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stealthmoe 3 points ago +5 / -2

No insurance? Get a job.

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TheOutlawPepeWales 1 point ago +2 / -1

That's what paychecks are for.

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braveContrarian 2 points ago +2 / -0

im all for this if we outlaw trade with other countries, or force employers in the US to pay US wages to foreign nationals they employ.

that would bring back a majority of jobs that actually pay people enough to get that without a handout.

like programming and engineering jobs from india for example. if we raised the bar and forced companies to pay indians $70,000-$180,000 salary with benefits, it would remove the cost savings of not hiring americans.

and if we brought back jobs for low-skilled people and stopped pretending we could have this 'intelligentsia economy' without fully federalizing education and ensuring each citizen got top-quality education to compete against socialist education models... some people, even with the intelligence just never will have the resources to be part of that in our economy but they might be skilled even, or semi-skilled, maybe just as intelligent as people in big tech but cant work anywhere but fast food or retailing chinese made goods? they dont wanna work at walmart -- they want walmart out of business and to work at the factories now owned by the chinese.

well... even then its not possible because too many people compete over high skilled jobs. we NEED low-skilled jobs that pay well like classic manufacturing simply to free up higher skill jobs and make the entire economy competitive.

otherwise you end up with 100 engineers chasing 1 job, with all other 99 positions filled remotely by foreign nationals to save on cost. Now im not saying that all 100 jobs should be available -- perhaps only 50 are possible on the budget with higher pay -- but there should be another 50 jobs in the economy that actually pay those other people enough to survive.

but there arent in an attempted 'intelligentsia economy' where anything lower-skill or in another area of expertise (a biologist cannot just become a physicist overnight, nor can a coal miner become a programmer so simply) has just been removed from the economy.

if a factory does not open for each lumber mill or paper mill that closes, well then, a majority of those workers may never actually find work greater than minimum wage again.

and even those jobs get very competitive when people are desperate to eat and the corporations constantly keep automating to cut down on staff requirements.

the problem specifically is broken globalist trade with communist and socialist states. we cant be trading with them unless we're on an even keel playing by the same rules. otherwise it will massively hurt the people but benefit the elites as well as the other nations.

if we arent playing by the same rules, then no economic games are fair. and nobody should be benefiting from a rigged game like that. economic numbers be damned -- record profits only count when the people get record pay. otherwise its a sham and we're making less money no matter how much GDP grows.

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TheOutlawPepeWales 0 points ago +1 / -1

Aye, it's hard for an employee to demand fair wages when they're competing against illegal immigrants and foreign slave labor. Who's going to pay someone ten bucks an hour to sit on an assembly line when they can get some poor Chinese kid to do it for a nickel?

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TheOutlawPepeWales 0 points ago +1 / -1

I sure do, and I know it would be a lot cheaper if insurance companies weren't forced to cover tens of millions of people who aren't paying their fair share.

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