Looks like things are escalating Patriots. Stay safe and Godspeed.
Edit: “The Department of State advises U.S. citizens to avoid all international travel due to the global impact of COVID-19. In countries where commercial departure options remain available, U.S. citizens who live in the United States should arrange for immediate return to the United States, unless they are prepared to remain abroad for an indefinite period.
At present the Department of State is making every effort to assist U.S. citizens overseas who wish to return to the United States. As the Covid-19 situation develops, our ability to provide such assistance working with commercial airlines or arranging for evacuation flights may become more limited or even unavailable. In recent weeks, commercial airlines have significantly reduced flight schedules and countries have closed airports and borders with little advance notice. If you wish to return to the United States, you should make arrangements to do so now and contact the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate for assistance as needed. There is no guarantee that the Department of State will be able to continue to provide repatriation assistance and transportation options to the United States may be unavailable in the future. If you choose to remain overseas, you should be prepared to remain where you are for the foreseeable future.”
I said this exact same thing yesterday. We are all currently infected with the wuju, but its not until we die from other things that we are labeled a casualty of the virus. "Florida man struck by train, dies from corona chan"
You know, Netflix did just have a series about pandemics. Maybe someone was watching and said hey, the flu is pretty bad-infects millions and look at how many die from it. I have an idea. Let’s start doing death counts and tallies of how many people get it and freak out the world.
If they did death counts of other things, people wouldn’t leave the house either.
Most likely indicates all international travel will be shut down completely shorty. The pieces are in place for it, they got a bailout for the airlines. The State department telling you to get out NOW lends to that. They are arranging flights to get people home, they have been for a while, but this will be your last chance to get home or you will be stuck where you are shortly.
11pm isn't really that bad. Especially when everything closed at midnight before this anyways. I don't have this need to visit the bar right now anyways.
But I guess I'm supposed to believe that a bed time makes me "less free" than the inability to live overseas without the IRS wanting to be involved in every part of my life while NOT living in America.
Lots of cuckpedes angry at you because you dared to suggest America isn't perfect. Fact is a lot of expats have said the same thing. America is far less free than these idiots pretend and while Trump is doing what he can, over half the population is completely worthless.
Yup. Living in a benevolent dictatorship makes you feel free in comparison to America. Sure if you piss off the President you could end up in jail, but in America under Obama it'd get you drone striked, and day to day you don't have to worry about being murdered by the police in a lot of countries that Americans look down their nose at.
Our stated laws are free-er than other countries, absolutely. But how those laws are enforced? The FBI is worse than most police forces in foreign countries.
Right. So you see that when the winds change in Europe, suddenly people are getting locked up for wrong think while we're still relatively safe in that regard. But that's more so because it's more convenient to destroy people's life in the court of public opinion here and keep them thinking they're free. After all, they could always do a no-knock raid on your home, murder you in your bed, plant CP on your computer, and everyone would cheer their heroic police force.
I love a good trip to a dirt poor southeast Asian country, everything is cheap, there are basically no rules, you're more or less a rockstar. But a look behind the curtain and seeing just how poor everyone is and the conditions they live in are pretty horrific. After traveling the world a good bit over the last 15 years, America is a good balance of laws vs freedom, and while there will always be things that are important to certain people they want changed (either more freedom or more control) this country does a good balancing act.
Hey put out a public notice, check the internet make your own masks use the 3M or what ever brand of furnace filters with the higher then 1900 to filter out viruses! Open them up make a cotton cover staple in place. We built a whole navy after Pearl Harbor! Where are those ladies saying they can do anything! Step up ladies, dig out grandma’s old sewing machines and get to work!
That probably won't work out well for you and you may want to rethink.
Most American expats are very used to being in the specialized or valued class where they reside, and major crisis' with suddenly difficult times and/or resources for locals tends to create hostility/shunning/marginalizing towards "outsiders"; and trust me, YOU are an outsider still.
This is in all sincerity, things turn on a dime:
1 I have a co-grandparent to some of my grandbabies who relocated to northern Thailand 3 years back including a Thai girlfriend and supporting most of her extended family, wide expat community, successful work there and a house; he was back here visiting grandkids etc like he does regularly when it hit the fan in Wuhan, and said girlfriend a week later basically said don't return until who know when, no work or food in town and patrols, and she was back in isolated hillfarm compound with family.
2 I have a nephew who refused to return from Shanghai as the lockdowns there expanded. He has spent the majority of years since mid high school either joint learning or teaching in China with only fairly short legs in the US- diplomatic, biz, economics, language degrees now. Told his parents who had secured a very difficult to get ticket and transport for him from Stateside that he was hunkering down in his apartment and had food for a month, not to worry. They haven't heard anything from him (an extremely engaged and loving only child btw) after about 5 weeks in and most between was minimal. He may be just cut off techwise due to all the censoring, but.... yeah.
Do NOT think you are immune to being Othered and assume life will continue being good for you in whatever country you are in. Tribalism is real.
I left 5 years ago. I speak the language. Most every business in a mile radius knows who I am because it's not a tourist area and probably 4 other expats. There's plenty of food. Expat communities are where you get othered, because you live in an othered area by nature. I appreciate what you're saying, but from day one I've spent my time living as a local instead of living among them.
Great post and thanks for the links, especially the 2nd one. I'd encourage people to take a look at the Figs. 1 & 3. Of course those results don't control for any other confounding factors, but does show a significant reduction (1 and 2 orders of magnitudes) between countries that administer the BCG vaccine and those that don't.
All three of those places have far more social cohesion than the United States does, especially the Japanese. Of all the most densely populated areas, Japan is probably the safest.
Reading his posts, it's clear he DOES have connections which enable him to be safe in these areas.
This travel advisory, is of course generalized as most people do not have his level of comfort in another nation.
They recommended this a couple of weeks ago (return or plan to stay indefinitely) but this seems more serious, with the all-caps word "NOW" and everything.
Maybe they're planing on ending all international flights even those with U.S. citizens soon.
They stopped military rotations awhile ago. If you were due to come back, have fun staying overseas. If you were due to go overseas, you're staying in America awhile longer. Deployments might be different though.
Do you expect another country to put you in priority of one of their citizens?
I certainly wouldn't expect us to do the same after there has been plenty of warning and time for people to go back home.
This is the first time I have ever heard or even in history read that the US was telling all citizens to come home “NOW”. It’s the first time I have seen a global “Do Not Travel” advisory, an advisory that previously has only been given to countries like North Korea and Iran.
Think what you want, but this is very serious and if I was overseas and saw this message I would be flying back same day.
I am still on the embassy mailing list for a country I used to work in about 10 years ago. I've been getting daily updates about the situation there and in the last few days they have been sending flight information for flights leaving that country. Not many flights going anywhere as there are only a few flights a week.
The embassy has been strongly encouraging US citizens to buy seats on these flights so that they will be able to get out of there. It looks like a lockdown is coming soon.
Yeah. Remember the Chinese spy lady who snuck into Maro Largo? They are everywhere. Chinese foreign investors own more real estate in the US compared to all the others.
some of us are very much hoping that this is what's really going on here - that that's what all the "field hospitals" and military presence is really about.
there are more and more anonymous reports on twitter that describe "children being rescued." make of them what you will.
Seems like every new day in quarantine in a new opportunity for doomsayers to drive our local/state/federal governments to turn the screws on us.
Just surfing a couple random headlines other than this one: "Laredo can fine residents for not wearing masks in public," "Five feet of social distancing may not be enough, says expert," "Trump mulling domestic flight restrictions..."
I wholly expect two more weeks from now to be socially shamed for leaving my house for ANY reason, and the quarantine to be extended at least another week because another thousand people died in one day in a country of over 300 million people.
They know they would be crushed in a direct military conflict with the USA. So propaganda attack, subversion, and undermine from within, without direct confrontation
If we would have retaliated on Iran for the missile strike I’d believe it. Not starting WW3... The outbreak could be a good thing in that it moves a lot of manufacturing back to the West.
If you've been reading between the lines, this is to prevent terrorist actions against American citizens abroad. Now that COVID is looking to be a bust, the Enemy is going to try to cause more damage in another way.
Yikes! - I'm currently in Mexico (just outside Mexico City) I've been able to travel to and from the US/Mexico several times over the course of a 2 months. You would all be alarmed at the 'Testing' the airlines have been giving me, essentially (Do you have COVID Check Yes or NO. Have you been near someone who has COVID? YES or NO?
Anyway, I'm prepared to be here for a couple of month, but the idea of not being able to get back to the states if sh*t really hits the fan is marginally worrisome.
For the record, my Wife lives in Mexico and we have been trying to get her papers done so she and our daughter can come to the US but......everything on standstill.
Looks like things are escalating Patriots. Stay safe and Godspeed.
Edit: “The Department of State advises U.S. citizens to avoid all international travel due to the global impact of COVID-19. In countries where commercial departure options remain available, U.S. citizens who live in the United States should arrange for immediate return to the United States, unless they are prepared to remain abroad for an indefinite period. At present the Department of State is making every effort to assist U.S. citizens overseas who wish to return to the United States. As the Covid-19 situation develops, our ability to provide such assistance working with commercial airlines or arranging for evacuation flights may become more limited or even unavailable. In recent weeks, commercial airlines have significantly reduced flight schedules and countries have closed airports and borders with little advance notice. If you wish to return to the United States, you should make arrangements to do so now and contact the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate for assistance as needed. There is no guarantee that the Department of State will be able to continue to provide repatriation assistance and transportation options to the United States may be unavailable in the future. If you choose to remain overseas, you should be prepared to remain where you are for the foreseeable future.”
Bro you just got stickied in the middle of the night! Congratulations!
Holy shit. That’s a first for me. It only took the fucking apocalypse!
It's the Democrats 2020 election strategy.
Well, the dead do typically vote D
I wish this was only a joke, but I 100% believe it IS their strategy. It's already giving them everything they want!
The Flu Coup
Maybe this is all a fever dream because I feel like I’ve seen this show before. Perhaps like that show, we all already have it.
I said this exact same thing yesterday. We are all currently infected with the wuju, but its not until we die from other things that we are labeled a casualty of the virus. "Florida man struck by train, dies from corona chan"
You know, Netflix did just have a series about pandemics. Maybe someone was watching and said hey, the flu is pretty bad-infects millions and look at how many die from it. I have an idea. Let’s start doing death counts and tallies of how many people get it and freak out the world.
If they did death counts of other things, people wouldn’t leave the house either.
Flu outbreaks can shut down hospitals by overloading them with patients.
But it is in clusters because it doesn't spread as fast and easily as COVID19. They're different scales of impact.
Much like they did during the summer of the shark, which I distinctly remember as a child growing up in a coastal locale.
L M F A OOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! Funniest thing I've ever seen on here.
We got to try and laugh don’t we fren😜
You know what makes me chuckle in all of this? We call it the “Wu Flu” and the Chinese can’t say it.
Rufru?
Mandarin does have a separate L and R sound so you can have names like Liu Renyu.
Nothing new here. Already hard to travel internationally. So many stories of people trapped in this country or that. These stories are weeks old.
The government just doesn't want to have to do special flights to other countries. Which tbh using military planes. Wouldnt be that hard to do.
Not really an escalation of anything.
Most likely indicates all international travel will be shut down completely shorty. The pieces are in place for it, they got a bailout for the airlines. The State department telling you to get out NOW lends to that. They are arranging flights to get people home, they have been for a while, but this will be your last chance to get home or you will be stuck where you are shortly.
Cool. See ya never, loser.
Hahahahahahaha I just laughed like crazy at that!
^ Deserves .WIN-GOLD!
Have fun with your........ curfew?
The virus...it only comes out at night, ya know!
Haha I know... You would think that would be the best time to go out. And he is calling us dumb!
It’s a maneater.
watch out, boy!!
she'll flu you up!
11pm isn't really that bad. Especially when everything closed at midnight before this anyways. I don't have this need to visit the bar right now anyways.
But I guess I'm supposed to believe that a bed time makes me "less free" than the inability to live overseas without the IRS wanting to be involved in every part of my life while NOT living in America.
Perspective. It's a hell of a drug.
Your username is perfect for you
Hence the username. Believe me. I know all about every aspect of it.
Thanks for paying your taxes and housing your anti-American tripe overseas. You're the real MVP.
Getting taxed twice is totally freedom though!
Freedom tax.
Lots of cuckpedes angry at you because you dared to suggest America isn't perfect. Fact is a lot of expats have said the same thing. America is far less free than these idiots pretend and while Trump is doing what he can, over half the population is completely worthless.
Yup. Living in a benevolent dictatorship makes you feel free in comparison to America. Sure if you piss off the President you could end up in jail, but in America under Obama it'd get you drone striked, and day to day you don't have to worry about being murdered by the police in a lot of countries that Americans look down their nose at.
Our stated laws are free-er than other countries, absolutely. But how those laws are enforced? The FBI is worse than most police forces in foreign countries.
Right. So you see that when the winds change in Europe, suddenly people are getting locked up for wrong think while we're still relatively safe in that regard. But that's more so because it's more convenient to destroy people's life in the court of public opinion here and keep them thinking they're free. After all, they could always do a no-knock raid on your home, murder you in your bed, plant CP on your computer, and everyone would cheer their heroic police force.
I love a good trip to a dirt poor southeast Asian country, everything is cheap, there are basically no rules, you're more or less a rockstar. But a look behind the curtain and seeing just how poor everyone is and the conditions they live in are pretty horrific. After traveling the world a good bit over the last 15 years, America is a good balance of laws vs freedom, and while there will always be things that are important to certain people they want changed (either more freedom or more control) this country does a good balancing act.
Not if they succeed in forcing "mail-in" ass-kicking attempts only.
Hey put out a public notice, check the internet make your own masks use the 3M or what ever brand of furnace filters with the higher then 1900 to filter out viruses! Open them up make a cotton cover staple in place. We built a whole navy after Pearl Harbor! Where are those ladies saying they can do anything! Step up ladies, dig out grandma’s old sewing machines and get to work!
You think any liberal woman born in the past 30 years knows how to sew?
That probably won't work out well for you and you may want to rethink.
Most American expats are very used to being in the specialized or valued class where they reside, and major crisis' with suddenly difficult times and/or resources for locals tends to create hostility/shunning/marginalizing towards "outsiders"; and trust me, YOU are an outsider still.
This is in all sincerity, things turn on a dime: 1 I have a co-grandparent to some of my grandbabies who relocated to northern Thailand 3 years back including a Thai girlfriend and supporting most of her extended family, wide expat community, successful work there and a house; he was back here visiting grandkids etc like he does regularly when it hit the fan in Wuhan, and said girlfriend a week later basically said don't return until who know when, no work or food in town and patrols, and she was back in isolated hillfarm compound with family. 2 I have a nephew who refused to return from Shanghai as the lockdowns there expanded. He has spent the majority of years since mid high school either joint learning or teaching in China with only fairly short legs in the US- diplomatic, biz, economics, language degrees now. Told his parents who had secured a very difficult to get ticket and transport for him from Stateside that he was hunkering down in his apartment and had food for a month, not to worry. They haven't heard anything from him (an extremely engaged and loving only child btw) after about 5 weeks in and most between was minimal. He may be just cut off techwise due to all the censoring, but.... yeah.
Do NOT think you are immune to being Othered and assume life will continue being good for you in whatever country you are in. Tribalism is real.
If China really is blaming Americans for spreading this, Americans in China really do need to get out.
good post, TY. updoot
I left 5 years ago. I speak the language. Most every business in a mile radius knows who I am because it's not a tourist area and probably 4 other expats. There's plenty of food. Expat communities are where you get othered, because you live in an othered area by nature. I appreciate what you're saying, but from day one I've spent my time living as a local instead of living among them.
Great post and thanks for the links, especially the 2nd one. I'd encourage people to take a look at the Figs. 1 & 3. Of course those results don't control for any other confounding factors, but does show a significant reduction (1 and 2 orders of magnitudes) between countries that administer the BCG vaccine and those that don't.
All three of those places have far more social cohesion than the United States does, especially the Japanese. Of all the most densely populated areas, Japan is probably the safest.
Reading his posts, it's clear he DOES have connections which enable him to be safe in these areas.
This travel advisory, is of course generalized as most people do not have his level of comfort in another nation.
Nice shiny new account you got there Xi, or should I say, Pooh!
So I guess the new hotness is if you question lack of personal safety measures in American society during a virus outbreak, you're a Chinese bot.
Sounds more like leftist speak to me.
Likely jacked on meth.
12.5
This is exactly what they say before they close the boarders. Mark my words, it's coming.
Should have already closed the boarders.... Weeks ago.
Around the time cases were coming from Italy. In fact, closing them now when the virus is spreading from person to person is a waste of time.
Same with lockdowns. They came too late. If it was something they were going to do. Lockdowns should have been happening in mid-February.
God dam... 2 in a row. It's borders, my dudes.
Autocorrect is our enema
It was intentional but thanks.
Got em!
Thanks captain hindsight. What would we ever do without you??
3 weeks ago mayors and governors were scoffing at the idea of any lockdowns
Mid-January if at all. It spread to the US Jan 20th, at the very latest.
They recommended this a couple of weeks ago (return or plan to stay indefinitely) but this seems more serious, with the all-caps word "NOW" and everything.
Maybe they're planing on ending all international flights even those with U.S. citizens soon.
Come home now to get your dose of hydroxychloroquine that we are about to approve for every American.
Man this needs to happen now
Propaganda is a hell of a drug.
To be fair, 'eating bats' makes for way better jokes and is still laughably embarrassing.
Come on home brothers and sisters, it's game time.
China's gonna need to re-enter the bronze age.
They already eat like it's stone age.
What about military overseas?
I'm sure they are going to do whatever their mission requires.
They have a military ride home if necessary
I'm sure that doesn't apply / is under DoD jurisdiction.
Mission first.
They stopped military rotations awhile ago. If you were due to come back, have fun staying overseas. If you were due to go overseas, you're staying in America awhile longer. Deployments might be different though.
Oh no, will all celebrities who moved to Canada and Mexico when Trump was elected return now?
Done.
That was quick and easy.
How worried should an American overseas be?
Do you expect another country to put you in priority of one of their citizens? I certainly wouldn't expect us to do the same after there has been plenty of warning and time for people to go back home.
How often does the U.S. tell citizens overseas to come home? I would say VERY and consider it URGENT.
This is the first time I have ever heard or even in history read that the US was telling all citizens to come home “NOW”. It’s the first time I have seen a global “Do Not Travel” advisory, an advisory that previously has only been given to countries like North Korea and Iran.
Think what you want, but this is very serious and if I was overseas and saw this message I would be flying back same day.
Or at least the US and her allies.
Damn son
I am still on the embassy mailing list for a country I used to work in about 10 years ago. I've been getting daily updates about the situation there and in the last few days they have been sending flight information for flights leaving that country. Not many flights going anywhere as there are only a few flights a week.
The embassy has been strongly encouraging US citizens to buy seats on these flights so that they will be able to get out of there. It looks like a lockdown is coming soon.
Get yourselves back on the right side of that big, beautiful wall 🇺🇸
I dunno about anyone else but I am literally at OH FUCK WHAT NOW levels of stress.
I'm pretty chill but I gotta say, shits eating away at me here.
Relax guy, probably just more travel restrictions.
I find counting cases of ammo relaxing, give it a try.
I️ know how you feel.
O shit!
Have you not been seeing the videos of them doing this?
I did hear a bit about how a bunch of extra travel from Wuhan to the US was happening in Dec/Jan...
Yeah. Remember the Chinese spy lady who snuck into Maro Largo? They are everywhere. Chinese foreign investors own more real estate in the US compared to all the others.
An Executive Order will fix that
Especially if this can spring any of the ones being held for trafficking out of the hands of their abusers.
some of us are very much hoping that this is what's really going on here - that that's what all the "field hospitals" and military presence is really about.
there are more and more anonymous reports on twitter that describe "children being rescued." make of them what you will.
I️ pray constantly every day. We all need to be praying.
Seems like every new day in quarantine in a new opportunity for doomsayers to drive our local/state/federal governments to turn the screws on us.
Just surfing a couple random headlines other than this one: "Laredo can fine residents for not wearing masks in public," "Five feet of social distancing may not be enough, says expert," "Trump mulling domestic flight restrictions..."
I wholly expect two more weeks from now to be socially shamed for leaving my house for ANY reason, and the quarantine to be extended at least another week because another thousand people died in one day in a country of over 300 million people.
it's economic warfare. you know the saying "you may not care about politics, but politics cares about YOU?" now is the time
Level 4 was implemented on 3/31. Maybe they are prepping for Level 5.
Is forever an indefinite period ?
or China
Was looking for this comment.
What if this is more about potential for war with China, and less about the virus?
Maybe Trump has proof China released the virus on purpose. Maybe he knows there is more to their plot.
The announcement of those big naval 'exercises' seemed awfully out of place alongside the corona presser the other day...
https://thedonald.win/p/FMSo8Hlp/china-is-preparing-to-start-a-wa/c/
General Milley wasn't talking to drug cartels. He was talking to China. Read the article in the link above.
War?
Lol I'm stuck in Italy.
I wouldn't mind being stuck there, I love Italy. Just don't get sick :)
Yeah I love Italy too, just not right now, but we're on the downslope so hopefully I'll be out of lockdown soon.
We going to war?
Or China w/ us anyway... which they've already been quietly doing for years.
Thats their modus operandi.
They know they would be crushed in a direct military conflict with the USA. So propaganda attack, subversion, and undermine from within, without direct confrontation
with human traffickers, yes. Some of us are very hopeful that this virus insanity is being used as cover for a worldwide rescue op. Stay tuned.
less they are prepared to remain abroad for an indefinite period.
If we would have retaliated on Iran for the missile strike I’d believe it. Not starting WW3... The outbreak could be a good thing in that it moves a lot of manufacturing back to the West.
Already started. Americans just haven’t noticed
Hold onto your butts... War is coming...
I have to ask how dumb you have to be to still be traveling abroad.
I hope all airline passengers are given an N95 mask.
Scary stuff! Doesn’t sound like we’ve reached the peak yet
If you've been reading between the lines, this is to prevent terrorist actions against American citizens abroad. Now that COVID is looking to be a bust, the Enemy is going to try to cause more damage in another way.
"unless they are prepared to remain abroad for an indefinite period..."
We're closing up shop, boys and girls!
Get yer asses home!
Yikes! - I'm currently in Mexico (just outside Mexico City) I've been able to travel to and from the US/Mexico several times over the course of a 2 months. You would all be alarmed at the 'Testing' the airlines have been giving me, essentially (Do you have COVID Check Yes or NO. Have you been near someone who has COVID? YES or NO?
Anyway, I'm prepared to be here for a couple of month, but the idea of not being able to get back to the states if sh*t really hits the fan is marginally worrisome.
For the record, my Wife lives in Mexico and we have been trying to get her papers done so she and our daughter can come to the US but......everything on standstill.
Good luck Pedes!
WW3 incoming.
grounding all planes? stopping interstate travel?
I fucking hope not. There is still large demand for domestic airline travel
Come home? There shouldn't be any commercial flights flying. Shut it the fuck down. If you aren't home by now, fuck off.
Yeah come back now to your prison called your home, with no toilet paper.