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Mrsattorney 58 points ago +59 / -1

I was going to post a sarcastic comment about "anecdotal" evidence, but I'm so disgusted that we are dragging our feet on using these life-saving meds, I don't even want to joke about it.

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Azarak 20 points ago +20 / -0

I as well. Endless deaths are happening which equates to murder in my book.

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NotProgCensored 12 points ago +12 / -0

Looking at current studies I can't find one on AHZ or even Hydroxychloroquine by itself, most are "Not Yet Recruiting." I found some that are "Recruiting" but only one in the US. I find several studies being done on Remdesivir, the drug that costs $1,000 instead of $20. It's kinda weird. https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=Hydroxychloroquine&cond=covid-19&map=NA%3AUS

Edit: China completed a Hydroxychloroquine only study.

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DisgustedByMisleadia 8 points ago +9 / -1

There was a researcher at the University of MN that was running a randomized hydroxychloroquine trial. He was doing it all by mail.

A couple of weeks ago, he reported that he was having trouble finding volunteers:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/minnesota-doctor-engaged-fda-approved-hydroxychloroquine-trials-lacks/story?id=69793007

A 'pede posted that he was able to get into this trial, and I don't think he was in MN.

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leing15 2 points ago +2 / -0

he reported that he was having trouble finding volunteers

It's no wonder since the media keeps saying that hydroxychloroquine is unproven and dangerous.

How dangerous can it be if people take it even as preventive measure against malaria and medical personnel are taking it to prevent against covid-19?

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DisgustedByMisleadia 3 points ago +4 / -1

One of the prerequisites is a confirmed positive COVID-19 test. That's hard to get in some states, unless you are in the hospital. Hopefully, that will change soon.

He was running two trials: one for first responders and medical staff, and a second for "anyone". I think the article said he had about 400 for the first one, and only 25 for the second one.

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Dominion_Weyoun 4 points ago +5 / -1

Democrats would rather americans die

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WeThoughtYouWasAToad 4 points ago +4 / -0

....which is why Sheikh Bill Gates wants you to stay at home, indefinitely, until he and his cronies can buy up all the biomed companies and make $$$$$$ off of the "vaccine" - which will be, if they have their way, REQUIRED for admission to schools, hospitals, courts, sporting events, grocery stores, etc. So basically unless you want to never leave your property again, get the shot, bigot.

Have a court date but don't have your vaccine? No admittance, warrant issued, auto-arrest, immediate jail sentence. No trial until you get your vaccine, antibodies be damned ("it could mutate in the future, and come back"). Wonder why the DOJ was asking for the power to lock people up indefinitely? Now you know why.

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LoneStarWinner 35 points ago +35 / -0

Key paragraphs:

“ Hydroxychloroquine should be administered at the very beginning of the disease, from the 2nd to the 4th day of the appearance of the first symptoms, such as fever, cough, runny nose and breathing more than 22 times per minute. People who manifest this condition should receive the medication at home. The drug is inexpensive and has few side effects.

The Ministry of Health focuses on testing, which can be a mistake, due to the need to treat quickly. The test takes time without taking action; it is an obstacle disguised as treatment. The focus should be tomography, soon after suspicion (cough / fever). If it is altered (ground glass), the doctor should use Hydroxychloroquine.”

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mykillk 20 points ago +20 / -0

And our health system is doing the complete opposite. Not treating until test results come in.

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PewPew_ThaDuK 19 points ago +19 / -0

They listened to the doctor from Hannity!

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Jabron661 18 points ago +19 / -1

I am very much thinking it is time for President Trump to mandate this, use his emergency powers to their fullest extent.

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DisgustedByMisleadia 3 points ago +7 / -4

No, it's the doctor's decision. The best Trump can do is clear the obstacles. He did so with the FDA's emergency use authorization to release the drug (and an analogue) from the strategic national stockpile.

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sharthappens 18 points ago +20 / -2

Tell that to the governors who banned the use of it. Fuck off with that shit.

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ArchieInTheBunker -4 points ago +1 / -5

No governors have banned its use.

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Jabron661 6 points ago +6 / -0

Ok maybe not mandate, that was the wrong word, but he can apply pressure to the medical community to get the wheels rolling, and get public awareness out, so many people just listen to NBC and they don't get the president's message without bias of some kind.

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Dominion_Weyoun 0 points ago +2 / -2

The thousands of dead Americans thank you for not wanting them to have survived. Fuck off china shill

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Trumpthumper 1 point ago +1 / -0

Everyone I don’t like is a shill! Reeee

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ProphetOfKek 6 points ago +6 / -0

Tamiflu is a joke. You might get better a whole day sooner. But you might also hallucinate, have seizures, or have severe mood disturbance.

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WalterEKurtz 17 points ago +17 / -0

Hydroxychloroquine + Doxycycline + Zinc is the better cocktail for the elderly.

Doxycycline

https://archive.is/JtlfG

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The_Litehaus_Abides 6 points ago +6 / -0

Doxycycline

Holy crap, I've got a bottle of this stuff in my safe!

Had a bad dry cough last November and my doc prescribed it, but then I decided to ride it out without the antibiotic.

I'm guessing the drug that'll now be hard to get is the hydroxychloroquine because Big Pharma and Democrats are against it.

(Big Pharma wants money and Dems want dead people)

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Kolob 4 points ago +4 / -0

I do that too. I almost never take prescriptions, but I fill them and put them in the safein case of emergency

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HockeyMom4Trump 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thanks for this. I appreciate the update in the Trump Pill option.

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DisgustedByMisleadia 2 points ago +4 / -2

Thanks for posting this! I had read about the risks of azithromycin for people with certain heart conditions, and was hoping someone would find an alternate treatment.

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The_Emperor 12 points ago +12 / -0

Treat early! Use a fire extinguisher when blaze is small, then you don't have to call out the Pumpers, Ladders, and other Fire Trucks! You wait...building collapses!

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DisgustedByMisleadia 11 points ago +12 / -1

There's a really important point in this article:

Hydroxychloroquine should be administered at the very beginning of the disease, from the 2nd to the 4th day of the appearance of the first symptoms, such as fever, cough, runny nose and breathing more than 22 times per minute. People who manifest this condition should receive the medication at home. The drug is inexpensive and has few side effects.

The Ministry of Health focuses on testing, which can be a mistake, due to the need to treat quickly. The test takes time without taking action; it is an obstacle disguised as treatment. The focus should be tomography, soon after suspicion (cough / fever). If it is altered (ground glass), the doctor should use Hydroxychloroquine.

They aren't waiting for a positive COVID-19 test. They are instead going right to a CT scan and starting treatment if it shows damage to the lungs. I presume the "ground glass" refers to the appearance of the damage to the lungs.

Unfortunately, sending someone for a CT isn't instant unless you are at a hospital. We may have the advantage of faster testing, once the Cepheid and Abbott test kits are widely distributed. Those report results in 45 minutes and 15 minutes. But, the real advantage is the systems are already widely deployed in the US, in doctor's offices and clinics. Right now, a large part of our testing bottleneck is the requirement to ship the sample to a lab. Even though they might have a high-throughput Roche system, it's still a bottleneck.

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Warskull 4 points ago +4 / -0

Could they spot the lung damage with an X-ray? Those are more widely available and a lot of places will get you same day turn around.

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Kolob 3 points ago +3 / -0

You can hear lung damage with a stethoscope

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DisgustedByMisleadia 0 points ago +1 / -1

My doc has an X-ray in his clinic. But, I don't know if X-ray has sufficient resolution to spot early damage to the lungs.

There's an MD that posts here from time to time. Maybe he will chime in.

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LoneStarDangler 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is my line of work.

CT is better, but normal chest x-rays often work for the initial screening.

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DisgustedByMisleadia 0 points ago +1 / -1

Thanks for following up. I was hopeful, but since the article specifically mentioned a CT, I suspected this was the case.

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kag-2020- 10 points ago +10 / -0

Watch our Governor's/ amateur medical practitioners threaten to arrest people for doing this treatment.

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SimPilot 3 points ago +5 / -2

They already did that.

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Pirate_Patriot 10 points ago +10 / -0

US needs to ramp up production and allow doctors to prescribe hydroxychloroquine+azithromycine+zinc at the onset of symptoms. Waiting for test results to come back may be too late.

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T-Bear 4 points ago +4 / -0

^^^THIS^^^

This will be the big bottle neck, not the doctors. Not whether the doctors will prescribe this treatment, but whether the local pharmacies have adequate stocks of the treatment on hand to meet the additional demand, over and above that needed for meeting the malaria and lupus prescriptions.

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Kanxo 8 points ago +8 / -0

Ho-hum. Just another clear data point that Big Pharma and the corrupt media will bury.

Great find and really hope those translations are accurate. Now how do I get this treatment for my family if one of us gets the virus? That's the problem most of our are facing.

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trumplandslide 7 points ago +7 / -0

Thanks for sharing!

We need to flood social media with this. This is the effective solution to help save lives, get our economy back and reelect President Trump!

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T-Bear 7 points ago +7 / -0

This treatment knocks out SARS-Cov-2 as efficiently and effectively as it did its cousin, SARS-Cov-1.

When one realizes SARS-Cov-1 was the dreaded ScarySuperVirus responsible for SARS, and that the treatment listed above not only cured the disease, but did so in such a decisive fashion it was deemed impractical to do vaccine research on this disease...one begins to understand the scope of why inaction is so very evil today. SARS-Cov-1 turned out not to be a ScarySuperBug, after all.

Fast forward almost 20 years. Doctors find out this Covid-19 is caused by SARS-Cov-2, a very near cousin to SARS-Cov-1. The same treatment works again.

There is no amount of "for the common good", "it has to be scientifically established before we give it", or "we need a vaccine for this" statements that settles right with me on this.

The willingness to play vain, petty, money-grubbing politics over this is just plain murder at this point.

If only the pedo-globalist Deep Staters had picked a better virus to do their dirty work for them...but they picked poorly. They picked an easily curable virus, and now want to brain-wash everyone into thinking it is the next ScarySuperBug that needs lots of money thrown at it in order to "cure" the disease...

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eagle123 2 points ago +2 / -0

This drug is likely effective for many viruses. Its mechanism allows the cells to receive more zinc, from which the virus is defeated naturally.

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salomaocohen 2 points ago +2 / -0

Brazilian physician here. While this protocol is true, it is only being applied in some hospitals. Our Ministry of Health (which is in the hands of a corrupt party here) has not yet wanted to apply it to all hospitals in Brazil, inexplicably.

Something rotten is going on.

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22xwing 1 point ago +1 / -0

Brazil is smarter than the US right now ... of course we have the dems and DS trying to destroy us