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Yucky 83 points ago +84 / -1

This. No more travel at all from China.

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taavofficial 51 points ago +52 / -1

As a Chinese American this whole situation is heartbreaking. Us Chinese people truly wish for the country to succeed, but just not under the communist party. It was once prosperous when it was ruled by the nationalist party. Basically the modern day Japan is what China was supposed to be.

All that being said, if there were war between the US and China, I'd enlist in the US armed forces just to contribute to taking down the communist party.

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DebunkTheLeft [S] 29 points ago +29 / -0

I'm sure a substantial portion of the people in China think the exact same thing.

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taavofficial 22 points ago +25 / -3

They absolutely do. My whole family dreads going to China, but we are morally obligated to go there because we have a good amount of family remaining there.

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mintscape 20 points ago +20 / -0

Not in Australia, here they form their own enclaves and spent the last month shipping our medical equipment back to China.

Some are good people but many here in Australia have their allegiance to the CCP.

We can try and sugar coat to not appear "racist" but you guys have a load of Chinese spies in America too. Be careful.

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americathegr888 7 points ago +7 / -0

Not that much different in the US to be honest, because 90% of them here vote left for life.

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MAUSGA 2 points ago +2 / -0

Definitely a huge problem here in Aus. I'm quite certain anyone who isn't a firm ally of the CCP doesn't get permission to leave China in the first place.

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ChuckedBeef 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's not the people of China, it's the government... although the culture of eating bats and dogs and cats has to end as well.

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Yucky 1 point ago +1 / -0

Good points, but please understand that we cannot, and should not, fit the population of 1.3 billion Chinese into our country of a measly 330M. So we might as well get started now.

Admitting Chinese travelers cost us $2T up front, thousands dead, and uknown costs down the road, simply so we could be considered diverse, global, and cosmopolitan. Ask yourself if it's worth continuing to do while they keep their wet markets open?

How much are you willing to pay for diversity? How many more trillions is it worth?

These are tough questions that all people, regardless of ethnic ancestry, need to bluntly confront, answer and take policy action on.

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Necrovoter 11 points ago +11 / -0

Senator Tom Cotton thinks it likely there was an accidental release

It was about as accidental as Jeffrey Epstein's death. I would wager that China planned on the virus as a weapon, and wanted to test it for effectiveness first. They were likely hoping it would die out fairly quickly and thus be suitable to drop in whatever areas they chose.

How would they accomplish this? A rapidly mutating virus which became less infective and less deadly with each mutation. Seed a few areas with first generation virus and it kills a lot of people. Seed it with 5th or 12th generation virus and it isn't so bad.

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Sandworm 21 points ago +21 / -0

In 2015, that same lab published research on their hybrid virus they made from a bat coronavirus and a SARS virus that had been adapted to infect mice.

Less than five years later, a new novel coronavirus starts spreading throughout the world with the epicenter believed to be within spitting distance (relatively speaking) from this lab.

It is reasonable to investigate the possible origins being from this lab in some way.

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AlohaChris 9 points ago +9 / -0

Yes. If the U.S. had a novel virus outbreak, and it happened in Minnesota or Chicago, I’d think it occurred naturally.

If the outbreak is centered around the United States Army Research Institute on Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) in Frederick, Maryland? Yeah, I’m gonna go with weapon or containment failure at that lab.

International bioweapons law does not prohibit “non-lethal” bioweapon research.

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residue69 4 points ago +6 / -2

Are you sure it's not 20 miles away? How far away is it in kilometers?

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AlohaChris 5 points ago +5 / -0

Exactly. COVID19 (SARS-CoV2) Has a spike protein and other features that are derived from artificial selection and did not evolve naturally. Virologist’s have stated that it looks like the Chinese were attempting to create a SARS vaccine and either had bad containment protocols or rushed to human trials too quickly.

Dr. Francis Boyle, who Co-wrote the U.S. law and protocols around the handling biological weapons testing thinks COVID19 was a bioweapon research project that broke containment.

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FormerGraveheart 5 points ago +6 / -1

But even if this one didn't, many other virus outbreaks have come from such markets, and frequently too. They should be banned.

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Rugar22 1 point ago +1 / -0

We should still push for a free Hong Kong though. Watch the Chinese economy suffer even more when they lose a big chunk of their market.

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Geehod_jimmy 0 points ago +1 / -1

Not even big T can make that work.

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Yucky 1 point ago +1 / -0

??? Chinese shill.