Unfortunately there are about 6 counties in NJ with a lot of people who commute into NYC and as a result those counties now all have high infection rates. Same goes for counties in NY and CT.
The entire NYC metro area needs to be quarantined, but I agree, it should not be entire states.
I live in upstate NY we have a few counties with 100+ cases but most of the counties with farm land such as my own have less than 6. So I hope we don't get quarantined because of the shithole city. Would be the perfect time to divide NYS into autonomous regions
Most of the Country geographically speaking has Counties with 0 infections as the largest number. The second highest category is Counties with 1-4 infected people.
Give them a chance to get better! Realize how selfish and irresponsible you're being! NY State is HUGE, what is so important about leaving that it's worth spreading it to areas that literally have 0 infections?
Same goes for NJ. Not huge obviously, but still lots of really cool and beautiful places, with wonderful variety. Lock it down at the State border. This is not forever. HCQ has been donated by the millions, domestic production in WV has restarted and is scheduled to ship by late April.
We can turn this thing around, beat it, and get medicine to everybody that makes it no worse than a bad flu for 6 days. No dying, not even any side effects. Maybe we even develop herd immunity?
NY got most of the initial millions of doses of HCQ. Obviously Cuomo is hoarding it rather than using it. Just like ventilators. Keep your infections there! It'll be longer before us in rural areas of the Country have any substantial supply of HCQ.
Have a little respect for the rest of the Country!
It would make more sense to quarantine the hot zones like New York metro and start opening the rest of the country for business. I would even be in favor of increased aid for the areas that have to be quarantined if that allows the rest of the country to return to a degree of normalcy.
There's a huge hot spot in Ocean County NJ. One town with 236 cases as of yesterday. The people there will not stop congregating in large groups, they travel from NJ to NY like most people visit nearby towns. Surrounding towns are suffering because of these morons. Quarantine them, and the number of new cases will fall dramatically.
This is correct. This area is all Hasidic Jews. I have been unable to find a good article online to show this, maybe somebody can help. When I search, I just find articles about anti-semetism being prevalent. But talking to friends there, they say it is all because of the Orthodox Jews and their practices and disregard for avoiding gatherings.
Same with Kiryas Joel/Palm Tree NY. This is a map of Orange County, NY case totals as of yesterday. Notice Palm Tree, a town that is approximately 1 sq mile with a population of 35,000 people. I live in a neighboring town, the people in KJ (Palm Tree) are the same as the people causing the problem in Lakewood, NJ. I can 100000% vouch for members of these communities (as well as Monsey, New Square, Bloomingburg, and Williamsburg and Crown Hts Brooklyn) being morons, and quite frankly, assholes in most cases. This is something you have to see in person to truly believe, but these communities and their upper leadership of rabbis are some of the most corrupt organizations to ever exist, easily giving the Dems a run for their money. In KJ, the people vote according to who their top rabbi chooses. Therefore, in order to get 35,000 votes in Orange County, politicians often kiss the ass of KJ (and the other communities mentioned) because if they remain in good graces, there is a massive voter bloc to pay them off. If you oppose them for any reason, you are automatically anti-Semitic whether you mentioned religion or not. Here is an example of this in action, their town wanted to annex 500 acres from a regular town a few years ago, the locals STRONGLY opposed it, there were bills worked on by the NY legislature to control the annexation process, and Cuomo vetoed them, surprisingly a few days later, $250K landed in his campaign account. In fact, the OC NY executive has been pushing for a quarantine of KJ since last week. King Andy hasn't even mentioned it.
There is a lot to see here, if you are interested here are a few more articles describing this cult and their DEEP corruption:
How are you going to do it less than the whole State? And people in NJ commute to the city all the way from the Delaware water gap. You can make the trip on I-80 in about 45 minutes. CT maybe has less long distance commuting, but again how do you lock it down less than the whole State? Practical solutions please.
The list of quarantinable diseases is contained in an Executive Order of the President and includes cholera, diphtheria, infectious tuberculosis, plague, smallpox, yellow fever, viral hemorrhagic fevers(such as Marburg, Ebola, and Congo-Crimean), and severe acute respiratory syndromes.
Fuck that. Quarantine the State borders. Can't separate the tri-state metro area, it's all basically NYC.
I know the rural areas of NJ well. I sympathize, but there's simply no other way of doing it. Lock it down. Many live in those areas and commute to the city. Equally impossible to stop the spread throughout CT. Locking down its border to RI has apparently already started. Look at the numbers for MA and obviously they've made no attempt to do this at their border with CT. Will it spread just as bad through VT NH and ME? Hopefully the low population density means no. Hope is not a strategy.
It's not cruel and unusual punishment to be confined within NJ State lines. Lots of area to enjoy! Have a heart. The rest of the Country needs you to be responsible. Spring breakers from your area have already brought it to FL, and from there it made it to my County in WI. We have 30+ cases in my County, whereas most WI Counties are still 0. The second most number of cases is WI Counties with 1-4.
These numbers hold true from here all the way to the left coast. Just a few population centers that have more. For example Iowa has 0 dead. 6 Counties with 5 or more infected people.
Stop spreading it! Give us time to get these people better. Let's beat this, please.
Sure. And I have no idea how many from there commute into the metro Philly area. Surely allowances will be made for interstate commuters, but that's also a major vector for spreading this highly contagious disease.
Locking down State lines is the only sensible thing to do. There's no other way to contain the Nation's #1 hotspot which still has 1/2 the cases in the whole Country.
I dont live in NYC or JC or any of the urban areas. unless this is selective to just those areas and not the whole state, no.
Unfortunately there are about 6 counties in NJ with a lot of people who commute into NYC and as a result those counties now all have high infection rates. Same goes for counties in NY and CT.
The entire NYC metro area needs to be quarantined, but I agree, it should not be entire states.
Really hoping this does not impact entire states.
I live in upstate NY we have a few counties with 100+ cases but most of the counties with farm land such as my own have less than 6. So I hope we don't get quarantined because of the shithole city. Would be the perfect time to divide NYS into autonomous regions
Most of the Country geographically speaking has Counties with 0 infections as the largest number. The second highest category is Counties with 1-4 infected people.
Give them a chance to get better! Realize how selfish and irresponsible you're being! NY State is HUGE, what is so important about leaving that it's worth spreading it to areas that literally have 0 infections?
Same goes for NJ. Not huge obviously, but still lots of really cool and beautiful places, with wonderful variety. Lock it down at the State border. This is not forever. HCQ has been donated by the millions, domestic production in WV has restarted and is scheduled to ship by late April.
We can turn this thing around, beat it, and get medicine to everybody that makes it no worse than a bad flu for 6 days. No dying, not even any side effects. Maybe we even develop herd immunity?
NY got most of the initial millions of doses of HCQ. Obviously Cuomo is hoarding it rather than using it. Just like ventilators. Keep your infections there! It'll be longer before us in rural areas of the Country have any substantial supply of HCQ.
Have a little respect for the rest of the Country!
One note faggot.
It would make more sense to quarantine the hot zones like New York metro and start opening the rest of the country for business. I would even be in favor of increased aid for the areas that have to be quarantined if that allows the rest of the country to return to a degree of normalcy.
There's a huge hot spot in Ocean County NJ. One town with 236 cases as of yesterday. The people there will not stop congregating in large groups, they travel from NJ to NY like most people visit nearby towns. Surrounding towns are suffering because of these morons. Quarantine them, and the number of new cases will fall dramatically.
This is correct. This area is all Hasidic Jews. I have been unable to find a good article online to show this, maybe somebody can help. When I search, I just find articles about anti-semetism being prevalent. But talking to friends there, they say it is all because of the Orthodox Jews and their practices and disregard for avoiding gatherings.
DeSantis had to order a quarantine of people traveling down from NY, NJ and CT for 14 days in Florida to keep it from blowing up in his state.
Same with Kiryas Joel/Palm Tree NY. This is a map of Orange County, NY case totals as of yesterday. Notice Palm Tree, a town that is approximately 1 sq mile with a population of 35,000 people. I live in a neighboring town, the people in KJ (Palm Tree) are the same as the people causing the problem in Lakewood, NJ. I can 100000% vouch for members of these communities (as well as Monsey, New Square, Bloomingburg, and Williamsburg and Crown Hts Brooklyn) being morons, and quite frankly, assholes in most cases. This is something you have to see in person to truly believe, but these communities and their upper leadership of rabbis are some of the most corrupt organizations to ever exist, easily giving the Dems a run for their money. In KJ, the people vote according to who their top rabbi chooses. Therefore, in order to get 35,000 votes in Orange County, politicians often kiss the ass of KJ (and the other communities mentioned) because if they remain in good graces, there is a massive voter bloc to pay them off. If you oppose them for any reason, you are automatically anti-Semitic whether you mentioned religion or not. Here is an example of this in action, their town wanted to annex 500 acres from a regular town a few years ago, the locals STRONGLY opposed it, there were bills worked on by the NY legislature to control the annexation process, and Cuomo vetoed them, surprisingly a few days later, $250K landed in his campaign account. In fact, the OC NY executive has been pushing for a quarantine of KJ since last week. King Andy hasn't even mentioned it.
There is a lot to see here, if you are interested here are a few more articles describing this cult and their DEEP corruption:
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/534/a-not-so-simple-majority (NPR, but good in this case)
https://archive.is/DcGnW
https://archive.is/NGIBp (NYT, but close to accurate)
https://archive.is/mOCIA (")
https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/jta/hosts-of-at-least-jewish-weddings-arrested-in-lakewood-n/article_0314981d-fc87-5853-bbad-41a1c2842c2f.html
I'm familiar with Ocean County. Obviously it's not LBI since there's no Hasidic Jewish community there. What town?
From CT. Fairfield county is not representative of the rest of CT. Although I have seen a lot more NY plates on the highways recently.
"Fairfield county is not representative of the rest of CT."
From CT as well......Amen to that!
How are you going to do it less than the whole State? And people in NJ commute to the city all the way from the Delaware water gap. You can make the trip on I-80 in about 45 minutes. CT maybe has less long distance commuting, but again how do you lock it down less than the whole State? Practical solutions please.
He's saying they can't quarantine a specific region within the state, only the entire states themselves.
That's not what I heard an hour ago. Portions of NJ & Connecticut.
I think OP is saying that Trump wouldn't be able to quarantine "only NYC" even if he wanted to; he can only quarantine whole states at a time.
This is a national emergency
We can send Snake Plissken in with the Trump pills
You obviously have NO idea what South Jersey looks like, south of Philadelphia. Rural, farmland. And VERY few cases.
Is that you Cuomo?
Trump can't quarantine. He can only impose directives to keep us in state.
https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/historyquarantine.html
Fuck that. Quarantine the State borders. Can't separate the tri-state metro area, it's all basically NYC.
I know the rural areas of NJ well. I sympathize, but there's simply no other way of doing it. Lock it down. Many live in those areas and commute to the city. Equally impossible to stop the spread throughout CT. Locking down its border to RI has apparently already started. Look at the numbers for MA and obviously they've made no attempt to do this at their border with CT. Will it spread just as bad through VT NH and ME? Hopefully the low population density means no. Hope is not a strategy.
It's not cruel and unusual punishment to be confined within NJ State lines. Lots of area to enjoy! Have a heart. The rest of the Country needs you to be responsible. Spring breakers from your area have already brought it to FL, and from there it made it to my County in WI. We have 30+ cases in my County, whereas most WI Counties are still 0. The second most number of cases is WI Counties with 1-4.
These numbers hold true from here all the way to the left coast. Just a few population centers that have more. For example Iowa has 0 dead. 6 Counties with 5 or more infected people.
Stop spreading it! Give us time to get these people better. Let's beat this, please.
No one is commuting from Cumberland or Salem Counties into NYC to work. We're south of Philadelphia.
Sure. And I have no idea how many from there commute into the metro Philly area. Surely allowances will be made for interstate commuters, but that's also a major vector for spreading this highly contagious disease.
Locking down State lines is the only sensible thing to do. There's no other way to contain the Nation's #1 hotspot which still has 1/2 the cases in the whole Country.