Trump needs to take charge and do so now.
These doctors need to stay in their lane. All this mathematical modeling shit is out of their area of expertise.
The bureaucrats have no idea what they're doing and are highly incompetent at everything.
Fucking ridiculous to destroy a multi-trillion dollar economy because 54,000 people died.
What is the plan here? Just let the economy die because some doctor doesn't know how to analyze statistical models properly?
Or some statistics expert decided that well actually if you change that variable by a few factors and alter this other coefficient right here... then that means....
And these are the people who have the keys to the American economy??
Million, not billion.
That's correct. My bad.
And your deaths are worldwide not USA.
its all good.
Thanks at first I thought no one would correct them, and that felt kinda shitty.
one more month, minimum if you believe your local authorities will just open everything up once Trump says "things are ok".
one business dying is a tragedy. A million business dying is a statistic.
Sounds like something Pelosi would say
he's boxed in. The media overhyped this virus, just like they have for the collusion, impeachment, etc, but this time it actually caught on and caused reaction at the local level.
Cities and states were taking action in accordance with the deep state propaganda about infection etc.
When Trump banned travel from Europe I think that was his attempt to take decisive action to quell the hysteria, but instead it validated the hysteria in the minds of the gullible and set off a chain reaction of another layer of shutdowns and the state and local level.
We're in a negative feedback loop of hysteria between state and local nit wits, mass media, gullible normies, etc.
The fever will only break when these forecasts, link enclosed, are proven undeniably wrong. Next week there are supposed to be 20,000 deaths by April 10th, following week 38,000 deaths. Two weeks of misses to the downside, as well as misses on bed utilization will punch a giant hole in the credibility of Covid mania.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections?fbclid=IwAR00-viu_8hni-PknALtX4ppWHwyuLCX20f-stNDaaSn4nQWj5ZiAT2slg4
And at the end, China will be out of our critical supply chain. Open borders will be dead. Nobody will give a fat shit about transgender rights or any of the other ridiculous bullshit. Everyone will have seen how badly the press and the Democrats are in the pocket of the globalists and China, everyone will see who sold their soul to China for money. The EU will be finished. Everyone will police their borders. Iran will be on it's knees. The U.S. military will be manning the U.S. border instead of every border in the Middle East. The Democrat Party will be a laughing stock, and the people who put us in this position will be held to account.
This is what gives me hope
Vince McMahon meme as I was reading this
This comment needs to be a stickied post.
If I wasn't so grizzled I'd blush, thx
Freedom Boner Intensifies
He needs to unbox. Now.
There isn't time right now for waiting around.
He can't unbox, the covid forecasts have to be proven wrong first.
He would have nobody on his side until then. None of the state or local officials would listen to him.
They've already been proven wrong.
How much more wrong do they have to be proven at this point? Even the MSM is starting to backpedal with the rest of the model creators.
Their sales pitch is composed of 1) "Muh Exponential GRowth rate!!" and 2) "Not enough testing so we don't really know"
I know this because I have this argument daily with my dad, who is an engineer, and my neighbors who are oil and gas execs. Definitely not stupid people but will buy the narrative that comes from institutional authority figures so long as there is data to somewhat justify the claim.
If you compare the death forecasts to the reported deaths, that number is still tracking budget to actual. But damn near half the deaths are NY/NJ so it's going to most likely hit a wall soon. Next Friday the figure is supposed to be 20,000 deaths, then the following Friday it's supposed to be 38,000 deaths. (Total) I think that is where the forecasts really start to veer off course from reality.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections?fbclid=IwAR00-viu_8hni-PknALtX4ppWHwyuLCX20f-stNDaaSn4nQWj5ZiAT2slg4
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Remember when everyone gave blood after 9/11 and 99% of it ended up being put in a landfill?
Now the model is down to 54k? It was like 200k a few days ago. Wtf
I was 2.5 million a week before that
I had to explain to my brother how bad this really is. I told him picture a steam engine that is powering a massing fly wheel. Now you can take power off the fly wheel, tap the breaks and coast for a little while but you have to apply power soon after or it will require more power to get back up to speed.
Same applies to our economy, but we have cut power to the fly wheel and it is effecting small companies, large companies, towns, cities, counties, states, the country, foreign countries that get imports and do exports, and ultimately people. The longer or economy stalls you begin to get small collapses that will begin to effect bigger entities up the economic food chain. Small business effect their suppliers and customers, that effects the loac govenment tax revenues and their employess, which in turn effect the larger county and state governments. Now add in the unemployment benefits going out now and that will impact state and federal level tea revenues.
Disrupt the economic food chain and it ripples up to the top. The longer we wait to go back to work the more damage is done and the longer it takes to fix.
And.... it isn't even that many. That's waht they're reporting worldwide. Granted, China may have lied (probably did). Regardless though, even if 2 million died in the US alone, it wouldn't be worth doing all this shit imo.
I like this. No hiding behind "the numbers are fake". You think the economic damage done to 360 million people outweigh the lives of 2 million people. I wish more people here were intellectually honest like this.
Math != Science
I am sorry that I have but one upvote to give for this pede!
Bur how about a brick?
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GET THIS PATRIOT A BRICK! THAT'S 167666 BRICKS HANDED OUT!
We are at 23.6155384826677653097966528% of our goal to BUILD THE WALL starting from Imperial Beach, CA to Brownsville, Texas! Let's make sure everyone gets a brick in the United States! For every Centipede a brick, for every brick a Centipede!
At this rate, the wall will be 1843.66269724521960953084392 MILES WIDE and 491.352593635147337532694002 FEET HIGH by tomorrow! DO YOUR PART!
I’ve noticed some pretty horrendous spelling and grammar mistakes on this site lately. Tighten it up people.
Grammar nazi goes back to twitter or cries to spez.
It's not for 54,000 deaths. It for the difference between 54,000 and what it would have been if we didn't shut down.
Found the glue sniffer!
30 DAYS TO STOP CONCERN TROLLING
This is textbook definition of concern trolling.
Just stop.
We don't need 20 posts a day saying the same thing. If you're a pede I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you don't understand what concern trolling is.
If you're from /politics you will be deported back to mommy's basement.
This explains what concern trolling is from T_D:
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5asj7o/announcement_you_know_we_are_winning_because_ctr/
You’re just flat out wrong. Do you have grand parents? Parents? Even young people are dying. This seems like a troll. Also, this isn’t a depression, the economy will get back up to speed in no time. You are an idiot.
if theres an economy to get back by then. What people don't seem to understand is, the longer this goes on without any kind of certainty, the more the economy will continue to crash. period. if it crashes completely, there's nothing to "get back up to speed".
You can't just "recover" from the damage done already. It will take years now. It's not like in June (if anyone believes that) when this lockdown bullshit is over, someone just flips a switch and the Dow skyrockets to 30k, businesses open back up and it's gonna be a party in the USA. It simply is not going to happen like that at all!
If we don't turn the economy back on, NOW, it won't matter when people finally admit it's ok to. This isn't a hit at Trump, it's a hit at governors who are holding their states hostage because of curves on a graph and misreported numbers of cases and deaths making everyone freeze with fear that they go outside without a mask on, someone exhales in their direction and they're a week away from being in a hospital hooked up to a ventilator with a chance of losing their lives. It's the fear that's destroying everything. We aren't shills for pointing all this out.
We are stuck until these Covid forecasts are busted.
At the moment, mass hysteria about Covid is greater than the anger about economic loss.
Let me tell you something they are not talking about publicly though, and that's the financial system. Back in the 2008 collapse we were days away from money market accounts going illiquid. In other words, the most riskless asset was at risk of becoming worthless. If that were to occur, you would have a bankrun overnight.
A bankrun means the financial system has completely failed. Nobody can get money out of ATM's, transactions can't take place, and when they finally bring it back online money is so devalued it costs 100 bucks to buy toilet paper.
Right, the worst part of all of this is there is still no timeline at all. No idea when anyone can reopen their businesses. There's no timeline for when anyone that still has a job can get back to work. There's no timeline for when we can even take a damn walk in the park. The date just keeps moving back farther and farther.
It almost made sense to show things down for a couple of weeks. If this thing has a 14 day incubation period, then slowing down the number of people out and about would cut this thing off at the knees.
But now we're talking about a minimum month and a half. What are we even trying to do now? Stop all diseases from spreading? You can't. That is absolutely impossible.
Are we waiting for a vaccine? That's just stupid. Vaccines aren't 100%. The flu goes around like wildfire every year to people who got the vaccine anyway (literally, I knew a guy who got the vaccine this year and managed to get both strains of the flu). All that gives is weak peace of mind at best.
Are we waiting for better data on what this thing does? So far it's pretty clear, you either are in the vast majority that gets it and it either does nothing to you/hits you like a bad cold, or it knocks you on your ass and you need hospitalization and the MAGA cure. What's more to learn at this point?
Are we waiting for hospitals to empty out to avoid a run? Cause from the sound of things aside from NYC, all of the hospitals in the country are dead quiet. And even in NYC the hospital boats are empty (don't even get me started on why they haven't bothered to triage patients over to those).
So what the hell is it?
You don’t own a business, I’m guessing.
None of us will soon.
I’m a Realtor; so yes, yes I do.
Nope. Even if 2 million people died in the US, the measures being taken now would not be acceptable.
Also, you do realize there is 350 MILLION people in the US; not 350 billion, right?
Yes, of course I realize that. I assumed OP just goofed. But (imo) what I said still applies easily at million instead of billion.
They’re projecting 250,000 deaths WITH stay in place. This guy where I live in Colorado had the same attitude you did and went four wheeling and came home and almost died in the hospital.. you’re being ridiculous.