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grenades_and_ham 160 points ago +163 / -3

Fauci has been in a government advisory capacity for almost 50 years. He's swamp.

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Mr_Dr_Jullian_Dunbar 70 points ago +85 / -15

He wants piles of dead bodies, LOTS of media coverage, high paying government "research grants", and complete power over millions of peoples lives.

When this stuff sinks in, like it has with me you realize how sick these people are.

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yukondave 17 points ago +17 / -0

Remember Fauci is not an Actuary. Why are we asking him anything about probability? He does this All from the safety of being able to blame Trump as well. No accountability.

Here is a really stupid quote from Fauci last week:

“I’ve looked at all the models. I’ve spent a lot of time on the models. They don’t tell you anything. You can’t really rely upon models.”

Fauci is not an Actuary. I dont ask my plumber about farming or my tailor about auto repair. My company sells life insurance. We still sell life insurance. Do you now why. Because you dont ask doctors to do statistical models. Somehow all of the insurance companies knew we would not have 2 million deaths in the US or they would have stopped selling life insurance. Instead they are having bumper sales of life insurance.

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Block_Helen 9 points ago +9 / -0

Good points. But it's also good to remember Greenberg's Law: "Don't ask the barber whether you need a haircut."

The barber will always tell you that you need a haircut.

And the epidemiologist will always tell you that you're going to have an epidemic and it's going to be bad. That is the end point of their usefulness. After that, you gotta get others to tell you what the best steps are. Actuaries can help.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Right. We also need real numbers and current graphs. Models that can be reworked every day. They keep bringing out that same discredited chart. Dr Birx has said the initial models were based on China (?) and Italy. Why not throw out both and use a model based on South Korea and Germany? And include Sweden as a data line for comparison (since they are not shutting down their economy). Then include USA real numbers...

Then, to create actual context, overlay annual flu deaths. This would go a long way to helping everyone have a better perspective, something other than We Are All Gonna Die.

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Block_Helen 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yep. Worst case scenario models haven't come to pass anywhere, even in the hardest-hit regions. Why are we even talking about them?

We're not even counting CV deaths in the same manner as we count flu deaths. Flu deaths are historically underreported.

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Block_Helen 14 points ago +14 / -0

Trump is in a bind right now. Fauci is giving him bad advice and I think Trump knows it. But it would be politically dangerous - and would add to the panic - if Trump dumps him.

I think the way forward is to bring in more people with positive news about HCQ/Z-pack and ivermectin and whatever else is working. Let the good news take the stage. Get the supply ramped up (it's almost there). People want successful treatment - the holdouts will eventually have to give in.

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WinstonSmith1984 13 points ago +14 / -1

Agreed. He is a bureaucrat, through and through, incapable after 50 years of thinking outside the bureaucratic safe space. But I do not believe he wants more people to die.

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OneBreathe 5 points ago +5 / -0

Why not? Lotta of money to be made off death

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WinstonSmith1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

I choose to attribute his incompetence to a life time of bureaucracy in the absence of any proof to the contrary

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JGirl 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't think he wants people to die anymore than the weathermen on the news want people to die when a tornado touches down. But for some reason, they get so invested in tracking it and ratcheting up the tension, that it seems like they forget that real lives are involved, not just eyes on them on the TV screen. I think Fauci is like that.

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WinstonSmith1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

That makes sense as well. A combination of basic bureaucratic culture and "this is what my office does; I'm busy!"

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SordidPontification 3 points ago +3 / -0

The double-blind randomized trials for HCQ are almost laughable at this point. We already have a control. We know what happens when people don't have any kind of intervention other than supportive care. Once they're on a ventilator, their chance is 50/50.

I can understand approaching this with an abundance of caution, but the profile of HCQ is well known. It's been around for a long time. The only question is whether the outcome is better with it than without it. It's also amusing because Remdesivir has less anecdotal experimental data than HCQ because it's an experimental drug. It's also incredibly difficult to manufacture.

This whole thing is frustrating to watch.

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jhutto 1 point ago +1 / -0

He wants to wait years for multi stage double blind trials and long term effects to be known before he can agree to any treatment.

I don't think he wants lots of dead, I just don't think he cares.. He is looking at a different point.. If we push a bad treatment it could harm people. My point and many peoples point is he should run the numbers. He is talking about hundreds of thousands dead through the course of this pandemic.

  1. Hydroxychloroquine and azathioprine have been proven to help, not a 100% fix, but help, with low number of complications. Why not let it?

  2. with 200k projected dead in the next 2 years I have to ask, how many of them would have died anyway? Data out of Germany, Spain, and elsewhere seem to indicate somewhere between 96 to 99% of the dead were already terminally ill.

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Staatssicherheit -31 points ago +19 / -50

Do you actually believe this or are you just blowing off steam?

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1776ThereIsaidIt 41 points ago +44 / -3

Anyone else notice how giddy Gates is over a pandemic?

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nastyn8 23 points ago +25 / -2

Fauci also dono’s to the Clinton Foundation... he is the scum of the earth, and the only embarrassment is that Trump has to allow his little bitch ass to speak at all.

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Staatssicherheit -44 points ago +10 / -54

That says enough, indeed. I don't think you are joking. You are being serious. That's frightening.

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Bouldabassed 18 points ago +21 / -3

To a spectator who has no specific opinion, I can't say you're offering what I would consider to be a compelling case. Just going around like "wow, you really think that? That's scary" makes you look like a complete tool.

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Staatssicherheit -12 points ago +11 / -23

Maybe. I'm just tired of arguing ridiculous points like Birx is evil because she knows Bill Gates. Or Fauci wants to see piles of dead bodies. If that makes me look like a tool, so be it.

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Bouldabassed 12 points ago +15 / -3

I understand the exasperation, but it only makes you look like a tool when you dont provide anything to counter it. Being so supposedly offput at how dumb someone's opinion is only to leave no reasoning isn't a good luck. If their opinion is so dumb, it must be quite easy to disprove.

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Arwyn3x 32 points ago +34 / -2

The very least Fauci wants is to limit the medicine uses against Covid-19 to patent medicine produced by companies he favors, so that we have to pay $1000/dose instead of $0.50/dose. That and enough deaths that we all agree to get the Gates/Soros vaccine.

The least, the very least, a well intended person would have said was "lets give it a try" - Fauci especially, since he knows this combination of medicine has been used against viral epidemics and has worked.

And further, Fauci knows Doctor Didier Roualt is a world renown specialist on communicable diseases and not a voo-doo doctor whose peer reviewed studies are a hell of a lot more then anecdotal.

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OneBreathe 3 points ago +3 / -0

BIG. PHARMA. FAUCI.

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Rodrigo 1 point ago +2 / -1

WELL SAID! As the resident Congressional representative of Islamic expansionism said, "It's all about the Benjamins!"

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Staatssicherheit -15 points ago +9 / -24

At least you are providing a motive other than "he wants to see piles of dead bodies."

Ok, financial motives. That's reasonable. How much money does Fauci stand to gain from making the $1000 drug the standard of care over the $0.50 drug? Is he a stock holder in Giled? How does he actually gain money? Beyond that, is he so evil that he would cause mass deaths in order to make some money?

The people you dislike are not 1-demensional evil, mustache twirling villains. Even China's evil acts are rooted in non-evil causes (wanting to protect their export economy for the good of their citizens). Start viewing people as people and stop ascribing movie villain motives to their actions.

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jigglyp33n 6 points ago +7 / -1

People used to believe in evil, that's how we got motivated to fuck up the Nazis.

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Block_Helen 3 points ago +3 / -0

In other words, imaginary evil that only special people ever get the chance to fight.

Instead of an everyday occurrence that we all need to fight.

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Bouldabassed 6 points ago +8 / -2

You are way too optimistic. While I can agree people are way too quick to jump to one dimensionality, there are some shitty people out there. No one is truly one dimensional, but people can get themselves to do and believe just about anything in exchange for self gain.

I'm not saying I buy the whole Fauci is bought by big pharma and will sacrifice thousands of lives for a big payoff, but dismissing it outright for no reason other than "no one would be that evil" is simply naive.

Similar to communist China. You really think that regime thinks much of its authoritarianism is actually for the greater good of its citizenry? That's laughable. Most of it is to quell rebellion and maintain their stranglehold on power. The CCP knows if they are ever ousted it will mean the heads of the party leaders paraded on pikes through the streets.

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Staatssicherheit -6 points ago +5 / -11

Would you sacrifice thousands of lives for a big payoff? I wouldn't. I don't think anyone here would. And I don't think Fauci would either. Is that being too optimistic?

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jamesfinmadison 8 points ago +10 / -2

If you spend your entire lifetime viewing these pandemics as mere acts of nature that can't be controlled either way, then yes, people being elevated to positions of power via politics and money that would be less idealistic and more narcissistic, system friendly, makes sense.

Your naive world view is that there is an organizational hierarchy not controlled by politics, power, money, and human nature drivers.

Trump is an enemy of the system for that reason. If you can't see the system, well, why are you here?

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Bouldabassed 4 points ago +5 / -1

It's not a bad take and I would be inclined to agree but I do think it's a bit weak of grounds to be so offput by the opposite opinion so as to say its frightening.

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Staatssicherheit 1 point ago +3 / -2

Attacking Fauci with with wild, outlandish accusations (he wants to see piles of dead bodies) just makes people want to defend him. And insulates him from actual valid criticism.

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sharthappens 4 points ago +8 / -4

Any power the government has is not good. We've seen it time and time again. Stop giving so much credit to your keepers.

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Staatssicherheit -3 points ago +8 / -11

No. I will always assume people are rationale human beings with rationale motives that does not involve being evil just to be evil.

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WinstonSmith1984 2 points ago +3 / -1

Not sure why you are being down voted to hell for a comment like that.

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ThirteenPercenter -4 points ago +7 / -11

This is a pro trump group. Trump is in the government and has lots of power. You’re nuts.

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DJTrump2020 5 points ago +6 / -1

You sound as stupid as the people that say "you can't be anti-establishment and a Trump supporter, Trump is the establishment". No, Trump is in the government because we put him there to fight the government. We want less government. We don't care if Trump is the head of the government, that doesn't automatically mean we support the entire government, he was a grenade we threw in there. People like Fauci, people who have become career bureaucrats, are the deepstate. They're who we oppose.

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cjcivicx 2 points ago +2 / -0

Way off topic, but TESD Fan?

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kag-2020- 16 points ago +16 / -0

The CDC is literally advising doctors to presume they have the China Flu. Their data is laughably gamed.

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Staatssicherheit -6 points ago +3 / -9

Are there signs and symptoms of covid that doctors can presumptively diagnose covid while they are waiting for the swab results? Or should they wait for the swab results before giving HCQ?

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kag-2020- 11 points ago +12 / -1

I'm talking specifically about cause of death. If you were on your death bed and had a cough, they are being told by the CDC to presume they had it. No test result required. Completely fake data and they use it to destroy our country.

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Staatssicherheit -15 points ago +4 / -19

Do you actually believe it's as simplistic as having a simple cough on your death bed? It's other symptoms including fever. It's CT scans showing interstitial pneumonia. Doctors aren't idiots.

I've read their guidance. It said to go ahead and put covid on the death certificate if the doctor thinks it is covid, pending the swab results. After the results come back, they will make any corrections.

There are actually people here who thinks Fauci wants piles of dead bodies because he is friends with Bill Gates (who presumably loves death too). Which is fine. I'm more concerned about the Hodgkinson types who would act on these beliefs.

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Gingersmom2009 7 points ago +8 / -1

Fauci consistently either downplays, or switches gears and doesn't reply to SPECIFIC questions regarding the HCQ/Z-pak treatment. He has the results and approval of the global medical community - but somehow he can't go all in. There is no money to be made in cheap decades-old generics. And now Ivermectin is being shown to kill the virus in 48 hours or less. COVID 19 may in fact be a parasitic infection and not a virus. (Malaria is parasitic as well.). Fauci and Birx are not on the right side of this - and they need go.

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Vegans4Trump 15 points ago +16 / -1

He works for China. He was in charge of the aids crisis and messed that up the same way he's messing this up. China used this virus to get ahead of us because our economy was doing great and there's was suffering. And Fauci is in charge of it

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Ghostof_PatrickHenry 13 points ago +13 / -0

He is a Hillary Clinton synchophant.

He cannot be trusted, in his current role.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 94 points ago +95 / -1

Luckily our courageous President is hydroxychloroquine’s best cheerleader.

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Mr_Dr_Jullian_Dunbar 63 points ago +63 / -0

Absolutely.

Someone NEEDS to get this idea to GEOTUS as a recommendation:

  • catch it early on
  • drive up testing facilities that people dont have to leave there car -wait 15 minutes for the tests to come back
  • they come up positive give them a "grab bag" of the wuflu cocktail (aka Trump pills)
  • tell them to go home and call the clinic in 72 hours

Then TURN THE FUCKING ECONOMY BACK ON - THIS SHIT WAS A PSYOP FROM THE GETGO

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HockeyMom4Trump 20 points ago +20 / -0

This is the plan we need in in place. Let’s fire Fauci and get some people with common sense to run this show.

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Whoopies_tds 19 points ago +19 / -0

I hear-by nominate this Pede as Surgeon General of TD.win 👆

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NotProgCensored 3 points ago +3 / -0

Seconded

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Kanxo 3 points ago +3 / -0

The current problem with this plan are the first two steps. In my area (Southern CA, highly populated) testing results are STILL taking 7-10 days.

No idea why or how this is even possible but it's true. Where are all those 15 minutes machines going? Or even the 24-48 hour tests? I'm guessing it's a bottleneck at the state level because... well, CA obviously. That or maybe they need to deplete the 7-10 day tests first?

So if I ever get symptoms I have to go to the hospital to get these $1 drugs? I'm not waiting to get on a ventilator or 7-10 days before I try something that highly likely will work at the mild stage but what other options are there? Reality sucks.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

Call your doctor, your PCP. Smaller hospital pharmacies have a better chance of finding hydroxychloroquine pills than your local CVS. Get a prescription now, get in the queue for pills before you need them. They are currently very hard to find. I had to call four pharmacies before finding any after my PCP got me my prescription.

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MammasAlwaysRIGHT 3 points ago +3 / -0

I would also like the answer to this question.

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decaptcha 43 points ago +43 / -0

We would truly be screwed without President Trump having our backs at every turn.

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minotaurbeach 20 points ago +20 / -0

exactly, he earned my in-person vote

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thuggishruggishtrump 7 points ago +7 / -0

Yep, I've never voted before but I am this year, I can only imagine where we'll be if Hilary were president, hell we'll be answering to the one world government of the United Nations at this point.

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xiao_maga_part2 5 points ago +5 / -0

If we had a typical Republican-cuck in his place the media and dems would have eaten him alive by now.

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Mrsattorney 22 points ago +22 / -0

Nobody would even know about hydroxychloroquine/Zpak if POTUS hadn't spoken up to try to save lives.

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NotProgCensored 2 points ago +2 / -0

Very nice.

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avalonrose 6 points ago +6 / -0

He's got to make a mandate or executive order though, for all these jackhole medical people to be forced to use it when it's asked for. The epitome of evil not to give someone a medicine that has been proven to help. Off label prescriptions happen ALL THE TIME. Potus needs to address this issue ASAP, like today. And he needs to bring someone highly respected in the medical field with him on stage. It needs to be a BIG DEAL that all doctors are now advised to use it immediately on EVERYONE with a positive test.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

And open up use for all medical workers who need a preventative therapy to keep them as safe as possible.

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Reddit2016 43 points ago +43 / -0

I wish we had some real reporters who would ask him this question on live TV. But we don't.

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Keiichi81 18 points ago +18 / -0

It's baffling to me how people here can continue to defend this guy as if he isn't Deep State swamp through and through.

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xiao_maga_part2 7 points ago +7 / -0

Instead we get that bitch asking Trump to clarify what the word "our" means.

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Cyer6 4 points ago +4 / -0

None of them are asking ANYONE about he HCQ, even though Trump has been pushing it hard lately. He's trying to make it a daily subject even though the press wants to dismiss it.

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HockeyMom4Trump 31 points ago +31 / -0

The whole thing is weird. We have shut down the entire state of MN. Closed beaches and pools for the summer. Destroyed families, Ruined our economy. And for what? We’ve had 24 deaths in our state from this virus. 24. The median age of the fatalities? 86.

Now I value life and I am sad for those victims and their families, but the response to this virus seems out of proportion. Death caused by alcohol is higher, and yet even during this pandemic we’ve kept liquor stores open because the Governor deems those essential.

I smell a rat. This whole thing is shady.

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PainCakes 6 points ago +6 / -0

I agree with your sentiment but I would agree that liquor stores are essential. Alcohol withdrawal is one of the few cases where the withdrawal itself is deadly as it can progress to an often fatal condition called delirium tremens that leads to severe neurological damage. Alcohol withdrawal is a very, very delicate process and abruptly cutting off millions of people can be a huge problem both for the people themselves but also the health care system.

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brother_red 5 points ago +5 / -0

I used to think Prohibition was simply the product of a bunch of goodie two-shoes churchy types.

Now, I've grown up and realized that alcohol and some people do not mix. Alcohol is responsible for millions of lives ruined - both the alcoholic and their loved ones.

I don't believe in prohibition - of anything - but I now see where the prohibitionists were coming from.

President Trump does not drink alcohol - and I am following his example. I don't miss it one bit, and in fact, my life is much better because of not drinking.

When you step back a bit, you can see just how insidious the whole drinking culture actually is.

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thuggishruggishtrump 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yet those same type of people who drink their lives away shame me because I use CBD.

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brother_red 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's all fun and games until you wake up one day in your thirties and you look like you're in your late fifties. Especially women. Alcoholism and too much alcohol party life young, means old and ugly looking much sooner. Or just dead from destroyed liver.

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thuggishruggishtrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thank goodness I never really enjoyed drinking much (I drink every now and then, like once every couple of months), even the few times I do drink I can see how people get caught up in it. I'll stick to hemp flowers.

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HockeyMom4Trump 4 points ago +4 / -0

Oh, I don’t disagree. I am just trying to say that the government does not seem too concerned with deaths caused by alcohol, which are pretty high, yet for Covid-19 they have shut down tons of businesses and the death rate is not as high as many other causes of death.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 50 points ago +50 / -0

rest of headline:

Note to Dr. Fauci: Stop Downplaying Hydroxychloroquine... It’s the World’s Go-To Drug yet only 27% of US Doctors Using It. Fauci May Not recommend it until 12 to 18 months from now!

ALSO:

  • Replace your worst case Models with latest info to reflect current numbers on graphs shown;

  • Overlay current & past Annual Flu numbers to give context to current Covid-19 numbers;

  • Remind the public that death rates are below 1% here and may end up being as low as 0.28% (according to your own paper published last week)

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Imransgarage 5 points ago +5 / -0

TFW millions of pedes are comparing to flu numbers that have already had the same issues as corona does now.

If they do this for corona, why do we not think that this same situation already applies to the flu numbers we have to compare to now?

It’s the same picture my pede.

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dakin116 5 points ago +5 / -0

Main difference is they don't run a flu ticker 24/7 on news outlets

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Cyer6 3 points ago +3 / -0

It is all in the media hype and energy they can get from something. The media can only go so long with a crisis before people start to get over-stimulated with the same thing every day. I'd say most folks are now sick of seeing 24/7 CV. I've tuned it out completely and just watch Trump's conferences. The yearly flu will never do what this CV has done for public interest and concern.

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Imransgarage 1 point ago +1 / -0

There was more than you think. Every pharmacy in the country+.

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AbrahamLincoln 36 points ago +36 / -0

Fauci isn't interested in any cure, he wants people to hide under their beds for 34 months instead.

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Gyrfalcon 11 points ago +11 / -0

At least thru the election.

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NotProgCensored 5 points ago +5 / -0

Boom!

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Work2gethrBiglyOrDie 3 points ago +3 / -0

He wants a "vaccine" that can't exist because this kind of virus mutates faster than the flu. It sounds like dystopian scifi, but they want you to get used to the govt forcing things into your body, eventually leading to things like brain chips. Similar to how they wanted to drug a country into being more accepting of "migrants."

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uvontheterrible 33 points ago +36 / -3

One thing that concerns me is that we've been using this drug in a clinical trial in NYC, supposedly on over 1,000 patients, for over a week now, and there has been zero information about any results.

Obviously there won't be any official data from the trial for quite some time, however, if the drug works as well as some have claimed, I would think we would be hearing tons of anecdotal stories from doctors and patients about people getting better.

Something just doesn't add up.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 43 points ago +43 / -0

There are tons of anecdotal stories. 2-4 doctors come on Laura Ingraham’s Show every night with them. See especially Dr. Stephen Smith. Plenty more on the internet. My own doctor (CT) is using it on me...

What concerns me is how Fauci is ignoring the World as well as these half dozen hospitals’ glowing reports. The drug is keeping people off respirators if given early enough. And the vast majority of people on respirators are dying. (An under-reported fact.) The drugs needed to sedate respirator patients suppresses immune responses in very negative ways.

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uvontheterrible 10 points ago +12 / -2

I don't really watch, cable shows, pretty much just look at what gets posted here. I've seen plenty of anecdotal stories, but not from the NYC trial. I would expect to see a lot more from there since it's close to home and such a large number of patients all being treated at once.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 20 points ago +20 / -0

Another worry: even knowing about the current study of 1500 NYC patients, the six hospitals using it in addition (with fab results), and the World’s doctors calling it their go-to drug... Dr. Fauci is still saying 12-18 months and talking about double blind studies blah blah.... as people are dying.

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HockeyMom4Trump 6 points ago +6 / -0

Double blind studies. So they are just letting half the people suffer who don’t get the Trump pills.

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Dominion_Weyoun 0 points ago +1 / -1

What 6 hospitals are using it?

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MusicToMyEars [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Smith Center for Infectious Diseases, Lennox Hill, Columbia Presbyterian, Plainview, Mount Sinai (also has begun convalescent plasma treatments), Stamford Hospital. Many more are involved in current study, I think 22?

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Dominion_Weyoun 1 point ago +2 / -1

Thanks, i only knew about Lennox

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GernBlanston1 14 points ago +14 / -0

If something/anything works the MSM will not mention it. It is that simple.

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Shakakka99 11 points ago +11 / -0

and there has been zero information about any results.

It takes time to doctor up phony results. Lost ballots however, can be found easily enough in the truck of any Dem's car.

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HockeyMom4Trump 6 points ago +7 / -1

Minnesota. Norm Coleman v Al Franken. Ballots were found in the trunk of a car. Almost all of them were for Al. Election stolen.

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WinnerChickenDinner 9 points ago +9 / -0

Henry Ford Health Systems is doing a trial of hydroxychloroquine on Detroit first responders as a preventative measure.

https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/04/hfhs-leads-national-study-to-determine-drugs-effectiveness-in-preventing-covid19

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BuckyKatt60 5 points ago +5 / -0

You might want to check out Steve Bannon's Warroom: Panedemic youtubes. They interviewed a renowned oncologist from NYC who is working the front lines on this and he has said some hospitals that have instituted standards and protocols regarding Plaquniel, Zinc and Z-packs are seeing a very significant success rate. These successful hopitals need to get their standard of care protocols out to the rest of NYC and the country (if they haven't already). Start standardizing!

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Reddit2016 26 points ago +26 / -0

They keep pushing this vaccine BS, when they have medication that basically cures the Chy-na flu...what am I missing??

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HockeyMom4Trump 10 points ago +10 / -0

The $$$$$

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Work2gethrBiglyOrDie 2 points ago +2 / -0

The power etc. Go to banned dot video and watch the video with the big gas mask.

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Bax101 24 points ago +24 / -0

Fauci is Gates right hand man in this plan. He is a plant and wants to push the vaccine.

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Awesome 12 points ago +12 / -0

I think this is the most likely scenario, I think Dr Fauci is/was on his board too, plus the massive vaccine investments from Bill Gates into 7 vaccines lately for coronavirus.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 24 points ago +24 / -0

FYI - Columbia University in NYC has just begun a study of hydroxychloroquine as a preventative. They will give it to families with one at least one infected family member and see if it helps contain the spread. Good news.

I think we will need 1 trillion doses soon. It’s the cheapest and most accessible drug that is also effective in most cases.

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Work2gethrBiglyOrDie 3 points ago +3 / -0

Shouldn't they be adding zinc? What kind is best?

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MAGAlikethis 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's what the doctor in New Rochelle says. According to him, the zithromax helps treat additional problems, while the hydroxychloroquine allows the zinc to be taken in by the cells at a higher percentage.

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Imransgarage -1 points ago +2 / -3

It won’t slow the spread it treats the symptoms.

Let’s be realistic about this.

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MAGAlikethis 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes, let's. It allows your immune system to kill the virus. It doesn't just treat the symptoms.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

...which in turn slows the spread. Especially the spread of death...

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Imransgarage 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ok it’s not that I’m not optimistic about it helping but I have seen nothing about it keeping from spreading. We can be optimistic and still logical.

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MAGAlikethis 1 point ago +1 / -0

Logically, there are always X amount of people living in each square mile of our country. This is directly related to the rate at which is spreads. This is why there is a wave.

Also, once your immune system beats the virus, you can't catch it again. And this is why although we will see additional waves of covid-19 later, they will not be near the size of what we are seeing now.

There's your logic.

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VDLPolo 23 points ago +23 / -0

But N95 masks are for carpenters and painters dr Fauci. Don’t you think you’re using them off label?

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PocketPosse 23 points ago +23 / -0

I am 100% confident in this drug for the simple reason that ABC David Muir hasnt dramatically told me that the Trump drug kills people for looking at it. They made news out of fish cleaner and that 15 person Chinese study, so I know they are itching to cheer for the cure's failure. They usually attack him even when he is right, so he must be apocalyptically right if they are silent.

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Supersaiyanbroly737 20 points ago +20 / -0

Fuck that cuck.

He was on record downplaying the Chinese virus a month ago. Then, in one of the briefings he also defended hls good buddy, the corrupt CHO director Tedros.

Fuck that guy.

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JudicialDredd 20 points ago +20 / -0

Fauci is a puppet.

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NostalgicFuturist 20 points ago +20 / -0

Yeah, here he is being alarmist and obstructionist (re hydrochloroquine), just like the MSM. Scarf Lady is also sketchy as hell. What kind of "expert" would say, “This is the moment to not be going to the grocery store"? As if every grocery store in America had delivery service. As if it wouldn't cause huge backlogs and long delays even where it IS available, while families go without food. Tone-deaf out-of-touch elitism. There's also plenty of suspect shit in her background:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSfP8sXtMbk

How many times are we going to see swampy people appointed to positions of power in our President's administration? Priebus, and Wray, and Kelly... The list goes on. I get that DC is 95% Swamp and good men and women are hard to find.. But why did Pence--the Silver Fox!--appoint two more Swampy Globalists? How are such people "qualified" when their backgrounds are so sketchy? Are there no non-compromised alternatives?

WTF

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HockeyMom4Trump 9 points ago +9 / -0

They need to start hiring more people from middle America that have not been living in the DC swamps.

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StumpSmasher 4 points ago +4 / -0

The sneaky members of the Swamp pretend NOT to be Swamp.

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NostalgicFuturist 19 points ago +19 / -0

Should you trust a man who fawns over Hillary and praises the director of WHO, a corrupt communist terrorist without a medical degree who deliberately caused many deaths in his own country and spreads lies for the country that owns his ass (China)?

The advice he gives is about as trustworthy as he is.

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MamaLlama4DJT2020 18 points ago +18 / -0

It’s been around forever, we know it’s safe, and it’s cheap. That’s why they’re not pushing it, there’s no profit in it.

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ZEEOHHSIX 16 points ago +16 / -0

I took that drug for months on deployment as a just in case type deal. No side affects just annoying. Like Trump has said what do we have to lose!?

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MusicToMyEars [S] 14 points ago +14 / -0

And yet he’s getting his own bobble head...

https://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/10873900-181/dr-faucis-face-will-soon

And may be voted People’s Mag Sexiest Man Alive. What a world...

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HockeyMom4Trump 4 points ago +4 / -0

Ew. This is like Sports Illustrated destroying their swimsuit edition by throwing obese women in there.

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XirWokeMasterCuck 14 points ago +14 / -0

Please tell her (Hillary Clinton) that we all love her and are very proud to know her.

Warm regards, Tony

Anthony S. Fauci, MD

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MaxineWaters4Prez 11 points ago +11 / -0

Yeah don't use the established, cheap, safe, and nearly 100% effective drug we already have. Use some new, expensive, untested, and rushed experimental bullshit.

These fucking people...

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AngelMark 9 points ago +9 / -0

Why does Pres have this Hillary cunt licker up there with him at all ESPECIALLY if the Hydrochloroquine IS working??

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minotaurbeach 9 points ago +9 / -0

There is something swampy about this guy, like he has a hard-on for a higher death rate. Would not surprise me if he already has a stash of hydroxychioroquine for himself.

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Hillandbill 9 points ago +9 / -0

He's part of Big Pharma.

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Jabblemonkey1 9 points ago +9 / -0

Fauci is a swamp creature.

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RandomBoomer 8 points ago +9 / -1

If Fauci gets Covid you can bet Hydroxychloroquine will immediately be given to him and his family.

Hypocrite.

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Shakakka99 8 points ago +8 / -0

These things might assuage panic and save lives. Fauci's tongue still tastes too much like Hillary's asshole for him to do this.

A little too fucking coincidental this happened during an election year, btw. And only after it became apparent the left has not even close to a viable candidate.

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EnlightenedResident 7 points ago +7 / -0

Fauci is a little fucking bitch, such fem energy....

Re open the economy, keep NYC shut down

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mykillk 7 points ago +7 / -0

Holy shit, 51% of US doctors rated "nothing" as the best COVID-19 therapy.

They're listening to the MSM and it's killing people. Apparently TDS has infected the medical community too.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

And so are blue state governors.

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AloweiseEdelHuberIII 7 points ago +7 / -0

Imagine if the people that trump brought on stage openly pushed HCQ. We would probably already be out of social distancing but we are going to continue doing the opposite until the little fucker is content.

Come on Trump kick the mother fucker out.

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NoMoreLies 7 points ago +7 / -0

Gee Dr. Fauci, I thought vaccines only prevent illness, not cure it. Maybe we should just give all the sick people vaccinations and see how it works out?

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Kekbewithus 6 points ago +6 / -0

“It's worth noting that Fauci has not spent any money to launch trials for hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine but has spent money on trials for Gilead's Remdesivir.

Incidentally, chloroquine is about .04 cents per dose internationally, which would come out to less than $1 per course, whereas analysts are predicting Remdesivir will cost around $1,000 per course.”

Fauci is a snake, it’s obvious where his motives lie.

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Pirate_Lafitte 6 points ago +6 / -0

This will all be over in a year and a call needs to be made now. If you are a general in the middle of a raging battle, you can't wait 12 months to decide to take a hill.

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RlzJohnnyM 6 points ago +6 / -0

THIS FUCKER IS IN THE POCKET OF GATES

WHO WANTS TO MAKE BILLIONS FROM A VACCINE

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Not_Even_a_Dentist 6 points ago +6 / -0

If I catch the Wu-Flu, I want the Hydrox, and if my doctor says no, I'm firing xer, and getting a new doctor.

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ubit 6 points ago +7 / -1

So far there are no consequences for blocking this medicine.

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IYDKMIGTHTKY 5 points ago +5 / -0

They are making bobble-heads of this guy. It's getting a little culty.

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HockeyMom4Trump 3 points ago +3 / -0

Why would anyone want a Fauci bobble head? Seems like a weird business move.

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BetsyRossRocks 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, they're made in CHY-NA

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Malfunction 5 points ago +5 / -0

Studies have suggested that coronavirus vaccines carry the risk of what is known as vaccine enhancement, where instead of protecting against infection, the vaccine can actually make the disease worse

So like a double yeti?

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Anyslogan2 5 points ago +5 / -0

Tucker summed him up very well. He is a ‘worst case scenario’ government official who has the luxury of not having to care about how this is affecting the economy or the future of this country. His job is secure. Trump has to balance safety with the survival of an entire nation and in some sense, the world.

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AloweiseEdelHuberIII 4 points ago +4 / -0

And here we are touting worst week to come. People are falling and dying of head injuries and it’s being shown as covid.

https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/coronavirus/2020/03/2nd-coronavirus-patient-dies-in-lehigh-valley-he-was-61-and-from-warren-county.html

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MusicToMyEars [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

A baby in CT died of SIDS, a week old. Had the virus on her. Headline read “First Child Dirs with Covid-19 in State”. No respiratory distress. No fever. Found dead in her crib.

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Khryn 5 points ago +5 / -0

These two sections are the most damning piece of evidence Dr. Fauci should be kicked from the Trump train:

It's worth noting that Fauci has not spent any money to launch trials for hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine but has spent money on trials for Gilead's Remdesivir.

Incidentally, chloroquine is about .04 cents per dose internationally, which would come out to less than $1 per course, whereas analysts are predicting Remdesivir will cost around $1,000 per course.

  • Huh. Sounds like someone has their hands in the wallets of big Pharma.
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TrumpTrainBot 2 points ago +2 / -0

WE JUST CAN'T STOP WINNING, FOLKS! THE TRUMP TRAIN JUST GOT 10 BILLION MPH FASTER!

CURRENT SPEED: 358,589,385,117,000 MPH!

At that rate, it would take approximately 4.68 years to travel to the Andromeda Galaxy (2.5 million light-years)!

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nothingberg 4 points ago +4 / -0

Zinc Ionophore

I wish they'd start talking about Quercetin, EGCG and Zinc. These work in exactly the same way as Hydroxychloroquine--they are zinc ionophores, carriers of zinc into the cytoplasm of cells to inhibit the rdrp enzyme the virus uses to replicate itself. Here this is explained in detail with NIH citations regarding quercetin

How Zinc ionophores (like Hydroxy|chloroquine, Quercetin) Inhibit the The Human Coronavirus from Replicating (and fight Cancer cells)


Spike S-protein binding

Quercetin actually works in 2 ways against coronavirus. As a zinc carrier, and also an entry inhibitor, according to the study that used IBM SUMMIT supercomputer to find the substances that bind to the spike S-protein of the virus inhibiting interaction with ACE2 receptors on cells, which coronavirus uniquely targets

Early research on existing drug compounds via supercomputing could combat coronavirus

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MusicToMyEars [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Excellent info. Thank you!

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christianknight 4 points ago +4 / -0

Fauci has toes to the Clintons. He is swamp.

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dakin116 4 points ago +4 / -0

Dude hasn't actually practiced medicine since the 80's, right?

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Genericwhitemale 2 points ago +2 / -0

the guy is 79 years old, why he’s up there and calling the shots still is beyond me

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HockeyMom4Trump 4 points ago +4 / -0

If this were Game of Thrones, Fauci would be Littlefinger

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DX5_ 4 points ago +4 / -0

The one thing that frustrates me with this administration are the abundance of deep state advisers. Fauci is just one man in a long list of problematic people we've dealt with over the years. They should have dismissed him after learning about his relationship with Hillary Clinton. Does praising Hillary make someone incapable of an advisory role? Technically no, but 95% of the time yes.