Looks like we found the internationalist rat who's scared of losing all the "investments" he's made in America's enemies. Were you one of the ones crying about Trump's trade wars?
The US is the wealthiest country on the planet. We have zero reason to allow foreigners to buy up our properties or own shares in our industries.
Technically, the US is the most in debt country on the planet, something like 31 trillion dollar debt now, not counting unfunded liabilities or whatever they're called?
Also the USA doesnt have huge diamond mines like South Africa for example, by making people only able to invest in their countries, you are taking the right of Americans to invest in diamonds and whatever other minerals are mostly outside of the US.
I seriously cant wrap my head around this proposal. What kind of conservatives begs for more government?..
We’re not asking for more government. We’re asking for America first. Allowing non-citizens to buy up land and property hurts the average America.
Other countries can do whatever they want. You are arguing for the wealthy, not the average American. The average American couldn’t give a fuck about investing in minerals outside of the US.
And how would having a law that says only citizens can own land and property here be more government? Does our government not already set rules for foreigners?
If an American wants to sell their house, eliminating all the world investors would just give him less money for the house. For example, if I wanna sell my house and the most an American offers me is $100k and a foreigner offers me $150k that's $50k in profit that an American lost because of a government rule.
How else would you explain this loss of profit to all Americans selling properties?
Trump owns property outside the USA. Should those countries confiscate it? Should Melania's properties be confiscated as well. At this point I would call this radical nationalism. If you look at this proposal from the govenrment vs free market point of view, im sure you would notice you are asking for more government and less freedom.
You would be taking the freedoms of Americans to diversify and not depend on 1 economy. You would be taking the whole worlds freedom to do that. For what benefit?
What clown rhetoric do you keep saying? I want US citizens to get the benefit of America. US citizens get our free market, non-citizens don’t get to partake.
You realize other countries already do this right now?
First thats not true. American investors own busineses and properties all over the world too. Look up ray Dalio, 25th richest man in the USA is praised in China as an investment guru.
Second wouldnt the benefit of the US citizenship be selling to foreigners that can pay the American higher prices? How would the government limiting the number of buyers help the sellers in any way?
Yes, but none of those countries are going to do that because they're the ones who benefit from our richer economy investing in them in the first place, so what's the point of that question?
Fuck your global free market. Yes I'm asking for more government, just like I'm asking for more government when I say I want our borders enforced and every illegal alien booted from the country.
The benefit of preventing communist faggots from buying up our economy is that we keep our economy out the hands of communist faggots. Not allowing the whole world to mooch off us also means us not being fused with economies we have far less control over. You don't want to "depend on one economy" but you also don't want countries to have actual, independent economies?
OK so with that logic, should the government also ban Americans from buying foreign products? No more Ferraris, tequila, etc.
In Economics 101 they teach the concept of "competitive advantage". Simply put, some countries are better at some things than others. To say that America is #1 is one thing. To say America is #1 in everything so we should ban business with other countries is going too far. Whether you realize it or not, you would hurt the people you're trying to help, much like the minimum wage.
"Government is not the solution to our problems, government IS the problem." - P. Ronald Reagan
"With that logic", then asks a question that doesn't logically connect in the slightest. I'd be cool with banning tequila until Mexico stops being a shithole, though.
I love how far you're moving the goalposts to take the heat off the globalist bullshit you were originally defending.
"Why should we stop malicious Chinese commies from buying up our industries?"
"Why would you want China to stop welcoming our investments in their country and siphoning even more wealth from our economy?"
"Why should we ban business with other countries?"
Yes, by the way, it IS better that we prefer our own industry in all possible areas, even above countries that are more efficient, rather than staying mediocre and leaning on those other countries in perpetuity. The comparative advantage, which I'm guessing you meant, should be exploited when it serves as a means to further increasing American autonomy. I don't give a shit about your international corporation's profits. And no, I don't give a shit about Trump's either. I care about what he does for America.
Reagan was an impotent limp-wrist who gave California back to Mexico. I'll stick with the people who created our country.
Looks like we found the internationalist rat who's scared of losing all the "investments" he's made in America's enemies. Were you one of the ones crying about Trump's trade wars?
The US is the wealthiest country on the planet. We have zero reason to allow foreigners to buy up our properties or own shares in our industries.
Technically, the US is the most in debt country on the planet, something like 31 trillion dollar debt now, not counting unfunded liabilities or whatever they're called?
That's the Monopoly Money the government owes, mostly to itself.
The government does not owe itself the Monopoly Money, because it is owed to the private Federal Reserve.
https://www.thebalance.com/who-owns-the-u-s-national-debt-3306124
Not to itself. The Fed Reserve is NOT the government, but a private institution.
Fed ain't gonna be much use if the government stops pretending the Monopoly money has real value.
Also the USA doesnt have huge diamond mines like South Africa for example, by making people only able to invest in their countries, you are taking the right of Americans to invest in diamonds and whatever other minerals are mostly outside of the US.
I seriously cant wrap my head around this proposal. What kind of conservatives begs for more government?..
We’re not asking for more government. We’re asking for America first. Allowing non-citizens to buy up land and property hurts the average America.
Other countries can do whatever they want. You are arguing for the wealthy, not the average American. The average American couldn’t give a fuck about investing in minerals outside of the US.
And how would having a law that says only citizens can own land and property here be more government? Does our government not already set rules for foreigners?
Sorry friend you are asking for more government.
If an American wants to sell their house, eliminating all the world investors would just give him less money for the house. For example, if I wanna sell my house and the most an American offers me is $100k and a foreigner offers me $150k that's $50k in profit that an American lost because of a government rule.
How else would you explain this loss of profit to all Americans selling properties?
Trump owns property outside the USA. Should those countries confiscate it? Should Melania's properties be confiscated as well. At this point I would call this radical nationalism. If you look at this proposal from the govenrment vs free market point of view, im sure you would notice you are asking for more government and less freedom.
You would be taking the freedoms of Americans to diversify and not depend on 1 economy. You would be taking the whole worlds freedom to do that. For what benefit?
What clown rhetoric do you keep saying? I want US citizens to get the benefit of America. US citizens get our free market, non-citizens don’t get to partake.
You realize other countries already do this right now?
First thats not true. American investors own busineses and properties all over the world too. Look up ray Dalio, 25th richest man in the USA is praised in China as an investment guru.
Second wouldnt the benefit of the US citizenship be selling to foreigners that can pay the American higher prices? How would the government limiting the number of buyers help the sellers in any way?
Yes, but none of those countries are going to do that because they're the ones who benefit from our richer economy investing in them in the first place, so what's the point of that question?
Fuck your global free market. Yes I'm asking for more government, just like I'm asking for more government when I say I want our borders enforced and every illegal alien booted from the country.
The benefit of preventing communist faggots from buying up our economy is that we keep our economy out the hands of communist faggots. Not allowing the whole world to mooch off us also means us not being fused with economies we have far less control over. You don't want to "depend on one economy" but you also don't want countries to have actual, independent economies?
OK so with that logic, should the government also ban Americans from buying foreign products? No more Ferraris, tequila, etc.
In Economics 101 they teach the concept of "competitive advantage". Simply put, some countries are better at some things than others. To say that America is #1 is one thing. To say America is #1 in everything so we should ban business with other countries is going too far. Whether you realize it or not, you would hurt the people you're trying to help, much like the minimum wage.
"Government is not the solution to our problems, government IS the problem." - P. Ronald Reagan
"With that logic", then asks a question that doesn't logically connect in the slightest. I'd be cool with banning tequila until Mexico stops being a shithole, though.
I love how far you're moving the goalposts to take the heat off the globalist bullshit you were originally defending.
"Why should we stop malicious Chinese commies from buying up our industries?"
"Why would you want China to stop welcoming our investments in their country and siphoning even more wealth from our economy?"
"Why should we ban business with other countries?"
Yes, by the way, it IS better that we prefer our own industry in all possible areas, even above countries that are more efficient, rather than staying mediocre and leaning on those other countries in perpetuity. The comparative advantage, which I'm guessing you meant, should be exploited when it serves as a means to further increasing American autonomy. I don't give a shit about your international corporation's profits. And no, I don't give a shit about Trump's either. I care about what he does for America.
Reagan was an impotent limp-wrist who gave California back to Mexico. I'll stick with the people who created our country.