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Yes, and to add to this, generally they mutate to become less deadly to their hosts due to natural selection. If the strain kills its host, then chances are that strain will not spread as much whereas if the host is walking around with a mild caught, then it will spread much much more. Evolution my friends.
A) what test did they use? Feline AIDS is a Coronavirus that cats get. If l understand correctly, some of the COVIN-19 test is a generic Coronavirus tests. That doesn't mean the cats have COVIN-19 specifically.
B) How were they exposed? Only employees should have that access to the big cats. If it is COVIN-19, then the zoo employees should have it for transfer.
C) If this is a pandemic, why waste critical test Zoo animals? Fix the people first.
Watching Zoo shows on TV they keep most of the wild animals contained to keep out diseases. The domesticated on we can always inject with fixer uppers.
BTW. Look back at my posts, always claimed it was a bioengineered virus. But I'm not a conspirator.
ONLY 8 strands?!? That's just a virus being a virus. I'm surprised there isnt more. 20 is usually average. When Trump comes out and says it's a bioweapon (and believe me he will if it was), then I'll agree. If it was a bioweapon Trump will most likely give an address to the American people once the virus is under control and the election is over.
It is pretty unbelievable that tigers are a hot trending topic due to that popular documentary and then they just happen to start testing tigers and one is positive for covid1984.
Harvard University Professor and Two Chinese Nationals Charged in Three Separate China Related Cases
BOSTON – The U.S. Attorney’s Office announced today that the Chair of Harvard University’s Chemistry and Chemical Biology Department and two Chinese nationals have been charged in connection with aiding the People’s Republic of China.
Dr. Charles Lieber, 60, Chair of the Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology at Harvard University, was arrested this morning and charged by criminal complaint with one count of making a materially false, fictitious and fraudulent statement. Lieber will appear this afternoon before Magistrate Judge Marianne B. Bowler in federal court in Boston.
Yanqing Ye, 29, a Chinese national, was charged in an indictment today with one count each of visa fraud, making false statements, acting as an agent of a foreign government and conspiracy. Ye is currently in China.
Zaosong Zheng, 30, a Chinese national, was arrested on Dec. 10, 2019, at Boston’s Logan International Airport and charged by criminal complaint with attempting to smuggle 21 vials of biological research to China. On Jan. 21, 2020, Zheng was indicted on one count of smuggling goods from the United States and one count of making false, fictitious or fraudulent statements. He has been detained since Dec. 30, 2019.
According to court documents, since 2008, Dr. Lieber who has served as the Principal Investigator of the Lieber Research Group at Harvard University, which specialized in the area of nanoscience, has received more than $15,000,000 in grant funding from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Department of Defense (DOD). These grants require the disclosure of significant foreign financial conflicts of interest, including financial support from foreign governments or foreign entities. Unbeknownst to Harvard University, beginning in 2011, Lieber became a “Strategic Scientist” at Wuhan University of Technology (WUT) in China and was a contractual participant in China’s Thousand Talents Plan from in or about 2012 to 2017. China’s Thousand Talents Plan is one of the most prominent Chinese Talent recruitment plans that are designed to attract, recruit, and cultivate high-level scientific talent in furtherance of China’s scientific development, economic prosperity and national security. These talent programs seek to lure Chinese overseas talent and foreign experts to bring their knowledge and experience to China and reward individuals for stealing proprietary information. Under the terms of Lieber’s three-year Thousand Talents contract, WUT paid Lieber $50,000 USD per month, living expenses of up to 1,000,000 Chinese Yuan (approximately $158,000 USD at the time) and awarded him more than $1.5 million to establish a research lab at WUT. In return, Lieber was obligated to work for WUT “not less than nine months a year” by “declaring international cooperation projects, cultivating young teachers and Ph.D. students, organizing international conference[s], applying for patents and publishing articles in the name of” WUT.
The complaint alleges that in 2018 and 2019, Lieber lied about his involvement in the Thousand Talents Plan and affiliation with WUT. On or about, April 24, 2018, during an interview with investigators, Lieber stated that he was never asked to participate in the Thousand Talents Program, but he “wasn’t sure” how China categorized him. In November 2018, NIH inquired of Harvard whether Lieber had failed to disclose his then-suspected relationship with WUT and China’s Thousand Talents Plan. Lieber caused Harvard to falsely tell NIH that Lieber “had no formal association with WUT” after 2012, that “WUT continued to falsely exaggerate” his involvement with WUT in subsequent years, and that Lieber “is not and has never been a participant in” China’s Thousand Talents Plan.
Yanqing Ye
According to the indictment, Ye is a Lieutenant of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), the armed forces of the People’s Republic of China and member of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). On her J-1 visa application, Ye falsely identified herself as a “student” and lied about her ongoing military service at the National University of Defense Technology (NUDT), a top military academy directed by the CCP. It is further alleged that while studying at Boston University’s (BU) Department of Physics, Chemistry and Biomedical Engineering from October 2017 to April 2019, Ye continued to work as a PLA Lieutenant completing numerous assignments from PLA officers such as conducting research, assessing U.S. military websites and sending U.S. documents and information to China.
According to court documents, on April 20, 2019, federal officers interviewed Ye at Boston’s Logan International Airport. During the interview, it is alleged that Ye falsely claimed that she had minimal contact with two NUDT professors who were high-ranking PLA officers. However, a search of Ye’s electronic devices demonstrated that at the direction of one NUDT professor, who was a PLA Colonel, Ye had accessed U.S. military websites, researched U.S. military projects and compiled information for the PLA on two U.S. scientists with expertise in robotics and computer science. Furthermore, a review of a WeChat conversation revealed that Ye and the other PLA official from NUDT were collaborating on a research paper about a risk assessment model designed to decipher data for military applications. During the interview, Ye admitted that she held the rank of Lieutenant in the PLA and admitted she was a member of the CCP.
Zaosong Zheng
In August 2018, Zheng entered the United States on a J-1 visa and conducted cancer-cell research at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston from Sept. 4, 2018, to Dec. 9, 2019. It is alleged that on Dec. 9, 2019, Zheng stole 21 vials of biological research and attempted to smuggle them out of the United States aboard a flight destined for China. Federal officers at Logan Airport discovered the vials hidden in a sock inside one of Zheng’s bags, and not properly packaged. It is alleged that initially, Zheng lied to officers about the contents of his luggage, but later admitted he had stolen the vials from a lab at Beth Israel. Zheng stated that he intended to bring the vials to China to use them to conduct research in his own laboratory and publish the results under his own name.
The charge of making false, fictitious and fraudulent statements provides for a sentence of up to five years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of visa fraud provides for a sentence of up to 10years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of acting as an agent of a foreign government provides for a sentence of up to 10 years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of conspiracy provides for a sentence of up to five years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of smuggling goods from the United States provides for a sentence of up to 10 years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. Sentences are imposed by a federal district court judge based upon the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and other statutory factors.
United States Attorney Andrew E. Lelling; John C. Demers, Assistant Attorney General for National Security; Joseph R. Bonavolonta, Special Agent in Charge of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Boston Field Division; Michael Denning, Director of Field Operations, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, Boston Field Office; Leigh-Alistair Barzey, Special Agent in Charge of the Defense Criminal Investigative Service, Northeast Field Office; Philip Coyne, Special Agent in Charge of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Office of Inspector General; and William Higgins, Special Agent in Charge of the U.S. Department of Commerce, Office of Export Enforcement, Boston Field Office made the announcement today. Assistant U.S. Attorneys B. Stephanie Siegmann, Jason Casey and Benjamin Tolkoff of Lelling’s National Security Unit are prosecuting these cases with the assistance of Trial Attorneys William Mackie and Davie Aaron of the National Security Division’s Counterintelligence and Export Control Section.
These case are part of the Department of Justice’s China Initiative, which reflects the strategic priority of countering Chinese national security threats and reinforces the President’s overall national security strategy. In addition to identifying and prosecuting those engaged in trade secret theft, hacking and economic espionage, the initiative will increase efforts to protect our critical infrastructure against external threats including foreign direct investment, supply chain threats and the foreign agents seeking to influence the American public and policymakers without proper registration.
The details contained in the charging documents are allegations. The defendants are presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law.
We know that crimes were committed and will continue to but that doesn't mean this was a bioweapon. Part of me thinks it probably is but there is simply no evidence of that. Keep in mind too that some thing covid-19 was around as early as November which, if true, blows your whole theory out of the water, at least in terms of this article.
Lieber was doing this for years previous to November 17th, 2019. It's in the text. The vials being stolen in Dec were just one batch of many. I believe this has been going on for years, according to the text of the indictment.
Also, my post is not from a news article, it's a news release from the DOJ for the indictment against Lieber and Chinese nationals. You can look it up.
I could be wrong but circumstantial evidence is everywhere. But, I'll say it again, I may very well be wrong.
The fact that it has mutated isn't an indication that it's a bioweapon. It reportedly mutates slow for a coronavirus. Which is actually more indicative of a bioweapon to me. If it was fast mutating then the less deadly strains would spread faster as the host doesn't die. Then you'd build up immunity to the more deadly strains and this would turn into just another cold. If you want a virus that kills people in a widespread manner you don't want it to mutate too quickly.
Probably is a bio weapon. Too many coincidences. The Harvard chair of chemistry arrest with foreign Chinese nationals posing as students while working with Wuhan bio lab is insane
First, it did not say intentionally, second, you have absolutely no proof of this. Stop pedaling unfounded information by taking giant leaps and assumptions without evidence.
PS. They research it to understand it better, so that they can find vaccines and cures.
From the same article
'Research so far suggests that the virus mutates especially slow – around eight times slower than influenza – and more in line with its viral sibling SARS.'
The CCP really screwed the pooch. They took the influenza virus and engineered it to be an airborne contagion. Now it's super contagious. What's more, every crackpot country that has an axe to grind, now has a sample of the virus they can use as a platform to build on. Thanks CCP.
Viruses mutate. That is why there is no HIV vaccine, and a different flu vaccine every year.
Yes, and to add to this, generally they mutate to become less deadly to their hosts due to natural selection. If the strain kills its host, then chances are that strain will not spread as much whereas if the host is walking around with a mild caught, then it will spread much much more. Evolution my friends.
This is correct. The amount of misinformation on this board is astounding to me. I don’t remember T_D being this bad, not sure what’s different.
Not sure if shill or dickhead personality disorder, but 60% (or so) of your comments are arguments or concerns.
The flu virus is much more prone to mutation than CV.
CoV-SARS-2 is a much more stable, single stranded RNA.
I recommend the online Columbia Virology course available on YouTube if you'd like to understand viruses more fully.
A) what test did they use? Feline AIDS is a Coronavirus that cats get. If l understand correctly, some of the COVIN-19 test is a generic Coronavirus tests. That doesn't mean the cats have COVIN-19 specifically.
B) How were they exposed? Only employees should have that access to the big cats. If it is COVIN-19, then the zoo employees should have it for transfer.
C) If this is a pandemic, why waste critical test Zoo animals? Fix the people first.
Watching Zoo shows on TV they keep most of the wild animals contained to keep out diseases. The domesticated on we can always inject with fixer uppers.
BTW. Look back at my posts, always claimed it was a bioengineered virus. But I'm not a conspirator.
The payload of 3 Ohio class SSBNs ought to be a sufficient retaliatory response.
ONLY 8 strands?!? That's just a virus being a virus. I'm surprised there isnt more. 20 is usually average. When Trump comes out and says it's a bioweapon (and believe me he will if it was), then I'll agree. If it was a bioweapon Trump will most likely give an address to the American people once the virus is under control and the election is over.
It is pretty unbelievable that tigers are a hot trending topic due to that popular documentary and then they just happen to start testing tigers and one is positive for covid1984.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Tuesday, January 28, 2020
Harvard University Professor and Two Chinese Nationals Charged in Three Separate China Related Cases
BOSTON – The U.S. Attorney’s Office announced today that the Chair of Harvard University’s Chemistry and Chemical Biology Department and two Chinese nationals have been charged in connection with aiding the People’s Republic of China.
Dr. Charles Lieber, 60, Chair of the Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology at Harvard University, was arrested this morning and charged by criminal complaint with one count of making a materially false, fictitious and fraudulent statement. Lieber will appear this afternoon before Magistrate Judge Marianne B. Bowler in federal court in Boston.
Yanqing Ye, 29, a Chinese national, was charged in an indictment today with one count each of visa fraud, making false statements, acting as an agent of a foreign government and conspiracy. Ye is currently in China.
Zaosong Zheng, 30, a Chinese national, was arrested on Dec. 10, 2019, at Boston’s Logan International Airport and charged by criminal complaint with attempting to smuggle 21 vials of biological research to China. On Jan. 21, 2020, Zheng was indicted on one count of smuggling goods from the United States and one count of making false, fictitious or fraudulent statements. He has been detained since Dec. 30, 2019.
According to court documents, since 2008, Dr. Lieber who has served as the Principal Investigator of the Lieber Research Group at Harvard University, which specialized in the area of nanoscience, has received more than $15,000,000 in grant funding from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Department of Defense (DOD). These grants require the disclosure of significant foreign financial conflicts of interest, including financial support from foreign governments or foreign entities. Unbeknownst to Harvard University, beginning in 2011, Lieber became a “Strategic Scientist” at Wuhan University of Technology (WUT) in China and was a contractual participant in China’s Thousand Talents Plan from in or about 2012 to 2017. China’s Thousand Talents Plan is one of the most prominent Chinese Talent recruitment plans that are designed to attract, recruit, and cultivate high-level scientific talent in furtherance of China’s scientific development, economic prosperity and national security. These talent programs seek to lure Chinese overseas talent and foreign experts to bring their knowledge and experience to China and reward individuals for stealing proprietary information. Under the terms of Lieber’s three-year Thousand Talents contract, WUT paid Lieber $50,000 USD per month, living expenses of up to 1,000,000 Chinese Yuan (approximately $158,000 USD at the time) and awarded him more than $1.5 million to establish a research lab at WUT. In return, Lieber was obligated to work for WUT “not less than nine months a year” by “declaring international cooperation projects, cultivating young teachers and Ph.D. students, organizing international conference[s], applying for patents and publishing articles in the name of” WUT.
The complaint alleges that in 2018 and 2019, Lieber lied about his involvement in the Thousand Talents Plan and affiliation with WUT. On or about, April 24, 2018, during an interview with investigators, Lieber stated that he was never asked to participate in the Thousand Talents Program, but he “wasn’t sure” how China categorized him. In November 2018, NIH inquired of Harvard whether Lieber had failed to disclose his then-suspected relationship with WUT and China’s Thousand Talents Plan. Lieber caused Harvard to falsely tell NIH that Lieber “had no formal association with WUT” after 2012, that “WUT continued to falsely exaggerate” his involvement with WUT in subsequent years, and that Lieber “is not and has never been a participant in” China’s Thousand Talents Plan.
Yanqing Ye
According to the indictment, Ye is a Lieutenant of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), the armed forces of the People’s Republic of China and member of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). On her J-1 visa application, Ye falsely identified herself as a “student” and lied about her ongoing military service at the National University of Defense Technology (NUDT), a top military academy directed by the CCP. It is further alleged that while studying at Boston University’s (BU) Department of Physics, Chemistry and Biomedical Engineering from October 2017 to April 2019, Ye continued to work as a PLA Lieutenant completing numerous assignments from PLA officers such as conducting research, assessing U.S. military websites and sending U.S. documents and information to China.
According to court documents, on April 20, 2019, federal officers interviewed Ye at Boston’s Logan International Airport. During the interview, it is alleged that Ye falsely claimed that she had minimal contact with two NUDT professors who were high-ranking PLA officers. However, a search of Ye’s electronic devices demonstrated that at the direction of one NUDT professor, who was a PLA Colonel, Ye had accessed U.S. military websites, researched U.S. military projects and compiled information for the PLA on two U.S. scientists with expertise in robotics and computer science. Furthermore, a review of a WeChat conversation revealed that Ye and the other PLA official from NUDT were collaborating on a research paper about a risk assessment model designed to decipher data for military applications. During the interview, Ye admitted that she held the rank of Lieutenant in the PLA and admitted she was a member of the CCP.
Zaosong Zheng
In August 2018, Zheng entered the United States on a J-1 visa and conducted cancer-cell research at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston from Sept. 4, 2018, to Dec. 9, 2019. It is alleged that on Dec. 9, 2019, Zheng stole 21 vials of biological research and attempted to smuggle them out of the United States aboard a flight destined for China. Federal officers at Logan Airport discovered the vials hidden in a sock inside one of Zheng’s bags, and not properly packaged. It is alleged that initially, Zheng lied to officers about the contents of his luggage, but later admitted he had stolen the vials from a lab at Beth Israel. Zheng stated that he intended to bring the vials to China to use them to conduct research in his own laboratory and publish the results under his own name.
The charge of making false, fictitious and fraudulent statements provides for a sentence of up to five years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of visa fraud provides for a sentence of up to 10years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of acting as an agent of a foreign government provides for a sentence of up to 10 years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of conspiracy provides for a sentence of up to five years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of smuggling goods from the United States provides for a sentence of up to 10 years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. Sentences are imposed by a federal district court judge based upon the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and other statutory factors.
United States Attorney Andrew E. Lelling; John C. Demers, Assistant Attorney General for National Security; Joseph R. Bonavolonta, Special Agent in Charge of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Boston Field Division; Michael Denning, Director of Field Operations, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, Boston Field Office; Leigh-Alistair Barzey, Special Agent in Charge of the Defense Criminal Investigative Service, Northeast Field Office; Philip Coyne, Special Agent in Charge of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Office of Inspector General; and William Higgins, Special Agent in Charge of the U.S. Department of Commerce, Office of Export Enforcement, Boston Field Office made the announcement today. Assistant U.S. Attorneys B. Stephanie Siegmann, Jason Casey and Benjamin Tolkoff of Lelling’s National Security Unit are prosecuting these cases with the assistance of Trial Attorneys William Mackie and Davie Aaron of the National Security Division’s Counterintelligence and Export Control Section.
These case are part of the Department of Justice’s China Initiative, which reflects the strategic priority of countering Chinese national security threats and reinforces the President’s overall national security strategy. In addition to identifying and prosecuting those engaged in trade secret theft, hacking and economic espionage, the initiative will increase efforts to protect our critical infrastructure against external threats including foreign direct investment, supply chain threats and the foreign agents seeking to influence the American public and policymakers without proper registration.
The details contained in the charging documents are allegations. The defendants are presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law.
We know that crimes were committed and will continue to but that doesn't mean this was a bioweapon. Part of me thinks it probably is but there is simply no evidence of that. Keep in mind too that some thing covid-19 was around as early as November which, if true, blows your whole theory out of the water, at least in terms of this article.
Lieber was doing this for years previous to November 17th, 2019. It's in the text. The vials being stolen in Dec were just one batch of many. I believe this has been going on for years, according to the text of the indictment.
Also, my post is not from a news article, it's a news release from the DOJ for the indictment against Lieber and Chinese nationals. You can look it up.
I could be wrong but circumstantial evidence is everywhere. But, I'll say it again, I may very well be wrong.
God Bless
The fact that it has mutated isn't an indication that it's a bioweapon. It reportedly mutates slow for a coronavirus. Which is actually more indicative of a bioweapon to me. If it was fast mutating then the less deadly strains would spread faster as the host doesn't die. Then you'd build up immunity to the more deadly strains and this would turn into just another cold. If you want a virus that kills people in a widespread manner you don't want it to mutate too quickly.
Probably is a bio weapon. Too many coincidences. The Harvard chair of chemistry arrest with foreign Chinese nationals posing as students while working with Wuhan bio lab is insane
That doesn’t mean it’s a bio weapon dude
First, it did not say intentionally, second, you have absolutely no proof of this. Stop pedaling unfounded information by taking giant leaps and assumptions without evidence.
PS. They research it to understand it better, so that they can find vaccines and cures.
From the same article 'Research so far suggests that the virus mutates especially slow – around eight times slower than influenza – and more in line with its viral sibling SARS.'
The CCP really screwed the pooch. They took the influenza virus and engineered it to be an airborne contagion. Now it's super contagious. What's more, every crackpot country that has an axe to grind, now has a sample of the virus they can use as a platform to build on. Thanks CCP.
It's literally a CV genome. Completely different than flu.