Ok so I shared this with a friend today who asked - ok, but why are morgues in NYC still getting overrun?
At risk of sounding like a concern troll (god knows there’s plenty of them around here), I’m trying to find a logical explanation that can be given. Even if pneumonia deaths are being inappropriately categorized as COVID, deaths are still way up and stressing the bereavement industry.
I guess the question is...is it true the morgues are being overrun or are we just believing what the media says. The mortality rate of the planet(before covid-19) was 8 deaths per 1,000 per year. So in a city of 8.6m, that means about 64k New yorkers die per year, or about 5,333 per month. (Should note that deaths in the winter are about 20% higher than in the summer in the US so for a month like March you'd probably have about 6k to 6.3k deaths) NYC as of this writing has had 4700 covid deaths, but they've been claiming the morgues are being overrun since they had less than 1,000 deaths. It seems a bit fishy.
I just checked and there are only about 200 funeral homes in NYC. This would mean every home has an average of 1 body per day before the outbreak.
I'd call funeral homes to verify how many bodies are rolling in, but if this is a big worldwide conspiracy, I don't want to get put on a list and get "coronavirus'd" and then make the news with headlines that say "Conspiracy theorist who thinks coronavirus is a hoax, dies from coronavirus", just like they did with that lady in texas.
My suspicions are death certs are being slow walked, thereby creating the appearance of an overrun, that is really a backlog. Funeral rate could maintain the "normal" pace and still have the backlog.
My mom died from complications from covid (bad heart) 1 week ago Sat in NJ. Supposedly a hard hit area. There was ZERO delay getting her body to the funeral home and then getting her buried. The funeral home would have had a service for her (limited to ten people) but we decided no because there are so many old people in our family.
Ymmv but our experience is they are not over run at all from the morgue to the funeral home to the cemetery.
Aren't they not having funerals right now because of the no public gathering rules? What are they doing with the bodies? Are they just sitting there or are they just burying them with nobody around?
Some pede in NYC has to know a coroner or funeral home operator or someone with first hand knowledge.
Filmyourhospital on Twotter shows the ERs across the country are ghost towns
Look for videos that people are posting of other Hospitals in NY where there doesn't seem to be much going on. You would think they would spread patients out if its that big of deal.
The deaths in New York are most likely a cause isolate. This is a novel virus, we have no experience with it on an immuno level. It will kill people, it will kill seemingly healthy people without medical intervention. It will kill sick people even with medical intervention. The numbers of deaths were expected, and anticipated to be higher, because of this. What they are not saying is that a lot of these were not healthy people, even the younger ones. New York, like most major cities, experienced some awful shit in their air, especially around 19 years ago. With an aging population and air quality being factors, you will get these numbers, and be surprised when it doesn't go higher.
As for the backlog, most of these bodies are being held over for one simple reason, autopsies/the shutdown of the industry that normally clears them away.
Ok so I shared this with a friend today who asked - ok, but why are morgues in NYC still getting overrun?
At risk of sounding like a concern troll (god knows there’s plenty of them around here), I’m trying to find a logical explanation that can be given. Even if pneumonia deaths are being inappropriately categorized as COVID, deaths are still way up and stressing the bereavement industry.
I guess the question is...is it true the morgues are being overrun or are we just believing what the media says. The mortality rate of the planet(before covid-19) was 8 deaths per 1,000 per year. So in a city of 8.6m, that means about 64k New yorkers die per year, or about 5,333 per month. (Should note that deaths in the winter are about 20% higher than in the summer in the US so for a month like March you'd probably have about 6k to 6.3k deaths) NYC as of this writing has had 4700 covid deaths, but they've been claiming the morgues are being overrun since they had less than 1,000 deaths. It seems a bit fishy.
I just checked and there are only about 200 funeral homes in NYC. This would mean every home has an average of 1 body per day before the outbreak.
I'd call funeral homes to verify how many bodies are rolling in, but if this is a big worldwide conspiracy, I don't want to get put on a list and get "coronavirus'd" and then make the news with headlines that say "Conspiracy theorist who thinks coronavirus is a hoax, dies from coronavirus", just like they did with that lady in texas.
My suspicions are death certs are being slow walked, thereby creating the appearance of an overrun, that is really a backlog. Funeral rate could maintain the "normal" pace and still have the backlog.
My mom died from complications from covid (bad heart) 1 week ago Sat in NJ. Supposedly a hard hit area. There was ZERO delay getting her body to the funeral home and then getting her buried. The funeral home would have had a service for her (limited to ten people) but we decided no because there are so many old people in our family.
Ymmv but our experience is they are not over run at all from the morgue to the funeral home to the cemetery.
Aren't they not having funerals right now because of the no public gathering rules? What are they doing with the bodies? Are they just sitting there or are they just burying them with nobody around?
Some pede in NYC has to know a coroner or funeral home operator or someone with first hand knowledge. Filmyourhospital on Twotter shows the ERs across the country are ghost towns
Look for videos that people are posting of other Hospitals in NY where there doesn't seem to be much going on. You would think they would spread patients out if its that big of deal.
The deaths in New York are most likely a cause isolate. This is a novel virus, we have no experience with it on an immuno level. It will kill people, it will kill seemingly healthy people without medical intervention. It will kill sick people even with medical intervention. The numbers of deaths were expected, and anticipated to be higher, because of this. What they are not saying is that a lot of these were not healthy people, even the younger ones. New York, like most major cities, experienced some awful shit in their air, especially around 19 years ago. With an aging population and air quality being factors, you will get these numbers, and be surprised when it doesn't go higher.
As for the backlog, most of these bodies are being held over for one simple reason, autopsies/the shutdown of the industry that normally clears them away.
The bereavement industry is a joke. Watch some of this chicks tedx and other fun videos and you'll begin to understand.
http://www.caitlindoughty.com/