It really depends on location. Some hospitals are empty, others are full. The full hospitals (for instance, my brother is a doctor at one in nyc), the waiting rooms are still empty, and there are no lines, because it's intentionally set up that way for security. His hospital is only corona patients now, as are most in nyc -- this means it's incredibly secure, no visitors allowed in, and getting admitted is not the standard procedure of checking-in at the ER/waiting room (which is why the waiting room is empty/no lines, so it's easy to assume the hospital is empty when it's actually at capacity).
I'm prepared to get flamed for this, because it's been the reaction every time I try and simply share information I've been getting first-hand from a doctor in NYC, but I'm just passing along genuine info I've been getting. What's important to remember here is, I'm NOT saying this is indicative of every hospital, or everywhere in the country, nor am I saying this is some apocalyptic scenario and everyone need panic. My brother is actually fairly calm and not insanely concerned (or at least voicing high concern when we talk), noting that he will almost definitely catch the virus but isn't worried; but this isn't a hoax or some giant lie, and people seem to have a hard time grasping what they're seeing with hospitals.
Again, yes, some hospitals are fairly empty depending on location -- people are taking the recommendations seriously and staying home, resulting in empty hospitals in areas that aren't yet overburdened with virus patients. That's the entire purpose, to prevent the rapid spread, and keep beds open/prevent hospitals from being overburdened so they can handle an influx of virus patients. But there are also hospitals near, at, or over capacity with virus patients, and unless you are a doctor or a patient at one of these hospitals, you aren't going to get inside the hospital to see it, or at best get in or near a waiting area which will, in fact, be empty
I appreciate your information. It’s good to get first hand accounts. What I found odd in this video was they went to the hospitals shown on the news as having lines and were empty. The one who produced the video is requesting more people to send her actual news footage and then wants them to record if it is different. Not just empty hospitals like where your brother works where hospitals are intentionally kept locked down. That was what I found interesting was the two different views: news media and every day citizen recordings.
There's absolutely a lot of misinformation and fuckery going on, and I don't think anyone knows the reality of the crisis right now. It's good to remain skeptical and question everything, I'm just getting a bit annoyed with the people who are convinced this is a hoax in its entirety, and the virus poses no threat or isn't something that requires action (To be clear, I'm not suggesting you are one of these people).
I've straight up had people call me a liar, shill and a lefty just for relaying information I've gotten from my brother, which I'm only sharing because I think it's important for everyone to share real and truthful information right now to give us a better idea of what's going on. I guess it's just frustrating that there's this many people who are so convinced it's a hoax that they'll not just dismiss or ignore something I'm saying -- that I know to be factual -- but also call it a lie and downvote me to oblivion, which I think is downright dangerous because it's convincing others of a reality that isn't so -- it's no better than what they're accusing the media of doing.
In the end, of course the media is overhyping and creating panic -- it's part of their marketing strategy. But that doesn't mean the opposite is true, or that the virus isn't a very real and very concerning threat that people need to take seriously and do their part to help prevent its spread. The longer this goes on, the worse off we all are - and while a lot of this country might be fine right now, the situation in NYC is very real, and it's crucial we don't let other areas become as bad. For some reason, people think that because their area isn't like NYC, it means it's all a hoax, that NYC mustn't be that bad or look like their area. Or if they do accept that NYC is hit hard right now, that it can't happen where they live.
I wish more people would be open to discussion and not down vote. I feel allowing everyone to be able to voice opinions and facts is important. I love coming to this community as I get a different take on what is happening in the world but I also don’t want only one side without an adequate discussion.
Here’s my take on this virus. I do believe there is a virus (developed by China? Maybe. Spread on purpose? Could be). But what I also know for a fact is a population must be exposed to a disease and 65% must get it to create true herd immunity. Sticking everyone in their homes in hopes it disappears is ridiculous. We’re told it’s to slow things down but in most areas of the country nothing is happening. So are we to be quarantined for ever?
I still don’t understand why our government has shut down our entire economy for this? I personally stayed home for over two weeks but now must venture out to feed my large family and literally can’t buy enough in one trip due to limits. So now I must go out multiple times a week. At first I was angry but now I’ve decided I’m done complying and will go about my life as usual (well as much as can).
I definitely agree with a lot of this. I'm struggling to understand the response as well, even when accounting for the severity of the virus, given the economic repercussions. It's tough to reconcile any of the theories I've been hearing, given that I personally trust Trump, think he understands and knows far more than the rest of us, and wouldn't enact economy-destroying measures unless he believed there was good reason to do so. I'm honestly starting to wonder if there's something far more serious going on between us and China -- not just the virus -- that's coming into play with the responses and measures Trump is taking.
It really depends on location. Some hospitals are empty, others are full. The full hospitals (for instance, my brother is a doctor at one in nyc), the waiting rooms are still empty, and there are no lines, because it's intentionally set up that way for security. His hospital is only corona patients now, as are most in nyc -- this means it's incredibly secure, no visitors allowed in, and getting admitted is not the standard procedure of checking-in at the ER/waiting room (which is why the waiting room is empty/no lines, so it's easy to assume the hospital is empty when it's actually at capacity).
I'm prepared to get flamed for this, because it's been the reaction every time I try and simply share information I've been getting first-hand from a doctor in NYC, but I'm just passing along genuine info I've been getting. What's important to remember here is, I'm NOT saying this is indicative of every hospital, or everywhere in the country, nor am I saying this is some apocalyptic scenario and everyone need panic. My brother is actually fairly calm and not insanely concerned (or at least voicing high concern when we talk), noting that he will almost definitely catch the virus but isn't worried; but this isn't a hoax or some giant lie, and people seem to have a hard time grasping what they're seeing with hospitals.
Again, yes, some hospitals are fairly empty depending on location -- people are taking the recommendations seriously and staying home, resulting in empty hospitals in areas that aren't yet overburdened with virus patients. That's the entire purpose, to prevent the rapid spread, and keep beds open/prevent hospitals from being overburdened so they can handle an influx of virus patients. But there are also hospitals near, at, or over capacity with virus patients, and unless you are a doctor or a patient at one of these hospitals, you aren't going to get inside the hospital to see it, or at best get in or near a waiting area which will, in fact, be empty
I appreciate your information. It’s good to get first hand accounts. What I found odd in this video was they went to the hospitals shown on the news as having lines and were empty. The one who produced the video is requesting more people to send her actual news footage and then wants them to record if it is different. Not just empty hospitals like where your brother works where hospitals are intentionally kept locked down. That was what I found interesting was the two different views: news media and every day citizen recordings.
There's absolutely a lot of misinformation and fuckery going on, and I don't think anyone knows the reality of the crisis right now. It's good to remain skeptical and question everything, I'm just getting a bit annoyed with the people who are convinced this is a hoax in its entirety, and the virus poses no threat or isn't something that requires action (To be clear, I'm not suggesting you are one of these people).
I've straight up had people call me a liar, shill and a lefty just for relaying information I've gotten from my brother, which I'm only sharing because I think it's important for everyone to share real and truthful information right now to give us a better idea of what's going on. I guess it's just frustrating that there's this many people who are so convinced it's a hoax that they'll not just dismiss or ignore something I'm saying -- that I know to be factual -- but also call it a lie and downvote me to oblivion, which I think is downright dangerous because it's convincing others of a reality that isn't so -- it's no better than what they're accusing the media of doing.
In the end, of course the media is overhyping and creating panic -- it's part of their marketing strategy. But that doesn't mean the opposite is true, or that the virus isn't a very real and very concerning threat that people need to take seriously and do their part to help prevent its spread. The longer this goes on, the worse off we all are - and while a lot of this country might be fine right now, the situation in NYC is very real, and it's crucial we don't let other areas become as bad. For some reason, people think that because their area isn't like NYC, it means it's all a hoax, that NYC mustn't be that bad or look like their area. Or if they do accept that NYC is hit hard right now, that it can't happen where they live.
I wish more people would be open to discussion and not down vote. I feel allowing everyone to be able to voice opinions and facts is important. I love coming to this community as I get a different take on what is happening in the world but I also don’t want only one side without an adequate discussion.
Here’s my take on this virus. I do believe there is a virus (developed by China? Maybe. Spread on purpose? Could be). But what I also know for a fact is a population must be exposed to a disease and 65% must get it to create true herd immunity. Sticking everyone in their homes in hopes it disappears is ridiculous. We’re told it’s to slow things down but in most areas of the country nothing is happening. So are we to be quarantined for ever?
I still don’t understand why our government has shut down our entire economy for this? I personally stayed home for over two weeks but now must venture out to feed my large family and literally can’t buy enough in one trip due to limits. So now I must go out multiple times a week. At first I was angry but now I’ve decided I’m done complying and will go about my life as usual (well as much as can).
I definitely agree with a lot of this. I'm struggling to understand the response as well, even when accounting for the severity of the virus, given the economic repercussions. It's tough to reconcile any of the theories I've been hearing, given that I personally trust Trump, think he understands and knows far more than the rest of us, and wouldn't enact economy-destroying measures unless he believed there was good reason to do so. I'm honestly starting to wonder if there's something far more serious going on between us and China -- not just the virus -- that's coming into play with the responses and measures Trump is taking.