need to use the supplies for people who really need it right now.
$12 cost of treatment. You think that won't motivate the pharmaceutics to drag this out longer?
I get sick of people harping on the Pharma businesses. Yes, they make money at what they do, and some have been predatory at times. But these are also the companies who are finding new cures, working hard to keep production safe and clean, etc. It's not a sin that they sometimes make a lot of money on a new drug. That's how free enterprise works.
BTW - I don't work in the industry at all
People who bitch about pharma, as you noted, can rightfully have qualms with the business. But the reality is, when you have a chronic condition like I do, you realize, I don't give a shit HOW much the company makes, because they are saving my life.
Only then do you realize, that if the company needs to employs 10s of thousands of scientists, at 100's of thousands per scientist per year, is the cost of a few billion worth it.
Liberals are idiots.
I’m a registered nurse in Detroit and we are already using this drug combination!
Excellent
Can you tell us about the effectiveness of the drug combination. Are you seeing positive results in all cases?
Just a guess (and I heard this from a friend who's a doctor in Boston area also using it) but it's likely too early to tell what the results are at this point... that said, if South Korea is using it there must be results out there somewhere. I'm hoping Trump knows this already.
It is not too early to tell. Dr' s have been prescribing this for 2 weeks with success, just not in a "clinical trial" setting
I give 0 shits about said "profound difference." I'd rather not die the miserable death this stuff causes, which I am highly susceptible to. Have you read how it kills you, even on a respirator? Does not sound like a good time.
The nypost article Trump linked said it took less than a day to be free of symptoms and they kept him in the hospital on the drugs for another few days afterwards to make sure it worked.
They just started using it a few days ago and I can’t pull up a patients charts days after I had the patient to see how they are doing but I will know by the end of the week how effective it is.
Thank you! "Anecdotal" or what, I don't care. Ultimately each of us is only one data point. Life or death is a big deal when you're on the precipice.
I have heard of 0 cases where this failed to cure. That seems outright impossible, but ...
Very glad to hear that! Hydroxychloroquine has been around since the 1950's (chloroquine since the 1930's), so the side effects and drug interactions should be very well known.
Quinine has been around a lot longer.
Some 400 years. It was used by the first Europeans that could survive travel in Africa.
I just read a letter from a Dr. who has been treating his patients with this (+Z packs and Zinc) So far he has treated around 500 patients, ZERO hospitalizations
Link?
good news for America is bad news for Pedocrats
A great counter is asking them what anecdotal means and what it would take to make it non anecdotal. Good chances are they don't know and if they do (clinical studies) then you can point to the study out of France.
They are just plain wrong calling it anecdotal. Early? yes. Anecdotal? no.
Holy hell that article is crazy. This guy legitimately thought he was going to die and already had said goodbye to his family, but then he took the drug that Trump has been talking about and it saved his life. He woke up "like nothing ever happened". That is INSANE! Way to go TRUMP for getting the information out there that the news refuses to!
Weren’t there some people saying this didn’t work on already-serious cases?
I also thought it took longer than that to cure it...
Shit this might work even better than we thought.
This has worked in many cases. Saw a letter from a Dr. that treated 500 patients with it and ZERO hospitalizations
That's not exactly correct. We don't know what would have happened had he not been given the drug. It's unlikely, but he could have miraculously improved for any other reason. That's why we do clinical trials to actually understand whether or not drugs work. Simple before-after comparisons are not sufficient evidence. I really hope this drug is everything we are touting it to be, but as a researcher I am biased towards null results until proven otherwise.We will know for sure soon!!!
We know as well as we possible could that it may have worked for this man. But a lot more people survive this disease than die from it--especially at his age, so I am not sure that we have a pretty good idea what would have happened without it. That said, I totally agree that it should be used in situations like these-- remember it is already approved for off-label use and is an option for patients if they request it. I will wait for the results of trials before I argue it should be the default pharmacological intervention.
And the food pyramid was a joke. Nutritional science is today where surgery was in 1900.
No one gives a fuck about research when everyone across the country getting it is getting better. It’s simply immoral to object now.
I agree we should all have it asap. Or at least I should. I still care about research. Lots of wonderful things come from research.
We won't beat this crisis by waiting for clinical research and FDA approval. Fuck those nazis. If limes were the cure they'd pull limes off the shelf and make them Rx only. At $750.00 each.
There’s so much misinformation out there it’s hard to tell. My understanding is that there has been next to no testing on serious cases but who knows the truth.
I guess he and his family will be voting for Trump this November.
Revenge of the monks! Shaolin, I presume? We should do that. Then march on DC
This means one thing. The insane fake news MSM, desperate to not let this destroy their fake "no hope" narrative, will blast out a counter article that THIS is fake news in 3, 2, 1...
Yep. Watch how quickly these cucks attack it and make some bullshit clickbait headline "Why TRUMP's drug will keep you alive, and why that's a BAD thing." Or one of those bullshit titles that start like "No, Trump's treatment has not yet been proved to cure Covid-19." Some shit where they count on cucks just reading the headlines.
Oh its already happening bro, every libturd ive shown this too im,immediately goes to "MUH SIDE EFFECTS, TRUMP DANGEROUS"
Spin that fucking narrative in a time of crisis. I am done with these people.
Yup...I've been getting it, too.
I've been posting about that drug combo since last Monday when I saw the dude on the Ingraham Angle. Everyone is suddenly a drug trials expert.
CNN has been trying to discredit this for a few days now
After all, biden told him months ago....
look fat, hydrocodone is the best way to treat the Spanish Flu. I'll fight anyone to a push up contest who who who says otherwise.
Its because of the HCQ plant there. That won't ship any product til late April.
TRUMP MADE ME GO BACK TO WORK
my first thought as well, saving potentially thousands of lives will get turned into "reckless and irresponsible"...
MSM will give Cumo all the credit and Trump none.
Cuomo gave Trump credit this morning
I hate Cuomo with incandescent fury but he's been uncharacteristically useful through this whole thing. Maybe it's just a low bar.
Cuomo has been surprisingly rational
cool, but he's not the MSM.
His brother is.
Cumo, lmao. Probably was accidental but I like it.
Trump singled out hydrochloroquine early on. Give him credit for that. Deep State already trying to poo poo it.
He specifically mentioned it by name in a press conference, along with the other one whose name starts with an "R" (can't remember the exact name).
Does that not count as singling it out? What is your definition of that term?
Are you thinking of Azithromycin? It seems like the combination of that and Chloroquinine/Hydrochloroquinine MIGHT be a silver bullet. I'm holding my breath and praying that the trials underway now show positive results. It would be a game-changer if it is highly effective.
Thanks for nothing BOT ! I see your acount was created just minutes ago. Bwahahahaha - got you.
Went to look in the comments for libtards still trying to keep these drugs away from people who need it, it never fails. Libtards will fight tooth and nail to keep any life saving treatment away from people in order to "fuck trump".
Spread this first hand account from Daniel Dae Kim far and wide. Libtards will listen to one of their beloved sjw actors.
i heard he got it from OTHAS
If Trump's help in pushing this stuff ends up turning the tide on this thing then it's Curtains for the Dems and.....I cannot stress this enough.....Trump should immediately go Hog Wild on these fuckers and destroy them. He'll have the High Ground on EVERYTHING from that point on and should take FULL Advantage of it. Grind these people into dust. Destroy their Party (and the Republican Establishment too while he's at it) and have a new one form without the old baggage that seems to interfere in every step of their decision making process. Wait as long as possible to let Pelosi's interference damage them even further and then spring into action.
Democrats Delenda Est
Agreed! It's far past politics. The Dems are an evil force and it's now obvious. But I wouldn't expect Trump to go 'hog wild' as gratifying as that is. I expect careful and systematic destruction. For his last 18 months in office, I expect hundreds of Constitutionally legal, and reinforcing, changes to keep Presidents honest for at least 50 years. Then the cycle will repeat.
I can hope. I can't expect. Whatever's been happening (or not happening, as the case may be) with Burr and Durham makes me fear DJT has decided to be entirely too much of a gentleman, keep the gloves on, and force us to respond in kind to the D's putting an end to the 'unarmed revolution.' Things are supposed to be decided at the ballot box. Clearly, they are no longer content to let that happen.
And once this is over, he should fire Faucci's ass
Why wait?
Freedom of the press is fine, the problem is we don't have press, just a bunch of Chinese propaganda outfits.
Not saying China doesn't have influence, but the controlling interest of MSM is not Chinese. It's the same financial elite that own the Fed, IMF, BIS, the central banks around the world, and big pharma. They also exert undue influence in academia and hand pick our POTUS. DJT is probably the first one they haven't pre-selected since the CFR was created, which is why they hate him so much.
We actually BEAT them in 2016. We have to fucking do it again, too.
_bryan, freedom of the press was granted for one reason, to have an informed electorate. That should be restored, not destroyed.
Those posing as "the press" lost interest in uncovering facts and reporting them, in favor of more profitable pursuits.
Well, that was just one small slice of 1A.
2A I think is much narrower in scope: to defend the nation against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Including making government Officials literally fear We the People.
Instead, that was attacked VERY early in our history. The rest of the world now sees us as afraid to fight, but they have no idea how effective our government is at imprisoning anyone who dares to even come close to exercising this right. We may well have to run that gauntlet soon. If they steal the general on 11/3 we need to be coordinated about entering the big igloo at the same time from everywhere.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
The orange man is saving peoples lives!!
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!
Now follow up with the video of that MSDNCCP douchebag "reporter" claiming Drumpf was giving people false hope. Skewer the Satan worshippers with their BS.
It's the media that's trying to scare people of:
“Despite the limitations of this study, in the absence of any effective treatment, in this urgent situation, this Plaquenil and Azithromycin combination therapy should be given to patients with COVID-19 as a treatment option,” Ying Zhang, a professor of microbiology at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, wrote in an email. “For now, there is no time to wait.”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/marybethpfeiffer/2020/03/22/one-patient-dodges-a-covid-bullet-is-she-a-harbinger-or-outlier/#ea9ee55b843e
My firsthand experience with light Pneumonia: Z-pack works! CHINA19 can fuck off.
Upvote for CHINA19. Hadn't seen that before.
Honestly I dont need a fucking doctor to me this common sense shit. Look. It's been proven safe, these aren't some secret ingredient meds z pak and hq have been around for ever. This has been shown to help people. Why the fuck not try it as a treatment option? Dumb fuckers.
Because leftists want America to fail
I like how much he's burying the lede here.. he KNOWS there are DOZENS of studies on this drug.. THOUSANDS of TREATED and RECOVERED patients ALREADY.
Classic Trump.. build it up and drop the hammer next week. Incredible!
true. the world has been more than helpful to slow the spread, but enough is enough. Time to turn this thing around.
when did the 15 day timer start?
It ends April 1. God I hope that's not an April fool's joke.
There are multiple anecdotes coming out. At what point does it turn into data?
These are not just standard anecdotes. They are coming from Dr's and patients
I heard a rumor that the virus is mutating. However they also said martial law fwiw
Correct, viruses mutate can mutate a gazillion times per "sickness" (in scientific terms of course). They have nothing to correct the mistakes they make when copying themselves but in comparison to how many mutations they will make, thankfully most of them lead to nothing. :)
Got it. I'm going to follow Colton Underwood's recovery progress since we both have similar biological profiles (28, white, both work out, and hell- two people told me that I look like him) and now he's infected. He was given the treatment that Trump recommended, including an inhaler, a Z pack and maybe Benadryl.
The snarky redditor reply is: "The plural of anecdote is not data".
Yeah, well the singular of data isn't anecdote, bitch!
In all seriousness, in an emergency, we have to make a best guess. We don't have time for a 5 year long double blind placebo test involving tens of thousands of people. We need to act NOW. And if all of these reports are rolling in, looking good, on a drug that has been well known and well tested for decades, then it's time to act in that direction. We don't have the time to wait for "Data" to become available.
Hmm... maybe the plural of anecdote is "common sense"?
I like this.
Thousands and thousands of anecdotes are irrelevant if FDA hasn't stamped it with their golden stamp.
Fucking nazis.
Does Trump already knows this works as is letting us know to be calm and let them stockpile before going ballistic with it?
100 bucks he's already been taking it.
Smart bet! Yes, it's a preventative.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/19/chloroquine-known-as-effective-against-coronavirus-since-2005/
It stays on the bloodstream for a while. The army has used it as a prophylactic for malaria for a long time
I bet that is why they stand so close together. They've beat it with the medicine and are now immune. I would think Trump and everyone on the Task Force would be the first to receive this treatment.
He knows.
He's been doing this for 3 years now.
He doesn't say this type of stuff unless he already knows he's right.
What time is the briefing today, I need my fix. 💉
5:30 eastern time
THANK YOU! I've been looking for the briefing for the last hour lol.
Based Americans aren’t going to let this Chinese shitvirus stop us.
Lawsuit shields are up 10 fold for doctors.
President trump made all of this possible...I think over a year ago when he made it law for patients to be able to choose therapy, at their own risk, even without FDA approval. Yet another brilliant move and step toward individual liberty!
RIGHT TO TRY!
It's currently very surreal that the news-bubble left are still cowering in a world with 18 month lockdown, 80% infection, and tens of millions of dead - and we've already cured the damn thing!
And an important side effect is it prevents people from voting for Democrats!!
Is anyone else not seeing Trump's tweets on their twitter feed? Is this more bullshit from the left because of his approval ratings going up and the fact he's likely right about this drug treatment.
And with this news Fauci is fucked
Bu bu but 2 grams will kill you. And there's no clinical trial.
Fucking losers in reddit and fake news media said that.
Trump owned this cure. Sure, he wasn't the first to discover it but he owned it while getting grilled by fake news. If it works and he's right, he'll benefit from it.
"If?" There is no if. 1000's in S Kora, Singapore and Taiwan are alive because of HCQ. Ignoring China completely.
Be careful Florida man! I hear if you eat 50 of those pills at once it might kill you!
Florida man feeds Chinavirus pills to the alligator that lives in his backyard pond while wrestling with it!
The leftists will still find a reason to be mad at Trump. He can do no right by them.
Its sad that the left in this country is hoping for far worse pain to us americans
I know a doctor north of the border that is using the combination for severe cases of hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, lopinavir/ritonavir, Tolicizumab, and remdesivir. Had great success in patients as well.
**** DISCLAIMER: This goes without saying but don’t be taking this without medical supervision. This absolutely needs to be monitored by a medical professional!!! *******
Please please please work. Not even asking for it to be a miracle drug, but a drug that helps most people recover quickly.
It's real!
PDF of the study at this link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/186Bel9RqfsmEx55FDum4xY_IlWSHnGbj/view
I see fake doctor Eugene cuck is spreading China propaganda
CNN - "Chinese Virus Drug May Save Lives; Here's Why That's Bad"
and Dr.GEOTUS is also giving hope.. That orange bastard. How dare he! HOW DARE HE!
There’s also a drug called Remdesivir that is also showing promise. That drug is harder to get and probably more expensive, but I don’t think this shit is gonna kill all of us. It’s time to get our economy back on track
Libs legit freaking out that this might show a lot of promise. Pathetic, they literally want millions to die so Trump looks incompetent. Surely people aren't buying this bullshit. What do you think, if this turns out to work, these scumbags shouldn't have access to it? Nah, I wouldn't advocate that because I'm a capitalist, not a communist. Their money spends just as good as anyone else's despite their sick motives and blackened soul.
Look no further then Coronavirus subreddit
A colleague of mine (who is a leftist) has had no problem lecturing people about how they need to stay at home, or they are "killing people." How we should take this seriously and we could be in for a very long and bumpy ride.
Then yesterday after news came out that people are starting to stockpile this drug, he mentioned that his doctor prescribed him some even though he doesn't need. I asked why he didn't take the high road and decline and tell the doctor to save it for someone who is at high risk? He basically said, "I got mine so I can save my life."
It's all peace, love, and inclusivity until they fear for their life and yell every man for themselves.
haters will bring all kind of FUD. this works folks.
Unbelievable these con artist quack doctors. The same people that force us into cancer treating procedures that literally give us cancer and virus fighting vaccines that give us viruses are now the ones trying to turn us away from proven methods and cures that obliterate the corona virus. Who in the flying fuck are these people?
Hmm, seems this could be interpreted different ways. The editor or writer should have clarified.
This medicine stops the replication of the virus, which then allows the body to fight the existing virus
I'm saying big pharma, a profit driven medical industry, doesn't like cheap, effective cures to a virus that keeps people dependent on their system. This article proves it by how much this guy had to fight the doctors to give him this medicine.
He could barely breathe while the doctors are giving him "all the reasons why [he] would probably not want to try it because there are no trials, there’s no testing, it was not something that was approved"
Without the medicine, his body would not have been healthy enough to fight the virus. They were trying to say the medicine had nothing to do with his recovery, even though it obviously helped.
I am a doctor myself who did over 15 years of immunology research and I can tell you right here that most doctors have no clue when it comes to research and are very close minded when it comes to new, experimental approaches; not because they are 'careful', 'conservative' or act 'in the best interest of their patients', but because most are lemmings with no vision and courage and only became doctors because they are good at memorizing textbooks, work long hours and kiss the butts of their superiors. I don't even consider them much above average intelligent. Most are spineless creatures who would rather see a patient die than take some risk and try something new like in this case. Fauci seems to be another one of them.
Never thought I'd be upvoting Dr Evil! Lol. God Bless you Sir we need a million more just like you.
I'm convinced Fauci is part of the ongoing coup attempt. If he weren't whispering in DJT's ear we'd be closer to being back to normal.
Follow the money. Gates and Big Pharma want expensive (and dangerous) newly patented (and not tested) vaccines.
This medicine (malaria drug) has existed and been tested for decades. Blind (placebo) studies were done of it in France on China virus. Its patent is no longer active, so you can get it for very cheaply. Of course Big Pharma and their salespeople (doctors) will often not offer a cheaper product, it is against their financial interest!
All valid points, but please realize that study in France doesn't count as a clinical trial for purposes of FDA approval. It had 36 subjects.
I've read through all studies completed as of 3/10. About 30 of them. Most are about 100 subjects which still isn't very statistically significant for something like this. None of them are very good. None of them were double blind. None of them reported any deaths or side effects.
I want me some HCQ as a preventative! Before I return to work. I'd be exposed more than most, not as much as the healthcare profession. I hope they're covered in PPE head to toe with preventative medicine to boot.
Ignorance isnt bliss apparently
I'm confused.
Elon Musk (and other scientists) were tweeting about HCQ+A 7 days ago (or more probably).
They pointed to a study (albeit small) showing that HCQ+A was highly effective.
It seemed to me that this crisis was about to end.
The various countries have enacted "draconian measures" involving strict lock downs and talk of closing all non essential businesses for months on end.
If we do have the medication to treat and prevent C-19 why do we need these strict lock downs which will cause an economic collapse.
Also, is it only me that thinks that if all non essential businesses close for 6, 12, 18 months, that essentially those nations economies have effectively died and upon restart the new economy will be a dictatorship of sorts, or certainly not a free market.
Seems to me that unless we do have a cure that several countries are going to be ending capitalism and becoming I guess socialist nations over the course of several months.
Just give it to every single person tested positive and reopen the country, end of story.
thxpk that's a recipe for seeing this thing get exponentially worse. Get a supply to every man woman and child in the US, yesterday. Send everybody back to work tomorrow, with leniency for those that are sick or at high risk.
HCQ is both preventative and curative. That's our silver bullet.
Trump to speak with manufactures to make the pills RED!
Wtf was up with his ahole doctors??
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ according to this site. Total Recovered has gone up by at least 125 today. figures crossed that this is the start of the curve bending in the right way.