How do we start a movement? I was just talking to my sister about this. The media must be held accountable for their actions in not only this but all of their fake news and stealth edits/retractions. The people have had enough.
Edit: I guess better phrasing is: Many in my community are furious with the media and want to get involved in holding them accountable. Where can we start?
We need a Department of Justice. Media needs to be charged with sedition because they knowingly and maliciously tried to crash our economy -- a Soros specialty, btw.
The media is running cover for the Dept of Injustice while it keeps itself busy with Stone and Flynn. Anyone heard anything about Durham recently? Wasn't he supposed to be wrapping things up around this time?
What the DOJ can only try one case at a time now? With the $30 billion a year we pay them, they should be able to handle hundreds, even at government efficiency.
For some reason June or July pops into my mind when I try to recall when he is supposed to be wrapping things up. Honestly, I would not want him coming out now with bombshells. Let things settle.
Start with China. There has never been a point in history where more people have been allied against them than right now and it’s about damn time that people woke up to the problems that they have caused
What is to stop China from releasing another virus next year and the year after that? Non of these criminals are held accountable. Like a bully, you need to fight back.
They could still send goods as long as they treat them like gas stations in dodgy areas. Define quarantine date for goods with zero people. Let them load the goods off the boat on a quarantined area. Wait the period. Then get the goods. And increase tariffs to pay for it all.
At the voting booth. I'm not being sarcastic, either. In the 2008 crisis the major media companies were given mind boggling sums of federal dollars to prop them up. Start all the movements you want, if the Dems are cutting them bailout checks every time they run out of money, they ain't going anywhere.
I'm thinking a class action lawsuit. Small businesses, medium, large, and citizens can easily demonstrate real monetary damages due to media overflowing the situation. It has to be illegal to purposely induce panic and hysteria.
Edit: the lawsuits have to start somewhere. You or your local businesses need to find good attorneys. Maybe the ones that succeeded in getting payouts from CNN for the Covington boys?
He will come around. Right now he is one of the only people allowed to post on t_d. Keep in mind that although Judicial Watch is a non-profit, he is there to promote its cause and get people to donate. So he is going to spend his time where he can get the most exposure.
It seemed to me from the beginning that we were under attack by the Chinese govt and that the media was knowingly or unknowingly complicit, but I dont know for sure. I'm more confident that the media is primarily responsible for the economic devastation and can be sued for lots of damages
I wonder if the deep state and chicoms are colluding to pull the strings behind the media. Can't be a coincidence how china gets nothing but positive news coverage and the media won't go after Comey, Page and Strzok.
Yep. He went from predicting 500,000 deaths in the UK to 20,000, more than half of whom he now says would have died by the end of the year anyway because are so old/sick. He also claimed there would not be enough ICU beds- now says the hospitals will be fine. Also, just last week thought 18+ months of quarantine would be necessary- now says it will peak and subside within 2 to 3 weeks. This is the guy whose work the media has constantly cited- fueling panic.
Weird how I, not a professional epidemiologist but just a lowly data analyst with access to publicly available historical data, was able to predict essentially the exact same thing way back when the professional worst case scenario imaginers was still saying we were all going to die.
These regularly occurring novel virus outbreaks barely move the needle on all-cause mortality because the majority of deaths are "stolen" from other causes. When more people die of virus A, fewer people die of viruses B through Z.
"Very soon too. Just 12 years. Excuse me, what's that? Why did I buy a $9 million home on the Atlantic coast if I think the world is going to flood due to global warming? What kind of racist question is that?"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't US death rate trajectory from COVID-19 Kung Flu still less that the H1N1 death trajectory? So far it looks like COVID-19 will kill less people than H1N1 (swine flu) of 2009-2010 here in the US. Am I wrong?
Little talked about fact, H1N1 is the strain of influenza that caused the much touted "Spanish flu" outbreak of 1918. It's been around at LEAST 100 years, so if you count the entirety of its death toll, then CoV-19 has a LOT of catching up to do.
Just limiting it to the bad flu season of 2009-2010, so far H1N1 is still worse. It's unusually more dangerous to people between the ages of 25-65, while CoV-19 only seems to be really dangerous to the same elderly or chronically ill people that any common cold virus can kill.
Here's the real trick, though. H1N1 wasn't "that bad" either. Around 3.8 MILLION Americans die every year. Pneumonia as a complication from flu or colds is in the top ten causes of death for every age group 0-25 and 65 and up EVERY YEAR. Whenever a specific virus gets famous for killing more than its share, it generally means FEWER people are dying from all the other viruses.
As a result, all-cause mortality barely changes. The odds of you dying from any viral infection are still lower than the odds of you dying in a slip-and-fall accident. Of course the MOST likely cause of death BY FAR is old age, but that doesn't sell the papers.
You could take every person infected with this shit right now, kill them all, and it wouldn't be a blip on the annual mortality rate.
This shit is so overblown it's ridiculous. I don't like Bill Mitchell, but he phrased it correctly: It's a viral pneumonia that the media is making people believe is the black plague.
It all makes more sense when you remember that 50% of the population the media is broadcasting to is literally clinically retarded. Their message is not for people capable of critical thinking.
No the Imperial College report always predicted that if drastic “suppression measures” were taken like shutting down social gatherings and nonessential businesses, then the deaths would be limited to the thousands. https://twitter.com/jeremycyoung/status/1239975682643357696?s=21
Most of the country has not taken anywhere near the level of "drastic measures" they suggested- face it, he dramatically overestimated the impact. Even he now admits it. To suggest otherwise is the worst kind of revisionist history. Also, they predicted, even if the most draconian measures were taken to slow the spread, all the ventilators would be in use. Not even close.
Mitigation measures were not enacted to the level they suggested
Most mitigation measures that have been enacted were done 2 to 3 weeks later than they suggested
Even if the government enacted the most draconian mitigation measures, at the time they were suggested, they predicted every ventilator would currently be in use- clearly that is not happening
He himself admits his underlying assumptions were incorrect
He was drastically wrong and it has little to do with the government response, which has been much slower than what he called for and not nearly as stringent. His estimates, which the media ran with, have put over 3 million Americans out of work. There needs to be accountability for all who pushed this madness. And that does not mean the China Virus is not a serious public health issue- but the only people the media had on tended to be those spreading panic. Scientists that said we were overreacting were not given equal time to make their case. That was wrong.
Someone needs to telling Joe Scarborough that Neil Ferguson updated his estimate. What a fucking TDS moron who has been pushing panic. He just tweeted this. These propagandists need to be shamed and held accountable.
https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/1243189627923697665?s=20
Just one "expert" in a long line of "experts" to be absurdly wrong. The very same "elites" who have been making decisions all these years that exposed the world to this pandemic from their free trade agreements to their open borders.
Silver lining... The US is in a frenzy and this doomsday scenario is all anyone is hearing about. When it turns out to be a fraction of what people were expecting, President Trump is going to look like a hero.
The media will 100%. But every time the media throws their reputation in the paper shredder, more and more Americans realize the media hates you and loves lying.
That's ridiculous. They guy's an idiot and gave a shitty opinion (or maybe a smart guy who just happened to get this one thing wrong) and the media took his prediction and ran with it. No reason we should sue him for all he's worth.
It's actually the media and government to blame for believing it and running with it. People make stupid doomsday predictions all the time like Al Gore and other self proclaimed 'experts'. Media should be sued into oblivion for fear mongering and shutting down the economy.
I'm with you. I hate seeing "dems get away with it" all the time, or similar statements. It comes off as submission to this bullshit and when others see it they fall in line and just accept it as fact, and ultimately tolerate it. Disgusting.
All of these crooks, not limited to the virus scare, need to be locked up for a long time AT MINIMUM. Many need to be swinging.
I knew this was bullshit from the beginning and I've been going about my life. People on social media have been chastising me for going out and doing things. Fucking moral busybodies
The person he is talking about is British Epidemiologist neil ferguson who predicted world catastrophic death tolls. He has now since changed his position to it being very mild.
Trump already knows this. That is why he wants to reopen the economy by Easter. The left want it to drag on for another month or 7. If they are successful in driving his numbers down to the point of him losing, then miraculously the virus is no longer a threat and it was because of proactive governors shutting down their states.
Here's the deal, I don't blame Trump for this, he has to take a threat of a pandemic seriously but I believe this was planned by the Chinese and the globalists to crash our economy. I wouldn't put it past the Chinese to pull other measures before the election like with bonds. I think we've been had but until this is over keep your memory fresh and your anger directed in the right place .
The Chinese and the Democrats 100% are coordinating on this. It's why de blasio told people to go to the Chinese new year celebrations in NY and to fight xenophobia.
This sucks and does hurt, but boy howdy are there a lot of lessons being learned. At some point, a truly terrible disease will come about -- world's full of shitholes.
Silver lining is that this is tremendous practice and we'll be properly ready for the next go around. Since we're not actually all gonna die right now, we will recover bigly.
At least the mortality rate isnt anywhere near what it could be. The scary infectious incubation stage with no symptoms is what terrified the world. That seems extremely man made. I do it every time i play Pandemic because it works. You gotta get your infected rate up then mutate. Duuh.
I think Trump's team has probably already come to the conclusion that letting the virus ravage the country and kill 20% of the elderly is better than shutting down all business for 18 months.
Andy Beshear looking like a hero in Kentucky for this. He's really not even doing much other than locking the state down.
Not giving too much revealing info but I'm IT for the state and we've been bending over backwards following the work from home directives. Our VPN system was overloaded early on and had to be massively expanded, desktops encrypted and set up for home use for people who didn't want to use a laptop or set up SSLVPN on their home computer (2 clicks is hard), tons of stuff. And getting an insane amount of praise for it
My wife’s friend on fb says they know someone who was super healthy and they got it and now they’re on a ventilator and the hospital is full and and and then that all disappears into thin air... a lot of bullshit
Some people will die. Some will point to that as evidence of a crisis. They ignore the fact that thousands and thousands die of flu every year. An average of 25k+ people die of flu yearly in the USA alone. Nobody bats an eye. But somebody screams on the news about it and suddenly everyone loses their minds. Next step: give us your money so we can save you.
This. Thousands of people die EVERY DAY for all sorts of reasons. The trick they are pulling is trying to attribute as many of those as possible to the Chinavirus.
17 year old just died of it in Lancaster! It could happen to YOU! No one is safe!.......not even included in the fine print: He was already losing a battle with Leukemia.
The world needs better leaders. Just like Trump says, the doctors will all ask for two years. That's fine of course they are health officials. The economic official probably wants nothing to ever shut down. That's also fine they are the economic official.
A good leader weighs the opinions of all advisors and tries to find a middle ground.
This, 100% this, health advisors will recommend isolation for a year to be safe, they don't know the unintended consequences of such an action. Society is all about compromise of risk managment. We have cars even though car accidents kills tens of thousands each year because the value of the car is worth it. The value of a functioning economy is worth ten thousand deaths but not worth a million, where to draw the line is what grest leaders do, this is the hard calaculus of real politik. Every life is presious but in a nation of 300 million statistically almost any action that affects them all will kill some. So its all about what degree in scale we are acceptable with, as dark as that sounds.
The health officials damn well should know the consequences of such an action. Can you imagine the mental health impact of shutting down a society for a year? Older people will die simply from the isolation, as will those on the edge of offing themselves. Even healthy minded people would be scarred, kids will be for sure. It's unfathomable what health impacts that would cause.
I agree. Except about "middle ground". Leaders find good solutions. A good leader doesn't give a fuck about middle ground. It sounds like I'm being a nit-picky bitch here but IMO it's important that people understand that "middle ground" does not equal solutions. Middle ground is communism. Middle ground is prison. Good solutions are something entirely different. Fuck "middle ground" right in the face.
I was just typing things as I thought. There's no intent to promote communism here. I advocate wholly for finding solutions the American way.
My username has nothing to do with the China party (not that it wouldn't apply there). It's from the СССР or in our alphabet the USSR. I am semi-obsessed with the study of life (and the lack of life) in the Soviet Union and I absolutely abhor communism.
"Middle ground" is a common saying. I understood what you meant; my commentary was not a critique of your words. It was a direct criticism of a culture built on "compromise" and "participation awards".
But it's only better than predicted because of all the socialism and oppression! This proves the system works. We're going to have to do this every single time anyone discovers a novel infectious disease anywhere in the future. Thank God the panic mongers were able to save us from all the people trying to preach calm, rational controls. We should probably send even MORE money to globalist, extra-governmental agencies to keep us all safe from ourselves.
You are not alone. Most people are unaware. Also in that list is the payroll tax, which you pay but never see. It's not on your pay stubs or your tax return. If you switch from W2 to 1099 it'll slap you in the face though. 7.5%.
Nobody in the USA has been talking about Neil Ferguson. The bigger negligence has been from the WHO when they bought into China's lies about COVID-19 not being transmittable through person-to-person contact.
His model has been used by many countries and media during this event. This website, very popular with the media, and the doom and resistance crowd, uses his model. https://www.covidactnow.org
They may be trying to shift to other models, since the UK guy has been lambasted recently.
While I acknowledge the massive stranglehold the MSM has on America, in my house Ive been optimistic that these lockdown orders won't last very long, and especially not anywhere the lengths the MSM will try and get you to believe.
Why? Because I knew that the odds of this virus being anything close to what they say it might be were slim to none, and at some point the raw data would no longer be open to panic inducing speculation.
Anyone who has ever engaged with me on this I simply redirect them to the numbers the CDC has on every pandemic, including the seasonal flu, and let them make an interpretation for themselves.
Many will still cling to the headlines, but some I've talked to snap out of it and see the situation for what it is. Pretty soon these headlines will start to fade out.
The real question is, which I've heard many people calling for here, is how do we get the public to remember how much they were lied to once this thing blows over? Hopefully we figure that one out quick, because we are running out of time until they find the next thing to latch on to
That's the hardest part, getting people to remember. They have a 3 day memory. If it's not at the top of Google news, Twitter and Reddit, then it doesn't exist.
That said, people tend to remember things more when they cause them pain. That's just how the brain works. A lot of people still remember 2008. Why? Because massive pain was involved. Hopefully the same will be true about this panic scare.
All good points. It will be hard to have people remember how much they were and are lied to by the MSM. One of the MSM's main jobs is to generate confusion and panic
Almost completely unwarranted too. It's fucking our economy. It's taking our jobs. It's ruining relationships. It's redefining our entire everyday lives and it's a huge load of shit. It completely fucks almost all small businesses, especially in retail. Think about it - these mandated shutdowns for "non-essential" businesses is causing people to shop on Amazon (fuck you, Jeff Bezos, you greedy jackass) instead of purchasing products locally. Wake the fuck up, sheeple!
Market crashed when demand dropped for oil. Oil crashed 30%. Stock markets followed.
Original report from Ferguson showed worst case scenarios if action wasn't taken.
Trump took action. Shut down travel from Europe almost immediately, and then the U.K.
Market was already in freefall. Infections were already starting in New York because de Blasio and Dems encouraged people to underestimate seriousness of the disease. They encourage people to go to Chinatown for Chinese New Years as a fuck you to Trump for the travel ban.
Now Ferguson is saying that with the new restrictions in place, the death toll in U.K. can be held to 20,000.
The market in the U.S. is going up again because Trump and Pence's 15 day plan is working. It's buying time to test hydroxychloroquine and keeping hospitals from being overwhelmed.
It's given Congress the certainty to pass the $2 trillion stimulus and re-open the country in two weeks - with hotspots like New York still being shut down.
The major players in the financial markets knew what was going to happen back in December and January. Do you really think multi-billion dollar banks like JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs would lose billions of dollars based on some professor in the U.K.'s theory without running models themselves?
Or that Trump would go along with it without confirming the models himself with other experts? And using his own common sense?
What are your thoughts on China taking advantage of the situation (a weakened/distracted West)..
I've always wondered when China was going to instigate a major offensive and disguise it as 'From Russia w/ Love'... but this virus seems to accomplish more than any conventional offensive ever could., A real war would unite the West against the common enemy - but this very sudden problem and an all-too real [communist] solution pre-packaged and ready to go...
I have serious concerns (lol, not concern trolling!) about our ability to survive this unless we All realize what is happening. Covid-19 isn't as much of a threat as the impending police-state that Trump might not be able to keep control of. I trust in God, and Trump, and myself... but the driver in me knows you can't control everyone else on the road, you can only react and expect them to do what they're indicating. Lots of idiots out there trying to turn this into forever change. (Microsoft, Soros+, people like Trudeau and the others.. Deepstate/WHO/China+..)
If this is truly a man made virus test run where they were simply testing the infectious incubation period with just flu symptoms then a real deployment sounds scary.
Yeah people are reacting wrongly to this report. The updated 20k toll is based on policy and enforcement changes that were made, not on incorrect modeling. The original report even said that these measures would likely be necessary for up to 2 months then the concentration of the virus would have dropped low enough to relax the restrictions. Then they said it may become necessary after another month to increase restrictions again as the virus spreads and so on until a vaccine is developed. If the Chloraquine cocktail is proven an effective treatment and better tests are developed and people get tested before they see symptoms, restrictions may not need to be ramped back up because the effective treatment and testing will take their place.
I've always been a little too skittish to enter the stock market but this fake crisis gave me the opportunity I needed to enter and build myself a position. Thanks, Democrats!
I tried to buy when the Dow was at 18500 but the broker couldn't process my deposit fast enough so I ended up buying the next day after it jumped 11%. Still pretty good imo.
That stuff will end and it will have to end soon because you can't coop a society up for months on end without serious consequences. People will have to get this virus, that is absolutely inevitable. We can only hope to protect the most at risk. How did his forecast change?
He just came out yesterday saying his original estimate of 500k deaths in the UK was wrong and it will be more like 20k deaths, almost all of which will be people that would have died this year anyways.
Apparently the UK only started doing social distancing on March 18th, and only started to some lockdowns in parts of the UK (still not a national lockdown apparently) two days ago.
I'm seriously disturbed to see the efforts to prevent people from being able to use the drug combo Trump has flagged as promising by media, by governments and experts Don't get it.
Reopening the economy is a must and I dont think we will see a significant uptick in cases like they are reporting (knock on wood). We will see some unfortunately. However, it wont be as significant. The virus/media has scared enough people that the social distancing will continue to occur, in the sense that people are going to keep their distance are going to be clean freaks and germaphobes to the highest degree. On top of that in April some states will begin to see humid 80 degree weather start coming in to play. Add to that the impact of improving herd immunity, the Hydro Chloriquin treatment, and all the new information coming out......I think its a calculated risk that must be taken.
2T. That is 2000 million million dollars. America, do you understand how much fucking money we're gonna waste/lose on a bad news report? Do you? 25m on the Kennedy Center is barely a drop in lake superior.
Wasn't Imperial College the same idiots who came up with the inaccurate and made up "hockey stick" global warming were all gonna die graph? Or was that someone else in the UK?
Am i the only one who sees this as "peak oil" or "climate change" or "N Korea nuclear attack" or "insert idiot panic here"? My whole life, the progressives have been "drive-by shooting" these non-sense fears.
Each time I'm not allowed to say that I firmly doubt it and move on with my life. Each time I have to pay some tithe. The Chinese Virus cost is way too high.
This is all wrong. The report predicted 2M deaths if only mild “mitigation measures” were taken, like social distancing for the elderly. The same report said that if more drastic “suppression measures” were taken, like those that have actually been taken, then the deaths would be limited to the thousands. There is no “he was totally wrong.” The governments followed the advice in the report and now are seeing the predictions play out as expected.
Lol. Yeah, bullshit. The Brits let the virus run unchecked until two days ago. And big chunks of the country are ignoring the lockdown order. If it really is that easy to put the virus genie back in the bottle, then it isn't a very deadly virus.
If we were really looking at Spanish flu level death rates, new jersey alone should have 30,000 deaths, on the way to 60,000 total. so far NJ has less than 100.
How do you explain Italy, where coffins are piling up in parking lots and the death rate is ~1000/day? Is that just a normal flu? Anyway, I wasn’t making a point about the validity of the predictions, I was pointing out that the OP says the author of the report is recanting on his original predictions, but he is not doing that at all.
Thanks! did the op read the article? He revised his model based off the restrictions that both nations have put in place. We shouldn't be like the left when it comes to this shit.
Yeah, starting to seem clear that overreaction is the norm at this point. To me the correct answer now is high risk individuals (60+ YO, respiratory issues, compromised immune systems) and those in their households should be allowed to continue to self isolate without fear of losing jobs/etc.
The rest should be allowed to return to normal life over the next 2-3 weeks. Recommend people take measures as if it were a particularly nasty flu situation (which is basically what this is). Frequent hand washing, avoid high risk areas as much as possible, make sure your general health is as good as possible (eat right, get enough sleep, quit smoking, etc.).
Guys...he predicted over 2 million deaths in the US.
Adjusted for population, that's what the Spanish flu would have killed in the US. And that's not taking into account that medical care has improved dramatically in the past 100 years.
So basically this fucktard was saying COVID-19 would have the same impact as the Spanish flu.
Unfortunately for him, reality caught up with his dumbass model. Civilian deaths for the Spanish flu started trickling in around early September 1918. By early October, people were dying in the fucking streets. New York City alone had a total of 30,000 deaths in those two months. Adjusted for population, we would expect to see 50,000 deaths in NYC.
By this time, even with social distancing, NYC should have 25,000 - 30,000 deaths.
NYC is currently around 200 deaths.
Anybody running around saying that he "updated the model" to account for social distancing is fucking brain dead. By week two or three of the Spanish flu, most people were on lockdown, with the exception of the city of Philadelphia.
This was pitched as the new Spanish flu, and it isn't even fucking close. Not remotely in the same ballpark.
I agree with POTUS' 2 week off approach. This is a deadly virus for the elderly, and we needed time to move resources around. Now that we've done that, it's time to get back to work.
This calls for a class action lawsuit against CNN, NBC and all their parent companies. If every American is included in this we can make them go bankrupt and get a nice little payout from it.
Lawsuits. Lots of them. Asap. Bankrupt the pieces of shit in CNN, NBC, msnbc, etc
How do we start a movement? I was just talking to my sister about this. The media must be held accountable for their actions in not only this but all of their fake news and stealth edits/retractions. The people have had enough.
Edit: I guess better phrasing is: Many in my community are furious with the media and want to get involved in holding them accountable. Where can we start?
We need a Department of Justice. Media needs to be charged with sedition because they knowingly and maliciously tried to crash our economy -- a Soros specialty, btw.
The media is running cover for the Dept of Injustice while it keeps itself busy with Stone and Flynn. Anyone heard anything about Durham recently? Wasn't he supposed to be wrapping things up around this time?
Good point. Durham's probably been put on hold with everything else. Maybe permanently. How convenient.
And President Trump reeds to pardon Flynn and Stone ASAP, because the DOJ is beyond corrupt.
What the DOJ can only try one case at a time now? With the $30 billion a year we pay them, they should be able to handle hundreds, even at government efficiency.
No. End of spring.
For some reason June or July pops into my mind when I try to recall when he is supposed to be wrapping things up. Honestly, I would not want him coming out now with bombshells. Let things settle.
Amen.
I dunno, I wish they would round up a bunch of bad guys while the attention is on something else.
And Trish needs to be allowed back on the air
Start with China. There has never been a point in history where more people have been allied against them than right now and it’s about damn time that people woke up to the problems that they have caused
For American made products and those interested in boycotting Chinese made products:
https://www.usalovelist.com/what-does-made-in-usa-label-mean/
https://www.usalovelist.com
What is to stop China from releasing another virus next year and the year after that? Non of these criminals are held accountable. Like a bully, you need to fight back.
They could still send goods as long as they treat them like gas stations in dodgy areas. Define quarantine date for goods with zero people. Let them load the goods off the boat on a quarantined area. Wait the period. Then get the goods. And increase tariffs to pay for it all.
At the voting booth. I'm not being sarcastic, either. In the 2008 crisis the major media companies were given mind boggling sums of federal dollars to prop them up. Start all the movements you want, if the Dems are cutting them bailout checks every time they run out of money, they ain't going anywhere.
Mods can you allow me to upvote this billions and billions of times?
We are not leftists. We only vote once per comment or post.
And the dead don't get to upvote, either!
I'm thinking a class action lawsuit. Small businesses, medium, large, and citizens can easily demonstrate real monetary damages due to media overflowing the situation. It has to be illegal to purposely induce panic and hysteria.
Edit: the lawsuits have to start somewhere. You or your local businesses need to find good attorneys. Maybe the ones that succeeded in getting payouts from CNN for the Covington boys?
Class action is needed.
Calling Tom Fitton!
Seriously, the country really needs some help. Liberals are lawless and are really taking advantage of this manufactured mass hysteria.
Yes let’s ask him? Why doesn’t he post here on Win anyway - miss his posts.
He will come around. Right now he is one of the only people allowed to post on t_d. Keep in mind that although Judicial Watch is a non-profit, he is there to promote its cause and get people to donate. So he is going to spend his time where he can get the most exposure.
How long could it take to copy and paste what you've already written? He doesn't even have to post a different stretched shirt photo here.
This whole thing seems like one big Chinese psy-op
It seemed to me from the beginning that we were under attack by the Chinese govt and that the media was knowingly or unknowingly complicit, but I dont know for sure. I'm more confident that the media is primarily responsible for the economic devastation and can be sued for lots of damages
I wonder if the deep state and chicoms are colluding to pull the strings behind the media. Can't be a coincidence how china gets nothing but positive news coverage and the media won't go after Comey, Page and Strzok.
It seems they are endlessly propped up by Soros bucks and China.
Out of the loop here - whose forecast and what did they predict?
Neil Ferguson of Imperial college London. The article being referenced.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2238578-uk-has-enough-intensive-care-units-for-coronavirus-expert-predicts/
Yep. He went from predicting 500,000 deaths in the UK to 20,000, more than half of whom he now says would have died by the end of the year anyway because are so old/sick. He also claimed there would not be enough ICU beds- now says the hospitals will be fine. Also, just last week thought 18+ months of quarantine would be necessary- now says it will peak and subside within 2 to 3 weeks. This is the guy whose work the media has constantly cited- fueling panic.
Weird how I, not a professional epidemiologist but just a lowly data analyst with access to publicly available historical data, was able to predict essentially the exact same thing way back when the professional worst case scenario imaginers was still saying we were all going to die.
These regularly occurring novel virus outbreaks barely move the needle on all-cause mortality because the majority of deaths are "stolen" from other causes. When more people die of virus A, fewer people die of viruses B through Z.
Okay this was one slight miscalculation but for real climate change gonna kill us all!!! (Unless you give government more money)
"Very soon too. Just 12 years. Excuse me, what's that? Why did I buy a $9 million home on the Atlantic coast if I think the world is going to flood due to global warming? What kind of racist question is that?"
Just be happy you didn't die to net neutrality.
Net Neutrality killed 150 million people per day. Amazing that he beat those odds!
I did. "Net neutrality killed me!"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't US death rate trajectory from COVID-19 Kung Flu still less that the H1N1 death trajectory? So far it looks like COVID-19 will kill less people than H1N1 (swine flu) of 2009-2010 here in the US. Am I wrong?
Little talked about fact, H1N1 is the strain of influenza that caused the much touted "Spanish flu" outbreak of 1918. It's been around at LEAST 100 years, so if you count the entirety of its death toll, then CoV-19 has a LOT of catching up to do.
Just limiting it to the bad flu season of 2009-2010, so far H1N1 is still worse. It's unusually more dangerous to people between the ages of 25-65, while CoV-19 only seems to be really dangerous to the same elderly or chronically ill people that any common cold virus can kill.
Here's the real trick, though. H1N1 wasn't "that bad" either. Around 3.8 MILLION Americans die every year. Pneumonia as a complication from flu or colds is in the top ten causes of death for every age group 0-25 and 65 and up EVERY YEAR. Whenever a specific virus gets famous for killing more than its share, it generally means FEWER people are dying from all the other viruses.
As a result, all-cause mortality barely changes. The odds of you dying from any viral infection are still lower than the odds of you dying in a slip-and-fall accident. Of course the MOST likely cause of death BY FAR is old age, but that doesn't sell the papers.
You could take every person infected with this shit right now, kill them all, and it wouldn't be a blip on the annual mortality rate.
This shit is so overblown it's ridiculous. I don't like Bill Mitchell, but he phrased it correctly: It's a viral pneumonia that the media is making people believe is the black plague.
You're not infected with the socialist mindvirus, is why.
It's really a case of doctors trying to do data analytics... poorly.
It all makes more sense when you remember that 50% of the population the media is broadcasting to is literally clinically retarded. Their message is not for people capable of critical thinking.
And has been wrong on his predictions since Trump was in office, and until late last year he owned up to being wrong.
And people wonder why no one trusts experts anymore.
Expert = someone who gets everything 100% wrong and whose predictions turn out to be the exact opposite of what actually happened
No the Imperial College report always predicted that if drastic “suppression measures” were taken like shutting down social gatherings and nonessential businesses, then the deaths would be limited to the thousands. https://twitter.com/jeremycyoung/status/1239975682643357696?s=21
Most of the country has not taken anywhere near the level of "drastic measures" they suggested- face it, he dramatically overestimated the impact. Even he now admits it. To suggest otherwise is the worst kind of revisionist history. Also, they predicted, even if the most draconian measures were taken to slow the spread, all the ventilators would be in use. Not even close.
He admitted it after he got infected lol.
Source? Did you read the report? Where did you see he admits he overestimated? You realize we haven’t even come close to peaking yet, right?
Take a look at this plot. This is an exponential growth consistently of about 30% per day so far. This is a logarithmic plot. It’s growing quickly. Brace yourself. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-MdH022qBRottbaOV4qYKRHZ-rBC1Ozh/view?fbclid=IwAR27sSanGqVhl28ELCxghfH7AWTINyFzDfQVnLBgcgG_XM4OulT3nxFpYWI
He was drastically wrong and it has little to do with the government response, which has been much slower than what he called for and not nearly as stringent. His estimates, which the media ran with, have put over 3 million Americans out of work. There needs to be accountability for all who pushed this madness. And that does not mean the China Virus is not a serious public health issue- but the only people the media had on tended to be those spreading panic. Scientists that said we were overreacting were not given equal time to make their case. That was wrong.
Someone needs to telling Joe Scarborough that Neil Ferguson updated his estimate. What a fucking TDS moron who has been pushing panic. He just tweeted this. These propagandists need to be shamed and held accountable. https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/1243189627923697665?s=20
Fuck Joe & Joe (Biden and Intern Murderer)
Al franken the rapist has a comment to on there that says the president is crazy, and I'm not kidding, something dumb by Biden just a few lines above.
This is actually big news, like REALLY BIG news that will never see the light of day in the US. I so despise the MSM.
Thank you
Just one "expert" in a long line of "experts" to be absurdly wrong. The very same "elites" who have been making decisions all these years that exposed the world to this pandemic from their free trade agreements to their open borders.
I think it's part of a thread of 3 tweets, starting with this: https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1243160548423991296?s=20
Then click the "Show thread" link at the bottom of the tweet.
The WHO leader I believe.
Silver lining... The US is in a frenzy and this doomsday scenario is all anyone is hearing about. When it turns out to be a fraction of what people were expecting, President Trump is going to look like a hero.
The media will 100%. But every time the media throws their reputation in the paper shredder, more and more Americans realize the media hates you and loves lying.
That's why they have to sabotage any cure, because it would blow up and make Trump look good for solving such a huge crisis.
*Note: I think this virus is a big deal, but I also think it's being abused as another opportunity to attack Trump.
Happy 80th bitch.
There is always somebody predicting doom for the world. You can take your pick every day.
The culprits are the media and the people who direct them
That's ridiculous. They guy's an idiot and gave a shitty opinion (or maybe a smart guy who just happened to get this one thing wrong) and the media took his prediction and ran with it. No reason we should sue him for all he's worth.
It's actually the media and government to blame for believing it and running with it. People make stupid doomsday predictions all the time like Al Gore and other self proclaimed 'experts'. Media should be sued into oblivion for fear mongering and shutting down the economy.
Number of people who will ever be held legally culpable for any of this: ZERO
We need to stop saying that people won't be held accountable and demand that they be held accountable that is the Donald Trump way, 2020!!
I'm with you. I hate seeing "dems get away with it" all the time, or similar statements. It comes off as submission to this bullshit and when others see it they fall in line and just accept it as fact, and ultimately tolerate it. Disgusting.
All of these crooks, not limited to the virus scare, need to be locked up for a long time AT MINIMUM. Many need to be swinging.
He needs to be elected another term and then we will have unlocked Super Saiyan Trump
Fuck off shill. He has limited powers by design.
You got a solution to that problem.
You have this site, and magically you managed to use it without catching fire.
Reddit can keep their bullshit, and you can have a platform virtually identical to the old t_d. So quit your fucking crying.
What can he do?
Newsflash: most people in the real world don’t give a shit about reddit.
I knew this was bullshit from the beginning and I've been going about my life. People on social media have been chastising me for going out and doing things. Fucking moral busybodies
The person he is talking about is British Epidemiologist neil ferguson who predicted world catastrophic death tolls. He has now since changed his position to it being very mild.
Where can I find the correction? Google shows me the initial predictions.
Well of course Google would. Why are you still using it? Use Duck Duck Go.
Trump already knows this. That is why he wants to reopen the economy by Easter. The left want it to drag on for another month or 7. If they are successful in driving his numbers down to the point of him losing, then miraculously the virus is no longer a threat and it was because of proactive governors shutting down their states.
Here's the deal, I don't blame Trump for this, he has to take a threat of a pandemic seriously but I believe this was planned by the Chinese and the globalists to crash our economy. I wouldn't put it past the Chinese to pull other measures before the election like with bonds. I think we've been had but until this is over keep your memory fresh and your anger directed in the right place .
The Chinese and the Democrats 100% are coordinating on this. It's why de blasio told people to go to the Chinese new year celebrations in NY and to fight xenophobia.
This sucks and does hurt, but boy howdy are there a lot of lessons being learned. At some point, a truly terrible disease will come about -- world's full of shitholes.
Silver lining is that this is tremendous practice and we'll be properly ready for the next go around. Since we're not actually all gonna die right now, we will recover bigly.
At least the mortality rate isnt anywhere near what it could be. The scary infectious incubation stage with no symptoms is what terrified the world. That seems extremely man made. I do it every time i play Pandemic because it works. You gotta get your infected rate up then mutate. Duuh.
That part about "proactive" governance being hailed as effective/heroes. That's a big part. Also that 2T to skim off of.
I think Trump's team has probably already come to the conclusion that letting the virus ravage the country and kill 20% of the elderly is better than shutting down all business for 18 months.
Dammit you made go and view your post history. Whew
When 15% of those people were likely to die anyway this year?
Andy Beshear looking like a hero in Kentucky for this. He's really not even doing much other than locking the state down.
Not giving too much revealing info but I'm IT for the state and we've been bending over backwards following the work from home directives. Our VPN system was overloaded early on and had to be massively expanded, desktops encrypted and set up for home use for people who didn't want to use a laptop or set up SSLVPN on their home computer (2 clicks is hard), tons of stuff. And getting an insane amount of praise for it
They'd rather rule a wasteland than be a commoner in paradise.
They'd rather rule a wasteland than work. That's the deal.
serve in heaven < rule in hell - Democrats/MSM 2020
That’s a beautiful line!
My wife’s friend on fb says they know someone who was super healthy and they got it and now they’re on a ventilator and the hospital is full and and and then that all disappears into thin air... a lot of bullshit
Some people will die. Some will point to that as evidence of a crisis. They ignore the fact that thousands and thousands die of flu every year. An average of 25k+ people die of flu yearly in the USA alone. Nobody bats an eye. But somebody screams on the news about it and suddenly everyone loses their minds. Next step: give us your money so we can save you.
This. Thousands of people die EVERY DAY for all sorts of reasons. The trick they are pulling is trying to attribute as many of those as possible to the Chinavirus.
"You said she turned you into a newt!" "...I got better."
17 year old just died of it in Lancaster! It could happen to YOU! No one is safe!.......not even included in the fine print: He was already losing a battle with Leukemia.
The world needs better leaders. Just like Trump says, the doctors will all ask for two years. That's fine of course they are health officials. The economic official probably wants nothing to ever shut down. That's also fine they are the economic official.
A good leader weighs the opinions of all advisors and tries to find a middle ground.
This, 100% this, health advisors will recommend isolation for a year to be safe, they don't know the unintended consequences of such an action. Society is all about compromise of risk managment. We have cars even though car accidents kills tens of thousands each year because the value of the car is worth it. The value of a functioning economy is worth ten thousand deaths but not worth a million, where to draw the line is what grest leaders do, this is the hard calaculus of real politik. Every life is presious but in a nation of 300 million statistically almost any action that affects them all will kill some. So its all about what degree in scale we are acceptable with, as dark as that sounds.
The health officials damn well should know the consequences of such an action. Can you imagine the mental health impact of shutting down a society for a year? Older people will die simply from the isolation, as will those on the edge of offing themselves. Even healthy minded people would be scarred, kids will be for sure. It's unfathomable what health impacts that would cause.
It has never been done before. You could see serious impacts on the cohesiveness of society.
There are two types of globalists, both want power.
The Karen type, they want power to feel useful, and the child rapping baby eating super evil faggots that only want complete and total power.
What you are describing is considered far right. A good comrade listens only to the media. Preferably CNN.
I agree. Except about "middle ground". Leaders find good solutions. A good leader doesn't give a fuck about middle ground. It sounds like I'm being a nit-picky bitch here but IMO it's important that people understand that "middle ground" does not equal solutions. Middle ground is communism. Middle ground is prison. Good solutions are something entirely different. Fuck "middle ground" right in the face.
I was just typing things as I thought. There's no intent to promote communism here. I advocate wholly for finding solutions the American way.
My username has nothing to do with the China party (not that it wouldn't apply there). It's from the СССР or in our alphabet the USSR. I am semi-obsessed with the study of life (and the lack of life) in the Soviet Union and I absolutely abhor communism.
"Middle ground" is a common saying. I understood what you meant; my commentary was not a critique of your words. It was a direct criticism of a culture built on "compromise" and "participation awards".
What about middle earth?
But it's only better than predicted because of all the socialism and oppression! This proves the system works. We're going to have to do this every single time anyone discovers a novel infectious disease anywhere in the future. Thank God the panic mongers were able to save us from all the people trying to preach calm, rational controls. We should probably send even MORE money to globalist, extra-governmental agencies to keep us all safe from ourselves.
At 50+% tax rates, I argue that we're already at $Serfdom.
If you are in an upper tax bracket and live in a high-tax shithole like NY or CA you will easily pay 50% of your income in local, state and fed taxes
You are not alone. Most people are unaware. Also in that list is the payroll tax, which you pay but never see. It's not on your pay stubs or your tax return. If you switch from W2 to 1099 it'll slap you in the face though. 7.5%.
Nobody in the USA has been talking about Neil Ferguson. The bigger negligence has been from the WHO when they bought into China's lies about COVID-19 not being transmittable through person-to-person contact.
It's almost like there was a conspiracy to fuck Trump and the United States and it's never stopped.
Now the new angle is back to Trump is overreacting.
And that it was a low threat to them.
His model has been used by many countries and media during this event. This website, very popular with the media, and the doom and resistance crowd, uses his model. https://www.covidactnow.org
They may be trying to shift to other models, since the UK guy has been lambasted recently.
Death by bunga bunga.
Nope. Bunga Bunga is ass rape.
Ooga booga is with lube.
Yep, you get death by bunga bunga when you choose death instead of bunga bunga
Roo Roo...
While I acknowledge the massive stranglehold the MSM has on America, in my house Ive been optimistic that these lockdown orders won't last very long, and especially not anywhere the lengths the MSM will try and get you to believe.
Why? Because I knew that the odds of this virus being anything close to what they say it might be were slim to none, and at some point the raw data would no longer be open to panic inducing speculation.
Anyone who has ever engaged with me on this I simply redirect them to the numbers the CDC has on every pandemic, including the seasonal flu, and let them make an interpretation for themselves.
Many will still cling to the headlines, but some I've talked to snap out of it and see the situation for what it is. Pretty soon these headlines will start to fade out.
The real question is, which I've heard many people calling for here, is how do we get the public to remember how much they were lied to once this thing blows over? Hopefully we figure that one out quick, because we are running out of time until they find the next thing to latch on to
That's the hardest part, getting people to remember. They have a 3 day memory. If it's not at the top of Google news, Twitter and Reddit, then it doesn't exist.
That said, people tend to remember things more when they cause them pain. That's just how the brain works. A lot of people still remember 2008. Why? Because massive pain was involved. Hopefully the same will be true about this panic scare.
All good points. It will be hard to have people remember how much they were and are lied to by the MSM. One of the MSM's main jobs is to generate confusion and panic
What the media has done is a crime against humanity. The first amendment does not protect deception and deciet.
It's okay, we will be putting them all in graves when this is over. They will pay with their lives.
Almost completely unwarranted too. It's fucking our economy. It's taking our jobs. It's ruining relationships. It's redefining our entire everyday lives and it's a huge load of shit. It completely fucks almost all small businesses, especially in retail. Think about it - these mandated shutdowns for "non-essential" businesses is causing people to shop on Amazon (fuck you, Jeff Bezos, you greedy jackass) instead of purchasing products locally. Wake the fuck up, sheeple!
The guy Clay Travis is talking about -> Neil Ferguson at Imperial College London
Thanks.
Sauce:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2238578-uk-has-enough-intensive-care-units-for-coronavirus-expert-predicts/
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf
This post is exact opposite of what happened.
Market crashed when demand dropped for oil. Oil crashed 30%. Stock markets followed.
Original report from Ferguson showed worst case scenarios if action wasn't taken.
Trump took action. Shut down travel from Europe almost immediately, and then the U.K.
Market was already in freefall. Infections were already starting in New York because de Blasio and Dems encouraged people to underestimate seriousness of the disease. They encourage people to go to Chinatown for Chinese New Years as a fuck you to Trump for the travel ban.
Now Ferguson is saying that with the new restrictions in place, the death toll in U.K. can be held to 20,000.
The market in the U.S. is going up again because Trump and Pence's 15 day plan is working. It's buying time to test hydroxychloroquine and keeping hospitals from being overwhelmed.
It's given Congress the certainty to pass the $2 trillion stimulus and re-open the country in two weeks - with hotspots like New York still being shut down.
The major players in the financial markets knew what was going to happen back in December and January. Do you really think multi-billion dollar banks like JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs would lose billions of dollars based on some professor in the U.K.'s theory without running models themselves?
Or that Trump would go along with it without confirming the models himself with other experts? And using his own common sense?
Think.
What are your thoughts on China taking advantage of the situation (a weakened/distracted West)..
I've always wondered when China was going to instigate a major offensive and disguise it as 'From Russia w/ Love'... but this virus seems to accomplish more than any conventional offensive ever could., A real war would unite the West against the common enemy - but this very sudden problem and an all-too real [communist] solution pre-packaged and ready to go...
I have serious concerns (lol, not concern trolling!) about our ability to survive this unless we All realize what is happening. Covid-19 isn't as much of a threat as the impending police-state that Trump might not be able to keep control of. I trust in God, and Trump, and myself... but the driver in me knows you can't control everyone else on the road, you can only react and expect them to do what they're indicating. Lots of idiots out there trying to turn this into forever change. (Microsoft, Soros+, people like Trudeau and the others.. Deepstate/WHO/China+..)
If this is truly a man made virus test run where they were simply testing the infectious incubation period with just flu symptoms then a real deployment sounds scary.
Yeah people are reacting wrongly to this report. The updated 20k toll is based on policy and enforcement changes that were made, not on incorrect modeling. The original report even said that these measures would likely be necessary for up to 2 months then the concentration of the virus would have dropped low enough to relax the restrictions. Then they said it may become necessary after another month to increase restrictions again as the virus spreads and so on until a vaccine is developed. If the Chloraquine cocktail is proven an effective treatment and better tests are developed and people get tested before they see symptoms, restrictions may not need to be ramped back up because the effective treatment and testing will take their place.
Exactly! Thank you for saving me the time. These forecast changes are absolutely based on the actions taken.
I've always been a little too skittish to enter the stock market but this fake crisis gave me the opportunity I needed to enter and build myself a position. Thanks, Democrats!
Wonderful timing. If you bought near the bottom, you got the deal of a lifetime. Hold onto those shares for a long time.
I tried to buy when the Dow was at 18500 but the broker couldn't process my deposit fast enough so I ended up buying the next day after it jumped 11%. Still pretty good imo.
Not bad! It's nearly impossible to time an exact bottom. As long as you get close.
This whole thing stunk to high heaven the instant it came out.
Worldwide class action law suit
As far as I can tell the forecast changed AFTER accounting for the national lockdown, work from home and strict social distancing.
So.....?
That stuff will end and it will have to end soon because you can't coop a society up for months on end without serious consequences. People will have to get this virus, that is absolutely inevitable. We can only hope to protect the most at risk. How did his forecast change?
He just came out yesterday saying his original estimate of 500k deaths in the UK was wrong and it will be more like 20k deaths, almost all of which will be people that would have died this year anyways.
Ah. Well, I don't think this quarantine will be enough to have changed the figures by that much.
Why do you think Trump is pushing the 15 day plan then?
Because it was needed to buy time. It most probably didn't change the Outlook by as large a factor as this guy seems to be saying, though
America, did we learn anything here?
OMG THE WHOLE CITY IS GOING TO BURN DOWN AND EVERYONE IN IT WILL BE HOMELESS AND DEAD ONCE THIS FIRE OF DEATH CONSUMES YOU ALL!!!!!!!
(someone calls the fire department)
Oh.....uh, the kitchen is just going to have some water damage.......after I accounted for calling 911.
Apparently the UK only started doing social distancing on March 18th, and only started to some lockdowns in parts of the UK (still not a national lockdown apparently) two days ago.
They that takes weeks to show up in data. Plus he said it would be years, now it’s weeks.
Except that Japan did few if any of these things and are skating through the pandemic.
The article :
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2238578-uk-has-enough-intensive-care-units-for-coronavirus-expert-predicts/#ixzz6Ho8zONtP
Along this line
I'm seriously disturbed to see the efforts to prevent people from being able to use the drug combo Trump has flagged as promising by media, by governments and experts Don't get it.
Reopening the economy is a must and I dont think we will see a significant uptick in cases like they are reporting (knock on wood). We will see some unfortunately. However, it wont be as significant. The virus/media has scared enough people that the social distancing will continue to occur, in the sense that people are going to keep their distance are going to be clean freaks and germaphobes to the highest degree. On top of that in April some states will begin to see humid 80 degree weather start coming in to play. Add to that the impact of improving herd immunity, the Hydro Chloriquin treatment, and all the new information coming out......I think its a calculated risk that must be taken.
We already have 80+ in Texas.
Die WuFlu, die!
<3 Yeeeee Haw!!! Don't mess with Texas!
Well, these numbers are before the shutdowns really began, its going to get much worse...atleast the Kennedy center got $25 mil.
2T. That is 2000 million million dollars. America, do you understand how much fucking money we're gonna waste/lose on a bad news report? Do you? 25m on the Kennedy Center is barely a drop in lake superior.
Wasn't Imperial College the same idiots who came up with the inaccurate and made up "hockey stick" global warming were all gonna die graph? Or was that someone else in the UK?
Oh, dear!
2020 stats: Chicago murders: 94 Chicago COVID-19 deaths: 14 One of these pandemics will continue forever, one of these will stop soon.
Am i the only one who sees this as "peak oil" or "climate change" or "N Korea nuclear attack" or "insert idiot panic here"? My whole life, the progressives have been "drive-by shooting" these non-sense fears.
Each time I'm not allowed to say that I firmly doubt it and move on with my life. Each time I have to pay some tithe. The Chinese Virus cost is way too high.
"This man" What man?
Yeah, who? I hate these vague clickbait titles
Neil Ferguson, the British researcher who produced the projection models than sent everybody into panic.
NYC quarantine makes sense, but shutting down the whole country doesn't.
There are numerous people in the CCPMSM that need to be arrested and jailed for this nonsense.
This is all wrong. The report predicted 2M deaths if only mild “mitigation measures” were taken, like social distancing for the elderly. The same report said that if more drastic “suppression measures” were taken, like those that have actually been taken, then the deaths would be limited to the thousands. There is no “he was totally wrong.” The governments followed the advice in the report and now are seeing the predictions play out as expected.
https://twitter.com/jeremycyoung/status/1239975682643357696?s=21
Lol. Yeah, bullshit. The Brits let the virus run unchecked until two days ago. And big chunks of the country are ignoring the lockdown order. If it really is that easy to put the virus genie back in the bottle, then it isn't a very deadly virus.
If we were really looking at Spanish flu level death rates, new jersey alone should have 30,000 deaths, on the way to 60,000 total. so far NJ has less than 100.
So kindly fuck off.
Been saying this for weeks. Thanks for taking the words right out of my mouth.
How do you explain Italy, where coffins are piling up in parking lots and the death rate is ~1000/day? Is that just a normal flu? Anyway, I wasn’t making a point about the validity of the predictions, I was pointing out that the OP says the author of the report is recanting on his original predictions, but he is not doing that at all.
SPEZ: UK is just a week or so behind France. About 3 weeks behind Italy. Just a few days behind the US. Let’s check in and see how things are going there in a few weeks. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-MdH022qBRottbaOV4qYKRHZ-rBC1Ozh/view?fbclid=IwAR27sSanGqVhl28ELCxghfH7AWTINyFzDfQVnLBgcgG_XM4OulT3nxFpYWI
Who's predictions? Who's forecast? What are you talking about?
First tweet in that thread (I just had to click through to get it) -
https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1243160548423991296
Thanks! did the op read the article? He revised his model based off the restrictions that both nations have put in place. We shouldn't be like the left when it comes to this shit.
Now give us your money so we can save you!
Add this to the list of shit the media blew out of proportion to stop trump. We need a stickied list, about now.
Yeah, starting to seem clear that overreaction is the norm at this point. To me the correct answer now is high risk individuals (60+ YO, respiratory issues, compromised immune systems) and those in their households should be allowed to continue to self isolate without fear of losing jobs/etc.
The rest should be allowed to return to normal life over the next 2-3 weeks. Recommend people take measures as if it were a particularly nasty flu situation (which is basically what this is). Frequent hand washing, avoid high risk areas as much as possible, make sure your general health is as good as possible (eat right, get enough sleep, quit smoking, etc.).
I'm sorry, I'm lost. Who is he talking about?
Guys...he predicted over 2 million deaths in the US.
Adjusted for population, that's what the Spanish flu would have killed in the US. And that's not taking into account that medical care has improved dramatically in the past 100 years.
So basically this fucktard was saying COVID-19 would have the same impact as the Spanish flu.
Unfortunately for him, reality caught up with his dumbass model. Civilian deaths for the Spanish flu started trickling in around early September 1918. By early October, people were dying in the fucking streets. New York City alone had a total of 30,000 deaths in those two months. Adjusted for population, we would expect to see 50,000 deaths in NYC.
By this time, even with social distancing, NYC should have 25,000 - 30,000 deaths.
NYC is currently around 200 deaths.
Anybody running around saying that he "updated the model" to account for social distancing is fucking brain dead. By week two or three of the Spanish flu, most people were on lockdown, with the exception of the city of Philadelphia.
This was pitched as the new Spanish flu, and it isn't even fucking close. Not remotely in the same ballpark.
I agree with POTUS' 2 week off approach. This is a deadly virus for the elderly, and we needed time to move resources around. Now that we've done that, it's time to get back to work.
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This calls for a class action lawsuit against CNN, NBC and all their parent companies. If every American is included in this we can make them go bankrupt and get a nice little payout from it.
Didn't know who Clay was until i saw that "Boob" clip on CNN (or MSNBC, can't remember). Dude's great
Who is he referring to?
British researcher who claimed half a million Brits would die of CCP virus and British hospitals would swiftly be overrun.
But muh Climate Change....