I don't mind if citizens of a state like Oregon want to take the risk of reopening against the President's advice. The flip side is that if things get out of control, they should not receive additional help from other states.
I'd like to see these videos of body-laden convoys.
We already know the economy is in the shitter. It's apples to oranges. The economy is trashed BECAUSE of government overreach, not because of -
Massive deaths
Massive hospitalizations
Your question is a red herring. "How many deaths?!" This is just rank hyperbole. And a logical fallacy. An appeal to emotion, with an unsubstantiated, exaggerated claim, isn't an argument.
CLAIMS - Projections of 2 MILLION dead. Now? Claimed maybe 80,000... this after claims of 250,000. Claim? Dates ALL OVER THE PLACE.
I've already stated, and CAPS DOESN'T CHANGE IT... you are not.Making.An.Argument.
These are technical, logical fallacies -
Appeal to emotion
Exaggeration
Appeal to authority
These are not arguments. Quit being silly. You're also constructing a straw man. I've never claimed it "wasn't real", but rather, I caution skepticism. The models have not aligned with reality.
Just imagine that every actuary and every insurance company is STILL SELLING LIFE INSURANCE. What is it the insurance companies dont understand?
Just remember that Washington state (where I live) was hit over a month before everyone else and we are still not seeing the exponential problems or the hospitals over run.
You laughing man have too much faith in the narrative and what you are being told. We are being lied to and it hard to think clearly when we are afraid.
Do you still believe the people that told you it was going to cost us 2 million american lives?
Do you still believe the people that told you it was 10 x more deadly?
Do you still believe the people that told you hospitals would be over run?
All of those statements were disputed when the bad math was presented at the outset and only recently are they adjusting the numbers down to 200,000.
That number is suspect as well and we are already hearing about 80,000 which is the number we got from the flu in 2018.
Now they said the hospitalisation rate is and will go thru the roof and gave amazing numbers. Well those numbers have not happened. We had 955,000 hospitalised in 2018 and you did not even know it happened.
Want to read how much garbage the numbers are. Here is a well documented list of garbage the hospitalisation rates are.
"Analyst Discovers a Major Flaw in IHME Model Used by White House; Actual Numbers Are a Fraction of Expected"
"The model projected that over 121,000 people would be hospitalized in the country yesterday. The actual number was 31,142. (25.7%)"
Texas: Projection – 1,716; Actual – 196 (11.4%)
Georgia: Projection – 2,777; Actual – 952 (34.3%)
Virginia: Projection – 607; Actual – 305 (50%)
Tennessee: Projection – 2,214; Actual number – 200 (9%)
New York: Projection – 50,962; Actual number – 18,368 (36%)
My state of NH is locked down thru May4. We have 3 deaths all elderly with underlying conditions .
It’s crazy.
And people are panicking about it more and more every day. And mayhem is always 2 weeks away.
I live in Portland and work in HVAC...we are still up and running.
Mac is my second favorite town in OR besides corvallis. Am from Newport originally but moved for better weather
I don't mind if citizens of a state like Oregon want to take the risk of reopening against the President's advice. The flip side is that if things get out of control, they should not receive additional help from other states.
Big Brother.
And we're just going along with it.
Ignore the downvotes. Lots of anti-Trump infiltrators from /politics always trying to isolate, demonize, and punish Trump supporters. Just like IRL.
This is the stupidest shit ever. What a dumb-as-dog's-balls claim.
I think YOU people are shills. Most of us who don't trust this coronashit love and trust Trump. Sounds like Q type 'trust the plan!" nonsense,
We just don't trust the rest of government.
I'd like to see these videos of body-laden convoys.
We already know the economy is in the shitter. It's apples to oranges. The economy is trashed BECAUSE of government overreach, not because of -
Massive deaths
Massive hospitalizations
Your question is a red herring. "How many deaths?!" This is just rank hyperbole. And a logical fallacy. An appeal to emotion, with an unsubstantiated, exaggerated claim, isn't an argument.
CLAIMS - Projections of 2 MILLION dead. Now? Claimed maybe 80,000... this after claims of 250,000. Claim? Dates ALL OVER THE PLACE.
Wake up.
I've already stated, and CAPS DOESN'T CHANGE IT... you are not.Making.An.Argument.
These are technical, logical fallacies -
Appeal to emotion
Exaggeration
Appeal to authority
These are not arguments. Quit being silly. You're also constructing a straw man. I've never claimed it "wasn't real", but rather, I caution skepticism. The models have not aligned with reality.
As for the videos -
At this point the US is at one of its lowest virus seasons in decades. 23,000 from flu and 4,000 from China death flu.
2017-2018 was 80,000 and 955,000 hospitalized
2018-2019 was 60,000
2019-2020 is 23,000 flu + 4,000 China Flu for 27,000 total?????
Just imagine that every actuary and every insurance company is STILL SELLING LIFE INSURANCE. What is it the insurance companies dont understand?
Just remember that Washington state (where I live) was hit over a month before everyone else and we are still not seeing the exponential problems or the hospitals over run.
You laughing man have too much faith in the narrative and what you are being told. We are being lied to and it hard to think clearly when we are afraid.
Do you still believe the people that told you it was going to cost us 2 million american lives?
Do you still believe the people that told you it was 10 x more deadly?
Do you still believe the people that told you hospitals would be over run?
All of those statements were disputed when the bad math was presented at the outset and only recently are they adjusting the numbers down to 200,000.
That number is suspect as well and we are already hearing about 80,000 which is the number we got from the flu in 2018.
Now they said the hospitalisation rate is and will go thru the roof and gave amazing numbers. Well those numbers have not happened. We had 955,000 hospitalised in 2018 and you did not even know it happened.
Want to read how much garbage the numbers are. Here is a well documented list of garbage the hospitalisation rates are.
"Analyst Discovers a Major Flaw in IHME Model Used by White House; Actual Numbers Are a Fraction of Expected"
"The model projected that over 121,000 people would be hospitalized in the country yesterday. The actual number was 31,142. (25.7%)"
Texas: Projection – 1,716; Actual – 196 (11.4%)
Georgia: Projection – 2,777; Actual – 952 (34.3%)
Virginia: Projection – 607; Actual – 305 (50%)
Tennessee: Projection – 2,214; Actual number – 200 (9%)
New York: Projection – 50,962; Actual number – 18,368 (36%)
https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2020/04/02/analyst-discovers-a-major-flaw-in-imhe-coronavirus-model-used-by-white-house-heres-why/
Go ahead. Ask any actuary that you know. Why are they still selling life insurance policies if everyone is going to die?
The state of Washington had it officially as of January 15th.
More than a month before the east coast.
They had NO lock down or distancing until last week?
Why are we not seeing the bodies stacked up?
Are you saying that WA has special immunity?
We already revised down from 2 million to 200,000. My bet is UW is right with the 80,000
Reality in Washington State
2018-2019 Season - 245 Deaths (last year) in Washington State last year total from all viruses including a corona virus
2017-2018 Season - 296 Deaths in Washington State from all viruses
2019-2020 Current Season - 247 (Covid) + 89 (flu) = 336 Deaths in Washington State from all viruses
Where is the exponential threat????????
https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/5100/420-100-FluUpdateSeason2018.pdf
Good little sheeple!