White voices for Trump are obviously present. I mean, without Whites, Trump would have received ZERO electoral votes.
The issue at hand is that Whites are specifically forbidden from advocating for the interests of their community and their children in the same way that other groups are.
We aren't forbidden, but the unfortunate reality is that we have to deal with the fallout caused by people who abused the platform.
The swastika was a holy symbol in the Far East for centuries. Do you think people are able to still use it post Nazi Germany? Does anyone dare wear a Charlie Chaplin mustache since Hitler?
If you want to advocate for the interests of the white community, you just have to do it without invoking the abuse of the past. No, you can't wear white hoods and burn crosses.
As far as double standards go, consider that the Black Panther Party was dissolved in 1982. If someone were to resurrect it and try to call themselves Black Panthers today, I honestly believe that society as a whole would consider that just as unacceptable.
Oh, ok, I have to accept open discrimination against my children in education and the job market because of the Nazis.
That makes perfect sense. Really a novel angle you're pushing.
Hmmm, wait, I HAVE heard this argument before. It's the same one the left uses when they want to promote the invasion of our nation by millions of foreigners.
Oh, are your kids Asian? Because Asians are actually the ones most likely to be rejected from prestigious universities due to quotas.
You have a serious problem with conflating issues. In one post you talk about "advocating for the interests of a community" and then in the next post you jump to discussing affirmative action in higher education admissions or the job market.
Completely different topics. If you insist on putting words in my mouth then you can go ahead and continue my side of the conversation for me and spare me the notification bells, thanks.
That's because he has no leg to stand on. You're being reasonable in the circumstance we just happen to be in. Hes being unreasonable to the point of potentially driving voters out. Keep up the hard work pede. Theres a lot of them out there.
You make good points but there are a couple things I still disagree with.
Beyonce was definitely criticized for that performance, however, you are right to point out that the overwhelming majority of black voices called it justified in order to bring attention to the Black Lives Matters movement. That does seem hypocritical, so I stand corrected regarding "society as a whole".
Black Panther the comic was written in 1966 so I don't think you can really consider a movie by the same name based on that source material a revival.
The guy I was replying to was talking about "children" in the context of racial identity. Being proud of your own white identity is one thing, being proud of having white kids is an obvious dog whistle to "racial purity" and "heritage" proponents.
"It's OK to be white" was a brilliant campaign because it showed how the left invents their own offenses. It was the left that equated "It's OK to be white" to be synonymous with "White Power". That was the genius of it. Exposing the delusion.
But surely you can agree that if people had just gone around printing up signs that literally said "White Power" that would have been an entirely different thing.
That's completely retarded and divorced from reality. Hillary got 90% of all minority and legal immigrant votes, dude. She got THIRTY percent of the white vote.
Trump got SEVENTY percent of the white vote.
If whites hadn't voted, Hillary would have won EVERY SINGLE ELECTORAL VOTE.
This! and also all whites aren't the same color. Italian whites, Greek whites, Hispanic whites, most of us are not lily white and have slightly darker features. Only in America do we get rejected by other caucasians for "not being white enough"
Seriously, try being Greek or Italian or white Hispanic , going on dating websites, and trying to date caucasian women, plenty will reject you for not being white.
A certain fraction of our movement just wants the ability to be racist even though our Don isn't racist AT all.
Melania is white...she's darker skinned than a lot of Mexicans..skin color racism is outdated and stupid. Plenty of dumb liberal white people make fun of Melania's accent and her skin color...racism and xenophobia need to die
No because they arent the people were trying to convince. And if we have select minority group on our side then the Democrats favorite weapon cant be used against us. "Racist." Dont be so obtuse. We get it, it's unfair for white people, it's just the circumstance were in now because of leftists especially leftist academics. If you want to make a change become a teacher or a professor at a university.
It’s not though. People from parts of the country and different communities have their own unique problems. We need to address them as such so that we may make life better for them, not in a way that undermines their American identity, but in a way that affirms it.
I think it's important. I've been talking to lots of black people lately. Most still hate Trump. In fact I really haven't run into any that don't hate him. It's bizarre to me, because he is doing a great job or ALL Americans, and probably more for blacks than any other president has, but it doesn't seem he's gaining traction from the ordinary black population. I really don't understand why. He absolutely has to gain from the 8% or whatever that voted for him last time. Maybe he only needs to get to 9 or 10% but I'd much prefer he get 15 or 20, if not 51%.
What you're saying sounds just like what the dems are doing; we need their vote so whatever!
No. Each community face their own struggles. It's important that people from those very communities address their people and issues. Outsiders can have a hard time empathizing and connecting. So yes, we need to reach out and build bridges with all communities, and the best people to do it are the people from those very communities
That's what Trump brought, a new approach, a new way. It's why he won. He bucked trend and refused to budge. He fights for The People. ALL people. That's his message and backs it up every day. That's why he's able to bring in people from all walks of life. That's why the #walkaway movement is growing. We should want and embrace that. That's the future of the party. Otherwise we're back at it 2024.
I think this is a great thing. The media won't cover the things that Trump has done to help the black community. Giving them a hand up not a handout. I am grateful to the like-minded people that see past color and look at the person. The black democrat voting block is crumbling day by day. They are seeing through the decades of lies. I think it is sad that when a black person thinks differently than the democrat herd they are called racial epithets. Just because they have a different opinion. We more than anyone should know what that is like to have a different opinion. We are called racist, sexist, xenophobic, etc. Support those that see the light, no matter their race, sex, sexual orientation, or religion. Fuck the Dems!
I saw this as an "upcoming" on YouTube earlier today, been looking forward to it. I'm probably the whitest dude on the planet in the whitest spot in the country, so it will be interesting to hear a different perspective on how best to MAGA. Want to end identity politics? Find out what we all have in common, instead of doing like Democrats and focusing on what we don't.
I vote we support any and all Pro-Trump specialized messages. It's like ice cream, Pedes. Different flavors appeal to different people.
We all love Trump Ice Cream, but that doesn't mean we only should only carry it in vanilla.
Oh really?
Would a White voices for Trump ever get stickied?
It's the fact that Black voices for Trump are rare that makes them noteworthy.
From a demographic perspective, virtually every sticky is already a white voice for Trump.
White voices for Trump are obviously present. I mean, without Whites, Trump would have received ZERO electoral votes.
The issue at hand is that Whites are specifically forbidden from advocating for the interests of their community and their children in the same way that other groups are.
Do you defend this double standard?
the interests of the white community are different than those of the black community because there is no one unified white culture
Jews, Italians, Spanish, Germans, Brits, etc all have massively different cultures, foods, religions, appearances, etc
One of the reasons t_d got compromised is because it was brigaded by the altright
We aren't forbidden, but the unfortunate reality is that we have to deal with the fallout caused by people who abused the platform.
The swastika was a holy symbol in the Far East for centuries. Do you think people are able to still use it post Nazi Germany? Does anyone dare wear a Charlie Chaplin mustache since Hitler?
If you want to advocate for the interests of the white community, you just have to do it without invoking the abuse of the past. No, you can't wear white hoods and burn crosses.
As far as double standards go, consider that the Black Panther Party was dissolved in 1982. If someone were to resurrect it and try to call themselves Black Panthers today, I honestly believe that society as a whole would consider that just as unacceptable.
Oh, ok, I have to accept open discrimination against my children in education and the job market because of the Nazis.
That makes perfect sense. Really a novel angle you're pushing.
Hmmm, wait, I HAVE heard this argument before. It's the same one the left uses when they want to promote the invasion of our nation by millions of foreigners.
Oh, are your kids Asian? Because Asians are actually the ones most likely to be rejected from prestigious universities due to quotas.
You have a serious problem with conflating issues. In one post you talk about "advocating for the interests of a community" and then in the next post you jump to discussing affirmative action in higher education admissions or the job market.
Completely different topics. If you insist on putting words in my mouth then you can go ahead and continue my side of the conversation for me and spare me the notification bells, thanks.
Don't waste your time on these types, drive them out so they can rot out on stormfront. We don't judge by color, we judge by characters. MAGA
That's because he has no leg to stand on. You're being reasonable in the circumstance we just happen to be in. Hes being unreasonable to the point of potentially driving voters out. Keep up the hard work pede. Theres a lot of them out there.
You make good points but there are a couple things I still disagree with.
Beyonce was definitely criticized for that performance, however, you are right to point out that the overwhelming majority of black voices called it justified in order to bring attention to the Black Lives Matters movement. That does seem hypocritical, so I stand corrected regarding "society as a whole".
Black Panther the comic was written in 1966 so I don't think you can really consider a movie by the same name based on that source material a revival.
The guy I was replying to was talking about "children" in the context of racial identity. Being proud of your own white identity is one thing, being proud of having white kids is an obvious dog whistle to "racial purity" and "heritage" proponents.
"It's OK to be white" was a brilliant campaign because it showed how the left invents their own offenses. It was the left that equated "It's OK to be white" to be synonymous with "White Power". That was the genius of it. Exposing the delusion.
But surely you can agree that if people had just gone around printing up signs that literally said "White Power" that would have been an entirely different thing.
What?
If Whites had abstained from voting in the 2016 general election, Hillary would have received ALL of the electoral votes.
90% of all minorities and legal immigrants voted for Hillary, dude.
That's completely retarded and divorced from reality. Hillary got 90% of all minority and legal immigrant votes, dude. She got THIRTY percent of the white vote.
Trump got SEVENTY percent of the white vote.
If whites hadn't voted, Hillary would have won EVERY SINGLE ELECTORAL VOTE.
This! and also all whites aren't the same color. Italian whites, Greek whites, Hispanic whites, most of us are not lily white and have slightly darker features. Only in America do we get rejected by other caucasians for "not being white enough"
Seriously, try being Greek or Italian or white Hispanic , going on dating websites, and trying to date caucasian women, plenty will reject you for not being white.
A certain fraction of our movement just wants the ability to be racist even though our Don isn't racist AT all.
Melania is white...she's darker skinned than a lot of Mexicans..skin color racism is outdated and stupid. Plenty of dumb liberal white people make fun of Melania's accent and her skin color...racism and xenophobia need to die
They keep erasing the black conservative guests Trump invites constantly.
If you have a chance, check out Diamond and Silk. They know their politics, and call out bull, sometimes before anyone notices it.
I know who Diamond and Silk are. Their tweets made front page on T_D Reddit many times, I don't see why they would be erased.
No because they arent the people were trying to convince. And if we have select minority group on our side then the Democrats favorite weapon cant be used against us. "Racist." Dont be so obtuse. We get it, it's unfair for white people, it's just the circumstance were in now because of leftists especially leftist academics. If you want to make a change become a teacher or a professor at a university.
How many scoops?
Right so many know-it all’s right now.
Maybe the President and his team know what they are doing.
Absolutely.
Well put.
Fuck identity politics.
It’s not though. People from parts of the country and different communities have their own unique problems. We need to address them as such so that we may make life better for them, not in a way that undermines their American identity, but in a way that affirms it.
I think it's important. I've been talking to lots of black people lately. Most still hate Trump. In fact I really haven't run into any that don't hate him. It's bizarre to me, because he is doing a great job or ALL Americans, and probably more for blacks than any other president has, but it doesn't seem he's gaining traction from the ordinary black population. I really don't understand why. He absolutely has to gain from the 8% or whatever that voted for him last time. Maybe he only needs to get to 9 or 10% but I'd much prefer he get 15 or 20, if not 51%.
Not really the same. Too many black people think they can't support Trump because they're black.
Its a necessary recruiting tool.
Some people probably agree with you, but I don’t. I prefer to let the promoted ideals do the recruiting.
I see you are a fan of losing. Perhaps you could campaign for Romney.
Yeah, I dunno. Seems kind of Democratishy. We're the Party of America, not of demographics...If this lures more black voters, great, but I just dunno.
What you're saying sounds just like what the dems are doing; we need their vote so whatever!
No. Each community face their own struggles. It's important that people from those very communities address their people and issues. Outsiders can have a hard time empathizing and connecting. So yes, we need to reach out and build bridges with all communities, and the best people to do it are the people from those very communities
Smart response!
That's what Trump brought, a new approach, a new way. It's why he won. He bucked trend and refused to budge. He fights for The People. ALL people. That's his message and backs it up every day. That's why he's able to bring in people from all walks of life. That's why the #walkaway movement is growing. We should want and embrace that. That's the future of the party. Otherwise we're back at it 2024.
I think this is a great thing. The media won't cover the things that Trump has done to help the black community. Giving them a hand up not a handout. I am grateful to the like-minded people that see past color and look at the person. The black democrat voting block is crumbling day by day. They are seeing through the decades of lies. I think it is sad that when a black person thinks differently than the democrat herd they are called racial epithets. Just because they have a different opinion. We more than anyone should know what that is like to have a different opinion. We are called racist, sexist, xenophobic, etc. Support those that see the light, no matter their race, sex, sexual orientation, or religion. Fuck the Dems!
Can you imagine if there was something called "White voices for Trump", the reee would be heard on the next planet over.
I saw this as an "upcoming" on YouTube earlier today, been looking forward to it. I'm probably the whitest dude on the planet in the whitest spot in the country, so it will be interesting to hear a different perspective on how best to MAGA. Want to end identity politics? Find out what we all have in common, instead of doing like Democrats and focusing on what we don't.
450 of them self hating Whites who would never stand up for their own people in the same way.
I hear you man.
That’s dumb man.
I was at work so i set a reminder. No notification. Im sure that happened to lots of us. Just a coinky dink, right youtube?
And yet they'll still vote 90% Dem for life.
Trump needs to target black voters. It’s the DNCs only chance.