None of this is constitutional. I don’t give a shit, this is America. Imagine if the colonists just stayed inside because people might die? That should have just surrendered to Germany in WW2 it would have saved lives.
Freedom isn’t free you pussies, every liberty you give up today is gone forever. Have fun explaining to your kids when Mark Zuckerberg is telling them when and how often they’re allowed to play with their friends.
Rights can be suspended for a definite period of time with habeas corpus.
Did the colonists stay inside because of the threat of things like yellow fever and the other very real contagions that swept through cities regularly? No. Without refrigeration, modern vaccines, and remote delivery, people would die if kept inside. Instead, they banned people from coming in and from leaving. There is precedent.
You may not like it and it leads down the slippery slope, but yes you can be forcibly quarantined. It's in the same vein as national security.
Because the health of a nation is national security. Keep the citiots in the cities and let the rest of us form herd immunity, take chloroquine as a prophylactic, and get this economy going again.
NYC can catch up to the rest of us when it burns out. Just like yellow fever in the colonial period.
You know they’re talking about may or June to start opening back up right? How many people are gonna sit there with no income or food for 2 more months? The shit show hasn’t even started yet.
The question/comment regarded constitutionality. The point is, incoming riots, chaos, etc., the quarantine would be constitutional.
In terms of the incoming chaos you mentioned, I agree with you entirely; however, that is a practical matter to be considered along with constitutionality. In fact the practice model was already tried in New Rochelle with the Guard. The government is always 2 to 3 steps ahead of our civil liberties.
The right to peacefully assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Does the first amendment invalidate all public health laws? Interesting topic. I'll have to delve deeper into this when I have time.
Powers must be explicitly granted to the government; unlike almost every country in the world, we're running a whitelist, not a blacklist, at least in theory.
You could end up killing someone by not knowing you’re carrying the virus and spreading it to a person who could have a critical reaction. Most likely somebody you’re close to.
If you’re fine living with that then nobody is stopping you from doing what you want, just keep in mind the longer you do that then the longer this plays out for all of us.
This applies to every day life. You can accidentally kill someone a million different ways, you don’t sacrifice your job and ability to feed your family over it
None of this is constitutional. I don’t give a shit, this is America. Imagine if the colonists just stayed inside because people might die? That should have just surrendered to Germany in WW2 it would have saved lives.
Freedom isn’t free you pussies, every liberty you give up today is gone forever. Have fun explaining to your kids when Mark Zuckerberg is telling them when and how often they’re allowed to play with their friends.
Rights can be suspended for a definite period of time with habeas corpus.
Did the colonists stay inside because of the threat of things like yellow fever and the other very real contagions that swept through cities regularly? No. Without refrigeration, modern vaccines, and remote delivery, people would die if kept inside. Instead, they banned people from coming in and from leaving. There is precedent.
You may not like it and it leads down the slippery slope, but yes you can be forcibly quarantined. It's in the same vein as national security.
Because the health of a nation is national security. Keep the citiots in the cities and let the rest of us form herd immunity, take chloroquine as a prophylactic, and get this economy going again.
NYC can catch up to the rest of us when it burns out. Just like yellow fever in the colonial period.
You know they’re talking about may or June to start opening back up right? How many people are gonna sit there with no income or food for 2 more months? The shit show hasn’t even started yet.
The question/comment regarded constitutionality. The point is, incoming riots, chaos, etc., the quarantine would be constitutional.
In terms of the incoming chaos you mentioned, I agree with you entirely; however, that is a practical matter to be considered along with constitutionality. In fact the practice model was already tried in New Rochelle with the Guard. The government is always 2 to 3 steps ahead of our civil liberties.
Quarantines are unconstitutional? Can you point me to the relevant part where this is illegal?
You have the right to free assembly. Government is forcing people to not leave home.
The right to peacefully assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Does the first amendment invalidate all public health laws? Interesting topic. I'll have to delve deeper into this when I have time.
Which part of the constitution covers forced quarantine?
The legality of public health laws are derived from Article I.
Powers must be explicitly granted to the government; unlike almost every country in the world, we're running a whitelist, not a blacklist, at least in theory.
You could end up killing someone by not knowing you’re carrying the virus and spreading it to a person who could have a critical reaction. Most likely somebody you’re close to.
If you’re fine living with that then nobody is stopping you from doing what you want, just keep in mind the longer you do that then the longer this plays out for all of us.
This applies to every day life. You can accidentally kill someone a million different ways, you don’t sacrifice your job and ability to feed your family over it
Given it’s no worse than the flu I’m fine going back to normal life right now
Bad argument.