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posted ago by Farmerbob1 ago by Farmerbob1 +549 / -0

Think about it. Small colleges, scattered around the US that teach practical economics, business, accounting, science, math, actual history, and responsible journalism.

The administration and staff would have reversed policies for hiring, where school employees would have to believe in rational social policies.

If you think Socialism or Globalism makes sense, you can't be hired there. Even gay folks are fine, as long as they are capable of comprehending basic biology, and understand that if you are a gay man, you are still a biological male.

A lot of schools already exist like this, I know, but most of them that I am aware of have religious roots and faith expectations for the students. I would like to see conservative small colleges without ties to religion.

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45semiautosp 21 points ago +21 / -0

Just a neutral "Art History" class would be nice. It would have to be one that is not designed to instill hatred of everything about western civilization. A tall order, to be sure.

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dudeduderson 14 points ago +14 / -0

I remember in college I had a rabbid ant-male feminist who taught us that all women in the history of art were exploited.

I was like who the fuck is this lady and why is she so angry?

I just remember thinking fuck her. The two most beautiful and amazing things in existence are the stars/nebula/galaxies and women.

Immortalizing women in art to me is the highest of accolades... but noooo god damn Marxist feminist ideology has to make everything exploitation and shitty.

Man it must suck to live in that mentality all day, every day. Where everything is exploitation or a power struggle. Fucking psychopaths.

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45semiautosp 11 points ago +11 / -0

I hear you. I used to hate almost all art and the humanities because what I was seeing and what I was being told were conflicting, I blamed the arts. Now I know what I was being told was a lie. All civilizations are not equal, not all art is an appreciation of life, rap is not culturally equal to opera, etc.

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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 20 points ago +20 / -0

It's called trade school. We finish in two years, get a job, a wife, and a house, and if there's an apocalyptic pandemic we still show up to work because we r fucking essential.

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Farmerbob1 [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

Good point, but do a lot of trade schools teach journalism? That's one of the places where we really need some sanity and new rational minds.

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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 7 points ago +7 / -0

True to a point, but we pretty much have internet journalism and the podcast game on lock down. Traditional journalism is going the way of the dodo bird from simple lack of trust. Only thing keeping it afloat now is the baby boomer generation that still watches out of 70 years of ingrained habit. That demographic is going to begin rapidly shrinking pretty soon just from old age. I'm not rooting for anyone to die, I'm just merely pointing out that CNN and msdnc ratings are in the shitter now. In a decade they will be the new 8 track tapes. Tldr: MSM is fake and gay and everybody knows it. Once they run out of boomers to prey on they are screwed

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Farmerbob1 [S] 6 points ago +6 / -0

I would argue that mainstream journalism is failing because people are losing trust in it. There's really not that much difference between talking heads on a TV screen and on a smartphone screen.

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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 5 points ago +5 / -0

True, but the increased variety and lower cost of startup means you at least have a chance of finding a net based journo that hasn't sold their soul and eating infant jerky with John podesta

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Kolob 6 points ago +6 / -0

In the old days journalists were normal people who did not have degrees. My mom was old school and had a degree in something else. By chance she wound up working for a very tiny small town paper first and learning from and old newspaperman. She moved up to the state paper from which she was fired for asking questions they did not like. She continued to work as a stringer for many different publications, mostly business, almost to the day she died. She believed in being the watchdog of the community and broke some big stories including local medical malpractice. After quite a few years of covering Oregon politics it was all so dirty she could not stand it anymore. In recent years smaller publications like Willamette Week broke all the big stories. The Oregonian is as worthless as toilet paper.

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Farmerbob1 [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Oh, I would love to see more rational people enter journalism from other fields.

I think one way to do that would be to offer elective courses of responsible journalism. Your degree might not be in journalism, but you would have gotten your toes wet, and might follow up on it at a later point in life.

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Kolob 3 points ago +3 / -0

It is already happening with people like Joe Rogan just letting people talk and back their views. I vote for zero college courses as they are totally unnecessary. All that is needed is master of the three R's

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Johngalt 11 points ago +11 / -0

Hillsdale College

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neverreddit 3 points ago +3 / -0

Wooo hoooo 🥳🥳🥳

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r_u_srs_srsly 3 points ago +3 / -0

Liberty University

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AnEnigma2U 3 points ago +3 / -0

Exactly! Now let's clone it.

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Mrdarkshine 7 points ago +7 / -0

Liberal arts doesn't mean politically liberal, although they often are liberal. Liberal arts just means a broad education accross disciplines rather than a specialized major. They're using the word "liberal" to mean "free" (a la liberal democracy), rather than restricred to a particular subject.

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Farmerbob1 [S] 6 points ago +6 / -0

I understand this. I attended a liberal arts college. I suggested the 'conservative arts' college name as a way to designate schools that teach rational thought.

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Mintap 6 points ago +6 / -0

Hillsdale

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Geocav 5 points ago +7 / -2

Good luck with that because it would take a miracle...and you don't want religion tied to it...

" I would like to see conservative small colleges without ties to religion." No religion is a form of religion.

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Farmerbob1 [S] 2 points ago +5 / -3

I beg to disagree. Atheism is a form of religion because it can only be believed, not proven.

I am an agnostic. I have no religion, and will not believe in any sort of higher being unless it is proven to me in a way that cannot be disputed.

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123breadman 2 points ago +3 / -1

I would rather have an institution made up of Christians than one made up of valueless transvestites (our current college system).

Edit: also letting everyone know that you are Christian tends to offput the crazy left from wanting to join.

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Farmerbob1 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I tend to have issues with anyone putting restrictions or expectations on me, based on their interpretation of what some guys wrote a couple thousands of years ago. A lot of the moral teachings of the more benevolent religions make a great deal of sense, but I cannot follow a spiritual being that is unwilling or unable to prove it's own existence irrefutably to me, to my standards. If they are all powerful and all knowing, then proving their existence to me would be no effort at all.

As for the LGBTQRSTUVXYZ community, IMHO, you have the right to believe what you want, as long as it is between consenting adults.

Shrug I believe a core part of being conservative is minding your own business and letting other people live their lives.

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123breadman 2 points ago +2 / -0

The LGBT movement supports tranny reading hour, if you don't support that you are shunned by the left. All they do is expose your kids to that crap. Soon enough they will be broadcasting tranny shit to young children on tv. In case, you don't know they already do this in Hawaii with indoctrinating kids into believing they are trannies. There are whole ceremonies into making kids believe they are both man and woman, with nothing else to back it up other than liberals wanting to push an agenda. It really is all or nothing with that crowd considering that they keep adding letters whenever they feel like it.

I am just saying, to me God has proven he exists with the world that he has created. The beauty of the world is enough for me. To be able to enjoy life with those close to us. To cherish our lives with our families.

Those led astray with no moral foundation just end up as the left have. Religion is good for many people who struggle and don't have a figure to show them moral strength. For many Jesus is that figure.

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Farmerbob1 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I respect your faith. Sometimes I wish I could allow myself to believe in a deity, but I am incapable of believing in something without evidence.

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Farmerbob1 [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

Heh!

On a serious note, firearms training and concealed carry classes?

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Under25BMI 4 points ago +4 / -0

They're called Technical schools.

Where you go to be trained for an actual skill.

And only pay a small % of the "Lib-Arts" college but end up making more money than the Interpretive Dance major....

WINWIN

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Farmerbob1 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thing is, I respect the idea of a diverse education that does more than prepare someone for a specific job.

I won't knock technical schools, we need them, but I think we really do need schools that teach a broad range of topics too. Having a broad basic base of knowledge can be very useful in some professions. Military officers. Media workers. Journalists. Editors. Safety inspectors. Any job where you don't need the exact same skills and knowledge every day.

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Titan93 3 points ago +3 / -0

This sounds like a great place

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neverreddit 3 points ago +3 / -0
  1. Hillsdale college
  2. University of Dallas
  3. Thomas Aquinas
  4. The Institute of World Politics (grad school dc)
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not_a_shill 3 points ago +3 / -0

well the "liberal" in "liberal arts" wasnt meant to mean commie anti american fuck. Its supposed to mean non technical/non professional skills.

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Farmerbob1 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Understood. I attended one. The original meaning has been fairly heavily overshadowed by the modern reality though.

Branding a college as a 'Conservative Arts' college will help make that point, as well as making a distinction between the educational philosophy practiced at the school, and most Liberal Arts schools.

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not_a_shill 2 points ago +2 / -0

The left woudl scream it was a "whites only xenophobic college" Cus non white people cannot be conservative.

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Varangian 2 points ago +2 / -0

There’s always the “Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies”. Of course there are no degrees, because the learning never stops. But you’ll be able to debate liberal loons with half your brain tied behind your back, just to make it fair.

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r_u_srs_srsly 2 points ago +2 / -0

big issue is that most HR / Diversity / Inclusion officers are insanely liberal.

Not saying conservative schools offer the BEST education, but if you look at the shit lopped on from HR for graduates of Western Governors University, Liberty University, Hillsdale, etc, the graduates have a hard time getting employed because of the school on their resume.

Looking at these small liberal arts colleges that teach "history of fuck trump" courses somehow do not get the same shit from HR. Weird.

First and foremost, spending money on a degree should make you employable to a profession you desire.

Trade school is probably the best option. Almost certainly employable, no BS side curriculum.

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CptObvious- 2 points ago +2 / -0

This would be great. There are a couple places like this in my county, which is actually IN California. Theres only a few of us counties left and those schools are always under attack.

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Chick-fill-eh 2 points ago +4 / -2

Weird that you want some conservative values but not others.

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Farmerbob1 [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

Is it really that weird? Do you believe that religion is required for a person to have common sense?

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Smurfection 2 points ago +2 / -0

If the school has exams, there's going to be prayer in school.

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GoUSA 2 points ago +2 / -0

I could live with a few Patriots majoring in memes. Just a few, though.

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EndTheFed2 2 points ago +2 / -0

There are some, you just have to know where to look, and depending on the topic they mostly teach the important stuff quicker and far cheaper so it doesn't take years. Think more seminars or a month to two at a time. There are some related to real economics that I've heard of recently... there's the Ron Paul Institute I think? That might have links, there's also good stuff related to the Mises Institute(if you want to know about real economics). Lots of others, once you start looking you realize college is mostly an indoctrination scam and you can get the actual info you want way faster and cheaper.

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Scroon 1 point ago +2 / -1

So the crux of the problem is that conservatism eventually boils down to belief in a higher power in one way or another. And you can't just almost get to higher principles and still keep them. Unless you embrace the greater, you will inevitably fall to the baser.

The reason is because there must be some unwavering central principle guiding it all. If it's only "morality", morals can be argued. If it's "rationality", rationality can be used to disprove itself.

Those concepts may work for a while. (And they did.) But they are extremely weak to directed attacks. This is why the remaining conservative learning institutions are predominantly religious. Religion can't be swayed...at least not easily.

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Farmerbob1 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Religions tend to be very conservative because they have a great deal of institutional inertia.

They still change over time. My father was left handed and went to a Christian school. They smacked his left hand with a ruler whenever he tried to use it. I think most of us, even the religious folks, can agree today that the left hand is not the hand of Satan.

I think that there are two types of conservatives. Those that base their conservative nature on religion, and those that base their conservative nature on science and provable facts.

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Scroon 0 points ago +1 / -1

Those that base their conservative nature on religion, and those that base their conservative nature on science and provable facts.

That's a really good point. And I hopefully think you might be. But I do wonder if the "science and facts" part is good but still a weakness. It's why they set up people like Nye and Tyson. It gets the science conservatives who aren't the strictest of scientists.

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Farmerbob1 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Everything has weaknesses.

Science has the weakness that it is impossible to prove a negative, and there are still aspects of the Universe we do not yet fully understand.

Religion has the weakness that it is based on faith rather than hard facts.

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Scroon 1 point ago +2 / -1

True. Life's tricky. :)