Destroying the economy and killing as many people as possible, and then using the complicit media to blame it all on Trump, is their only hope of winning the election. Sad but true.
I went on reddit earlier today and it was a total shithole. Had some dude say that it’s a good thing the economy will get fucked and unemployment will skyrocket because it will start a revolution. Fucking communists are so sickening
Creating as many new Democrat voters as possible before the election. Everything from china is half-ass though, so the results aren't as good as they had hoped especially with 70+ year old drugs being effective in neutralizing the virus.
Survivors are going to sue the shit out of NY for permanent lung damage. When concrete studies come out of the drug combo working, people will be calling up their lawyers.
That better just be advisory and not the fucking law. A crisis is literally the perfect time to test an "unproven" treatment that has shown some promise in small studies, especially when it's pretty much the only or best lead you have.
My wife works in a pharmacy. The Oregon Board of Pharmacy notified pharmacists of this directive. That means that pharmacists are unlikely to risk filling such a prescription.
It's crazy, it's not like it's over the counter either, it's prescription as in prescribed by a doctor. Let doctors do their jobs.
That said, Im sure that every hospital and ICU with seriously critical patients is using it. So at these the ones that need it the most won't be prevented from this treatment.
If it costs a few thousand American lives to make sure they and their cronies in the MSM can keep blaming Trump every evening for a mounting death toll, that's just a price that Democrats are willing to pay.
They would never do that because pharmacies don't make those types of decisions. They fill all prescriptions that are legally and completely filled out and signed by an accredited doctor.
Pharmacies don't get to make medical decisions at all.
if the patient doesn't have one of the diseases that it is currently approved for treatment of, then you know it's off label. It's not a pharmacy's job to decide that. They simply fill prescriptions legally signed by a doctor.
They have nothing to do with the "cans and can'ts" of it
The Board has received reports from pharmacies regarding physicians inappropriately prescribing hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil). The Board does not approve of inappropriate or false prescribing, especially in times of crisis.
Further, the Medical Board and the Board of Pharmacy provide the following reminders of some of the risks related to administering unproven therapies:
Creating the risk of adverse effects and additional harm.
Creating shortages of therapies for patients who have legitimate medical need for the drug's intended purpose and use.
Confounding the interpretation of efficacy (particularly when randomized controlled studies are necessary and are currently underway).
Providing false hope to patients or a false sense of security.
Lol... I would say that I can't wait for all of these fucking morons to eat their words, which they will have to do, but like always, nobody will be an audience to it and therefore they'll get to continue down the road like nothing ever happened....
That shit is starting to get endlessly frustrating at this point....
The result is the same. Pharmacists, doctors, and their employers are unlikely to open themselves up to the liability involved in opposing their state licensing boards.
"Zelenko said that he has been using a cocktail of drugs on his patients: hydroxychloroquine, in combination with azithromycin — an antibiotic to treat secondary infections — and zinc sulfate, which studies have suggested slows down virus replication in the body."
He adds zinc sulfate to his hydroxychloroquine-azithromycin cocktail! What a good idea.
Zinc seeps into the infected cells and fucks with the virus. That's what Zelensky said on Hannity last night. Except he said it without saying "fuck" like I did.
ZAND zinc elderberry (eld = also antiviral) lozenges are the best I know of. Apparently one of those trump meds helps force that zinc into cells better.
Possibly, especially for vegetarians who often don’t get enough dietary zinc.
Part of the issue is that zinc needs to be within cell cytoplasm to interfere with the rna reverse transcriptase used by the virus.
In that regard, zinc ionophores which allow passage of zinc across the cell membrane into the cytoplasm would likely be important.
There are some zinc ionophores available as supplements. Quercetin comes to mind.
Please note that I am not recommending supplementing with zinc, quercetin, or aquarium cleaners. Just passing on some nutritional thoughts. Do NOT megadose zinc.
Zinc lozenges, such as Cold-Eeze, coat the surface epithelium of the pharynx and some of the nasopharynx with ionic zinc, for which there is some evidence of reduced duration of rhino viruses (the common cold).
When exactly did Cuomo himself ban it? Because that would be pretty weird considering he was the other main person in the country pushing the drug along with our President for the last few days..
People really need to quit reading headlines and making assumptions from there. If you're not going to actually read an article then you have zero right to make any all-encompassing assumptions about it...
I'm pretty sure I heard Trump say that New York is going all in on hydroxychlorquine and other drugs in hospitals. Maybe they banned it for outside the hospital use because they want all of it for the sickest people?
No, they banned it for "off label" use - meaning doctors can't prescribe it for covid since it's a malaria drug.
Now the FDA stepped in and approved it for off label use nationally.
New York wanted to use it only for clinical tests - probably because their worst nightmare is if it works and people start getting better on their own without their nanny state getting them better.
It's important to note that off-label use of approved medications is permitted in every state of the union. The default is "fine as long as a doctor prescribes it".
NY had to go out of their way to change that default for this one disease for this one medication.
Okay, I am confused. I have already heard of two celebrities-Daniel Dae Kim and Colton Underwood using similar treatment for Covid-19. The malaria drug, Z-pack cocktail and both are recovering well. So why is this even a thing in NY? They are already using it in other areas of our country. NYC is hard hit. Get with it New York. The city that never sleeps better wake up.
Part of the issue is they don’t want asymptomatic people buying up the supply or hoarding.
My state medical board sent out guidelines to prescribers today recommending to limit the use to sick inpatients. They had received many reports of docs prescribing for family and asymptomatic patients.
This may not sound as bad as it is. It is being restricted for use on hospitalized patients. Seems like New York wants to stretch the supply they have and they WILL prescribe it. Pharmacists are no longer allowed to give it out outside of clinical trials in hospitals though.
On Tuesday morning, at a press conference, he said that New York hospitals would begin using the drug that day, after Trump had encouraged him to try hydroxychloroquine on patients already admitted to hospitals.
“He sent it to me, I’m using it, today,” Cuomo said. “If it works, great.”
Just saying nuance here is that it WILL still be used, just for those that probably need it most rather as a prophylactic or primary care treatment.
They banned it for off label use. They wanted to use it only for state controlled clinical trials. They weren't going to allow doctors to prescribe it in hospitals even for the sickest patients.
No these hospitals are all running trials. They banned pharmacists from handing it out, effectively stopping doctors from prescribing it off label, but doctors can just call up the pharmacist who can HAND the nurse the medication for use in hospital setting. There is no patient management, directly distributed on the ward.
Democrats are evil, but I at least think Cuomo is genuine about using them.
It reminds me a little about Hurricane Maria. I have relatives there. When it hit Puerto Rico, post-hurricane activities were normal. Clean up, no power no clean water but you prepare in advance for this.
Then, a few days later, everything stopped. Truckers went on strike. Repair and recover efforts stopped. Central depots of emergency food and water tossed that shit in dumpsters. That bitch with the custom T shirt was crying on the TV about how mean Trump is.
It's pretty clear that once communications was re-established with the island, the directive was given: fuck it up and blame Trump. Local government wanted to do the right thing but we deliberately hogtied for a political football.
Maybe. I hope everyone that needs it gets it and we don't have to hear reports by the media in 4 weeks about how if only President Trump hadn't irresponsibly announced the use of the drug hospitals could have used it freely.
A Republican will stab you in the front on ideological grounds. Democrats stab you in the back for the greater good. Look at it on the bright side. At least in death you don't have to worry about politics anymore. You know your vote automatically goes to Democrats.
Wtf is this shit? How can this be legal? We prescribe medications off-label all the time. I am pretty sure benadryl/reglan/toradol aren't labeled for migraine treatment, but I order it frequently. States banning "off label" use of medications is stripping doctors of their clinical judgment and autonomy. The drugs are already approved by the FDA and demonstrated to be safe enough. Are we sure this isn't just the states doing this to prevent docs from prescribing it to themselves/friends/family and hoarding it, making it less available for the critically ill? Seems kind of unlikely that they'd do this specifically to screw with one specific doctor.
Then have the state medical board send a letter informing doctors they must have medical rationale (ie, a positive test, or prior history of prescriptions for existing non-COVID conditions), and restrict prescriptions to a number of pills and record like they already have in place for controlled substances.
Those ghouls would rather people died than for Trump to be right on such a thing. btw, are they also going to ban all the pharmaceuticals they're putting transgender people on because each and every one of them are being used for an off label purpose.
The left will do anything to keep us from getting a cure.
Destroying the economy and killing as many people as possible, and then using the complicit media to blame it all on Trump, is their only hope of winning the election. Sad but true.
That's a TL;dr for anybody who's been in a coma for the last month.
I went on reddit earlier today and it was a total shithole. Had some dude say that it’s a good thing the economy will get fucked and unemployment will skyrocket because it will start a revolution. Fucking communists are so sickening
At this point, knowing this treatment is pretty solid, the left is just murderers.
To intentionally pull something like this is horrible. Disgraceful.
They have no problem murdering babies so .....
The shadow agents of the DNC(in the DC bureaucracy) , working with thier Chinese partners, made sure to get the virus over here..
Edit: slight fix
The left want a cure -- but want it to wait until it can be announced by Michelle Obama after she assumes the nomination for President.
Gov. Cuomo to the rescue.
I have money on it, literally
The left is largely run by big pharma. Obamacare was their ultimate dream.
Absolute proof that the Dems want to use the crisis to end Trump. As always, it will backfire in their faces.
Especially at the cost of American lives. They hate Americans.
Creating as many new Democrat voters as possible before the election. Everything from china is half-ass though, so the results aren't as good as they had hoped especially with 70+ year old drugs being effective in neutralizing the virus.
Now that ISIS is gone they have to somehow.
BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.
Hunker down, folks. The treatment appears to be very effective. As results come in the left will have to give up.
But they won't give up easily. They're going to roadblock as much as they can.
Don't catch this shit anytime soon. Be careful until the weight of reality forces these demonic assholes to give in.
Remember: THEY WANT THE OLD TO DIE. If their geezers in Congress get it, you better believe they'll get the correct treatment.
They have more viruses to release, Trump needs to unleash FIRE and FURY on those responsible! 🔥🔥🤬🤬
Right to Try law was passed and TRUMPS your attempts to inflate the body count - suck it Cuomo and DeBlazzio
Cuomo was one of the very few people pushing this drug along with the President. Get your facts straight.
Cuomo would rather thousands did New Yorkers die then make trump look good.
Cuomo is only allowing state approved trials, he is preventing pharmacists dispensing for off label use
https://thedonald.win/p/FMJQnFPo/ny-limits-the-use-of-chloroquine/
EDIT: changed prescribing to dispensing
Survivors are going to sue the shit out of NY for permanent lung damage. When concrete studies come out of the drug combo working, people will be calling up their lawyers.
Better call Saul....
Oregon just did the same thing.
Any links?
https://www.oregon.gov/omb/Topics-of-Interest/Pages/COVID-19.aspx
That better just be advisory and not the fucking law. A crisis is literally the perfect time to test an "unproven" treatment that has shown some promise in small studies, especially when it's pretty much the only or best lead you have.
My wife works in a pharmacy. The Oregon Board of Pharmacy notified pharmacists of this directive. That means that pharmacists are unlikely to risk filling such a prescription.
Yeah, wouldn't want to give somebody about to die "false hope."
They literally put that in the directive.
It's crazy, it's not like it's over the counter either, it's prescription as in prescribed by a doctor. Let doctors do their jobs.
That said, Im sure that every hospital and ICU with seriously critical patients is using it. So at these the ones that need it the most won't be prevented from this treatment.
They legislate from the bench
Now they prescribe from the pharmacy
Dems just can't stand people doing things they don't want you to do. Tyrants, the lot of then.
If it costs a few thousand American lives to make sure they and their cronies in the MSM can keep blaming Trump every evening for a mounting death toll, that's just a price that Democrats are willing to pay.
Lemme guess.. the same people that will let someone commit suicide if they want?
How does the pharmacist know whether or not the doctor is prescribing off label?
It's often on the prescription. They can also tell by the other medications the patient is on. If in doubt, they can always call the doctor.
I expect a 'malaria epidemic' shortly.
They would never do that because pharmacies don't make those types of decisions. They fill all prescriptions that are legally and completely filled out and signed by an accredited doctor.
Pharmacies don't get to make medical decisions at all.
if the patient doesn't have one of the diseases that it is currently approved for treatment of, then you know it's off label. It's not a pharmacy's job to decide that. They simply fill prescriptions legally signed by a doctor.
They have nothing to do with the "cans and can'ts" of it
But the pharmacist isn't given the diagnosis info in the RX. Anyway I think Nevadans can just go across the border to get their RX's filled?
Oregon: Inappropriate Hydroxychloroquine Prescribing
The Board has received reports from pharmacies regarding physicians inappropriately prescribing hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil). The Board does not approve of inappropriate or false prescribing, especially in times of crisis.
Further, the Medical Board and the Board of Pharmacy provide the following reminders of some of the risks related to administering unproven therapies:
Creating the risk of adverse effects and additional harm. Creating shortages of therapies for patients who have legitimate medical need for the drug's intended purpose and use. Confounding the interpretation of efficacy (particularly when randomized controlled studies are necessary and are currently underway). Providing false hope to patients or a false sense of security.
Lol... I would say that I can't wait for all of these fucking morons to eat their words, which they will have to do, but like always, nobody will be an audience to it and therefore they'll get to continue down the road like nothing ever happened....
That shit is starting to get endlessly frustrating at this point....
Looks like they “don’t approve”. Which is different from a prohibition.
The result is the same. Pharmacists, doctors, and their employers are unlikely to open themselves up to the liability involved in opposing their state licensing boards.
Aaaaand...now it's officially prohibited.
https://www.oregon.gov/pharmacy/Pages/index.aspx
Sucks to be and Oregonean!
Nevada has banned it too.
Americans are on the side of The Cure, because they want people to live, and they don’t care if it helps Trump.
Democrats are on the side of The Virus, because they want people to die, and all they care about is hurting Trump.
Fuck NY
From the article:
"Zelenko said that he has been using a cocktail of drugs on his patients: hydroxychloroquine, in combination with azithromycin — an antibiotic to treat secondary infections — and zinc sulfate, which studies have suggested slows down virus replication in the body."
He adds zinc sulfate to his hydroxychloroquine-azithromycin cocktail! What a good idea.
Zinc seeps into the infected cells and fucks with the virus. That's what Zelensky said on Hannity last night. Except he said it without saying "fuck" like I did.
I just ate three bottles of Flintstone vitamins. Will report back tomorrow.
As long as your don't suck down your aquarium cleaner, you should be good!
Whoops, instructions unclear, tripped onto a bottle of fish tank cleaner, my corpse will now be used to run #OrangeManBad campaign for a week
Flintstone vitamins have trans fats. Recommend almost anything else.
I am not saying that Flintstone vitamins will be effective, but if they are, I am pretty sure no one is going to give a shit about trans fats.
Are there Gilligan's Island vitamins? I'll trade you all my Professors for two Gingers and a Maryann.
ZAND zinc elderberry (eld = also antiviral) lozenges are the best I know of. Apparently one of those trump meds helps force that zinc into cells better.
Elderberry is very good, but you have to replenish your gut bacteria after you're done. I usually drink Kefir to replenish mine. Works like a charm.
Possibly, especially for vegetarians who often don’t get enough dietary zinc.
Part of the issue is that zinc needs to be within cell cytoplasm to interfere with the rna reverse transcriptase used by the virus.
In that regard, zinc ionophores which allow passage of zinc across the cell membrane into the cytoplasm would likely be important.
There are some zinc ionophores available as supplements. Quercetin comes to mind.
Please note that I am not recommending supplementing with zinc, quercetin, or aquarium cleaners. Just passing on some nutritional thoughts. Do NOT megadose zinc.
Zinc lozenges, such as Cold-Eeze, coat the surface epithelium of the pharynx and some of the nasopharynx with ionic zinc, for which there is some evidence of reduced duration of rhino viruses (the common cold).
I just swallowed the AAA batteries from my remote. Am I good now?
No silly, you need some fish tank cleaner or it totally doesn't work.
kek
Zinc with quercetin
I'm very eager to see this guy's results tabulated by age, medical condition, etc. So far we just have a letter and that video he made.
How soon until we see NY clinical trial results?
Democrats are fucking evil what the fuck
Gov. Cuomo: WE NEED HELP Dr. Z: It's dangerous to go alone! Take this." Gov Cuomo: NO NOT THAT, I BANNED IT!
Sorry mini Mike, I didn't see you inside that soda cup.
When exactly did Cuomo himself ban it? Because that would be pretty weird considering he was the other main person in the country pushing the drug along with our President for the last few days..
People really need to quit reading headlines and making assumptions from there. If you're not going to actually read an article then you have zero right to make any all-encompassing assumptions about it...
I'm pretty sure I heard Trump say that New York is going all in on hydroxychlorquine and other drugs in hospitals. Maybe they banned it for outside the hospital use because they want all of it for the sickest people?
No, they banned it for "off label" use - meaning doctors can't prescribe it for covid since it's a malaria drug.
Now the FDA stepped in and approved it for off label use nationally.
New York wanted to use it only for clinical tests - probably because their worst nightmare is if it works and people start getting better on their own without their nanny state getting them better.
It's important to note that off-label use of approved medications is permitted in every state of the union. The default is "fine as long as a doctor prescribes it".
NY had to go out of their way to change that default for this one disease for this one medication.
Bingo
Okay, I am confused. I have already heard of two celebrities-Daniel Dae Kim and Colton Underwood using similar treatment for Covid-19. The malaria drug, Z-pack cocktail and both are recovering well. So why is this even a thing in NY? They are already using it in other areas of our country. NYC is hard hit. Get with it New York. The city that never sleeps better wake up.
Part of the issue is they don’t want asymptomatic people buying up the supply or hoarding.
My state medical board sent out guidelines to prescribers today recommending to limit the use to sick inpatients. They had received many reports of docs prescribing for family and asymptomatic patients.
Which is 100% appropriate from the medical board, not the governor.
If the toilet paper hoarding is as bad as it seems, I can't even imagine how the medication hoarding might be.
Imagine, what if "there are forces at play that would prefer to see the economy collapse rather than President Trump to look good"?
This may not sound as bad as it is. It is being restricted for use on hospitalized patients. Seems like New York wants to stretch the supply they have and they WILL prescribe it. Pharmacists are no longer allowed to give it out outside of clinical trials in hospitals though.
Just saying nuance here is that it WILL still be used, just for those that probably need it most rather as a prophylactic or primary care treatment.
No, wishful thinking.
They banned it for off label use. They wanted to use it only for state controlled clinical trials. They weren't going to allow doctors to prescribe it in hospitals even for the sickest patients.
No these hospitals are all running trials. They banned pharmacists from handing it out, effectively stopping doctors from prescribing it off label, but doctors can just call up the pharmacist who can HAND the nurse the medication for use in hospital setting. There is no patient management, directly distributed on the ward.
Democrats are evil, but I at least think Cuomo is genuine about using them.
It reminds me a little about Hurricane Maria. I have relatives there. When it hit Puerto Rico, post-hurricane activities were normal. Clean up, no power no clean water but you prepare in advance for this.
Then, a few days later, everything stopped. Truckers went on strike. Repair and recover efforts stopped. Central depots of emergency food and water tossed that shit in dumpsters. That bitch with the custom T shirt was crying on the TV about how mean Trump is.
It's pretty clear that once communications was re-established with the island, the directive was given: fuck it up and blame Trump. Local government wanted to do the right thing but we deliberately hogtied for a political football.
Exactly this. ^
Yes, but there are likely hospitals in upstate NY and rural areas that aren't enrolled in the trials. There will be lawsuits.
Maybe. I hope everyone that needs it gets it and we don't have to hear reports by the media in 4 weeks about how if only President Trump hadn't irresponsibly announced the use of the drug hospitals could have used it freely.
NYC: Fuck upstate. Keep paying those taxes though!
I hope you're right. It gives me grim feelings to imagine democrats wanting people to die just to fuck with the election.
A Republican will stab you in the front on ideological grounds. Democrats stab you in the back for the greater good. Look at it on the bright side. At least in death you don't have to worry about politics anymore. You know your vote automatically goes to Democrats.
The left demonstrates over and over again that the seek only death and destruction.
Wtf is this shit? How can this be legal? We prescribe medications off-label all the time. I am pretty sure benadryl/reglan/toradol aren't labeled for migraine treatment, but I order it frequently. States banning "off label" use of medications is stripping doctors of their clinical judgment and autonomy. The drugs are already approved by the FDA and demonstrated to be safe enough. Are we sure this isn't just the states doing this to prevent docs from prescribing it to themselves/friends/family and hoarding it, making it less available for the critically ill? Seems kind of unlikely that they'd do this specifically to screw with one specific doctor.
You might say they're interfering with our right to choose.
Then have the state medical board send a letter informing doctors they must have medical rationale (ie, a positive test, or prior history of prescriptions for existing non-COVID conditions), and restrict prescriptions to a number of pills and record like they already have in place for controlled substances.
Then they dig through their prescription history and look for anything to fuck them on.
Those ghouls would rather people died than for Trump to be right on such a thing. btw, are they also going to ban all the pharmaceuticals they're putting transgender people on because each and every one of them are being used for an off label purpose.
So anyone who is upstate and not in the clinical trial who dies or suffers complications will sue the hell out of NY.
You can't sue NY if you're dead...
... but the dead can vote Democrat.
<insert finger thinking meme here>
They can try to get on the now over 500 patient long waiting list for Gilead's Remdesivir.
Don't trust your life to fish tank cleaner!
Ask your doctor about Remdesivir instead!
Your insurance will pay for some of it, probably.
it won't be long until these leftists wont be able to walk down the street because of all they've done against humanity and this country.
Vlad Zelenko? RUSSIAN COLLUSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Democrats refuse to stand and applaud.
Wow this would make a great book. Quite an interesting character. Pray to God he's right and in a few months he's a national hero.
I have a vision of Zelensky at the SOTU address next year.
NV Sisolak Gov. banned it.
ESCAPE FROM NY
Big pharma doesn't want a $12 cure. They want to have their own $10,000 cure. DON'T YOU DARE QUESTION THEM!
if fda approves it for offlabel use does that make it onlabel use? or do we still need to print new labels?
Who cares that the Dr. is Jewish?
Cuomo himself was pushing it just a couple of days ago, so who exactly in the state supposedly banned it?