Wrong. It learns that doing bad things AND getting caught results in punishment from YOU. It does not imply that the behavior in itself is wrong or bad. It just means they know YOU don't like knowing about it. They will also grow to distrust you in regards to telling you about their problems or if they did something bad, knowing that you have an affinity for violence - so it's only "good news or no news." And when shit's on fire, they'll maybe just shut up.
I am speculating though, I don't know the extent to which you fail to be a good father and are proud of it. But I will not stand by idle listening to how it's a good practice in general.
look how much mental gymnastics you have to do to try and turn this around
Not really. I presented a lot of arguments. Your argument is the rule of terror. I wonder how that manifests itself politically...
I bet it's fun to be your child navigating through emotional landmines around you. Also when they become teenagers, they might go full punk mode in order to rebel against you. Will you beat the shit out of them too when they are 16 and oppose your regime? Or will you pride yourself when they leave early on in order to escape from you, thinking you were any good father? But I am just speculating.
when they have the mental capabilities of a dog, raising them like a dog is the way to go. when they grow up and CAN be reasoned with, you can use that instead
I really question your ability to assess when people can be "reasoned with." Because that sounds like an euphemism for "obeying you unconditionally." Apparently because I severely disagree with you, I can't be reasoned with either, right? If any of your children opposed you like I do, you'd beat the shit- sorry, "spanked" them, right?
as opposed to your argument which is no rule at all
Wrong. See? You just revealed that 1. you don't understand my points, 2. you think that violence is the only solution.
The method I advocate for is to negotiate, to teach ethics, to teach reciprocity, to lead by example. If your child messes up, make the consequence the correction of it if possible (or the cancellation of an event in case he/she doesn't behave). If he/she refuses to comply, take away something they want or need as long as they refuse - you are not only stronger, but you are also the one providing food, shelter and items, and as such you can also deprive them of these.
There are so many things you can do before you escalate to violent behavior.
And these deranged leftists were mostly raised by dysfunctional, abusive, reckless people - like single mothers. They've got shown NO boundaries at all, were left to their own devises in terrible public education systems. Or just plain parents who actually don't give a shit about their children and just want child support money.
But most of these loonies come from literal government mandated indoctrination. If you have a relationship based on trust, you can prevent that from happening as well. Spanking does not serve you in this regard, and it's more likely to cause other dysfunctions and a hatred towards you. They will never forget how you treated them and they will punish or reward you later in life for it once your control over them fades.
considering i can't spank you over the internet
Sure I wouldn't have to fear anything, given that your idea of "spanking" is well-meant and coming from a place of love, right? Don't worry, I don't fear anyone.
Wrong. It learns that doing bad things AND getting caught results in punishment from YOU. It does not imply that the behavior in itself is wrong or bad. It just means they know YOU don't like knowing about it. They will also grow to distrust you in regards to telling you about their problems or if they did something bad, knowing that you have an affinity for violence - so it's only "good news or no news." And when shit's on fire, they'll maybe just shut up.
I am speculating though, I don't know the extent to which you fail to be a good father and are proud of it. But I will not stand by idle listening to how it's a good practice in general.
So you raise your children like your dog?
Not really. I presented a lot of arguments. Your argument is the rule of terror. I wonder how that manifests itself politically...
I bet it's fun to be your child navigating through emotional landmines around you. Also when they become teenagers, they might go full punk mode in order to rebel against you. Will you beat the shit out of them too when they are 16 and oppose your regime? Or will you pride yourself when they leave early on in order to escape from you, thinking you were any good father? But I am just speculating.
I really question your ability to assess when people can be "reasoned with." Because that sounds like an euphemism for "obeying you unconditionally." Apparently because I severely disagree with you, I can't be reasoned with either, right? If any of your children opposed you like I do, you'd beat the shit- sorry, "spanked" them, right?
Wrong. See? You just revealed that 1. you don't understand my points, 2. you think that violence is the only solution.
The method I advocate for is to negotiate, to teach ethics, to teach reciprocity, to lead by example. If your child messes up, make the consequence the correction of it if possible (or the cancellation of an event in case he/she doesn't behave). If he/she refuses to comply, take away something they want or need as long as they refuse - you are not only stronger, but you are also the one providing food, shelter and items, and as such you can also deprive them of these.
There are so many things you can do before you escalate to violent behavior.
And these deranged leftists were mostly raised by dysfunctional, abusive, reckless people - like single mothers. They've got shown NO boundaries at all, were left to their own devises in terrible public education systems. Or just plain parents who actually don't give a shit about their children and just want child support money.
But most of these loonies come from literal government mandated indoctrination. If you have a relationship based on trust, you can prevent that from happening as well. Spanking does not serve you in this regard, and it's more likely to cause other dysfunctions and a hatred towards you. They will never forget how you treated them and they will punish or reward you later in life for it once your control over them fades.
Sure I wouldn't have to fear anything, given that your idea of "spanking" is well-meant and coming from a place of love, right? Don't worry, I don't fear anyone.