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posted ago by Dereliction ago by Dereliction +142 / -0

Concern trolls and agitators are trying to spread the idea that Fauci and Brix are somehow frauds with their mortality predictions. A prime example is u/RlzJohnnyM with his recent post:

https://thedonald.win/p/FMOC1SP2/eli5-if-the-apex-is-in-2-weeks-h/c/

What they aren't telling you is that a flattened curve does not recede or reach maximum casualties in two more weeks. Instead, it continues on for months at the newly flattened but lower and more manageable mortality rate. This elongated but flattened curve could then sums the total deaths to up to 200,000.

The contrast would be a massive, spiking apex curve with enormous casualties in a short time period, overwhelming the system and causing a greater loss of life. This is obviously less preferable than a flattened and more controlled crisis.

TLDR: Deport the idiot concern trolls.

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Razeontherock 4 points ago +4 / -0

I think a more tactful approach is needed, thusly:

"look bitch, here's the facts, then I have work to do. You're recording it, play it back to make sure you get it right."

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AngelMark 8 points ago +13 / -5

It's a cold virus that can mutate into pneumonia. There are hundreds of viruses out there anyone can catch at any time. Hell my 47 year old heathy cousin caught necrotizing fasciitis, the flesh eating bacteria on equipment at a gym on Sunday night. He started feeling sick wed. He was dead by Saturday at 2pm! Left 2 babies and a 42 year old wife. No gurantees!

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highenergywinning 8 points ago +9 / -1

Jesus thats fucking awful. Sorry for your loss pede

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Dereliction [S] 5 points ago +7 / -2

That's terrible. Sorry for your loss, AngelMark.

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Razeontherock 3 points ago +3 / -0

The mechanism by which Wuflu can kill people can cause a miserable and terrifying death without any bacterial infection. I'm highly susceptible to that if I catch it so I've read up on those details quite a bit.

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PainCakes 2 points ago +2 / -0

The other benefit to Azithromycin is that it inhibits RNA synthesis in the target organism as its mechanism of action (macrolide antibiotic). Covid is an RNA virus so I suspect that plays a role.

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Razeontherock 2 points ago +2 / -0

You're still missing the primary mechanism of death, although all the others mentioned are true:

at the same time as the lungs fill up with bodily fluids /blood, the alveoli have thickened to the point they are no longer gas permeable. No matter how much you breathe, 02 doesn't enter the bloodstream. Neither do waste gases pass from the bloodstream to the lungs to be eliminated by exhaling.

This doesn't happen like flipping a light switch, but is a long and painful process. Being on a ventilator does nothing to directly address this condition, which is why so many die in an ICU. The ventilator itself which has been getting so much attention is not the main shortage, it's the pulmonary therapist. That person will be struggling right along with their patient for every breath, and their knowledge and skill is the biggest variable in outcome. Death can take 30 days of this, which is why ICU beds and ventilators get filled. Those that survive will have permanent lung damage and likely damage to other organs too, in which case they're not likely to survive for 2 years.

No respiratory therapist is going to continue functioning at their best working under these conditions. Long term effects of trauma are another factor no one is considering.

We'll soon have 20x more doses of HCQ than we need to give a full course to everyone infected. It's been donated to US and is on the way. That actually saves lives (in conjunction with zinc and z pack) prevents lung damage, keeps you from needing a ventilator and in almost every case keeps people out of the hospital. That's how to flatten the curve! And turn the corner on this.

And hopefully get everyone back to work responsibly, and soon. I've done the numbers and based on pills of .5 g in order to get everyone in the US a supply we need 5 billion. We could cut that down to 2 billion by not giving any to people in flyover States in Counties with 0 people tested positive, and maybe have 9 pills for everyone else. That would be enough to try it for preventative use and increase the dose if you get it anyway. Then if you need to, go to the Dr get z pack and maybe a little more HCQ.

By May 1 we won't have 1 billion. We really need to use the incoming supply aggressively to get everyone virus-free! We can't afford to repeat the mistake of hoarding it like Cuomo did with the first 9 million donated doses.

Now after those gory details you feel much better about having been vaccinated! All the best to you and yours, through this very strange situation ...

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Razeontherock 2 points ago +2 / -0

AngelMark, holy cow! Valahr Margulis or what?

I'm sorry for your loss. Life is precious. People that are alive are amazing. This Country would do well to get back to showing more respect.

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catbertz 1 point ago +2 / -1

True reality. There's plenty of monsters out there ready to eat us. I remember watching a story about some young woman swimming in a popular cove of some lake with maybe 100 other people. She was the only one to catch some crazy brain amoeba that killed her.

This isn't her story, but it's the same amoeba:

https://www.webmd.com/brain/news/20160714/is-swimming-safe-in-areas-with-the-freshwater-brain-eating-amoeba#1

"The fatality rate is roughly 97 percent..."

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SD_Pede 7 points ago +8 / -1

100% guaranteed infiltrators from t_D who wanted us banned followed us here.

It's just a matter of being able to recognize them.

They are mean, insulting, and anti-Trump. Of course they are. They come from /politics.

Just pay attention to the posts that look like they came from /politics and you'll know who they are.

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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 5 points ago +5 / -0

I can smell them through the screen. They smell like fear and spoiled beef.

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Razeontherock 3 points ago +3 / -0

Would be better if they smelled like napalm

Badoom-ching!

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CoVfefe-19 6 points ago +9 / -3

Eeaaagghh differing opinions!!

*insert Trump arm flapping gif

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Dereliction [S] 3 points ago +5 / -2

Misrepresenting how deaths are spread across the flattened curve isn't an opinion.

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Razeontherock 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thank you for this explanation. I saw some clickbait about this in my feed and I just couldn't bring myself to wade through their garbage.

Truth is good stuff! In Jesus' words what you have done here is "given me a cup of cold water." The promise attached is that you won't lose your reward in heaven. It's ok if you don't believe. Your action was significant. MAGA!

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Dereliction [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

MAGA!

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Dereliction [S] -2 points ago +8 / -10

Great counter-argument. Troll.

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Dereliction [S] -3 points ago +5 / -8

Well someone is having a meltdown! So salty!

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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 3 points ago +3 / -0

Truly a load that should've been swallowed. In the immortal words of the gunny, "best part of him ran down the crack of momma's ass and wound up a brown stain on the mattress!"

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Bramble 3 points ago +3 / -0

In 2 weeks we'll be over this shit because the Trump pills work.

Ill check back April 13.

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Razeontherock 3 points ago +3 / -0

We'd be over it already because Trump pills work, except D Governors deny infected people medicine that both prevents infection and cures, while the infection is spreading around the Country like wildfire.

We can't afford to let them hoard the 31 million doses that were just donated; they were donated to help people.

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uvontheterrible -2 points ago +4 / -6

Well said.